View Full Version : Stopping in the walkways...
davidtav
08-08-2004, 12:10 AM
One of my frustrations with guests:
Guests are walking on any of the major walkways - where hundreds of people are in front of them - AND behind them. Then they suddenly STOP in the middle of the walkway to look at a map, talk on the phone, look at something or fidget with the kids.
WHY!!!??! Are these the same people who stop in the middle of the freeway?! Why don't they just "pull over" to the side of the walkway and not conjest the traffice behind them!?
My satisfaction only comes when I'm in the park as a guest, and someone does this right in front of me - the moment i notice that they've stopped right in front of me, I turn my head as if I'm looking at something, then I TRIP or run right into them... he he he...
that's why my walkway speal goes something like this : "please keep moving, if you are not moving, please start moving, please keep moving, moving moving moving...
lady ulrike
08-08-2004, 06:17 AM
I know what you mean, I think it's my biggest pet peeve, even worse than not knowing how many are in the group. Luckily I've always been really good at manuvering in large crowds. I can usually see them stop and veer around them. I can just see some guest going to City Hall and complaining because I ran into them. :x
Grumpy
08-08-2004, 08:28 AM
I have actually said (when I had to do parade GC for POTS):
"Keep walking folks, this is a walkway. Yes, that means one foot in front of the other. . . "
SRT_GB
08-08-2004, 08:18 PM
This gets really bad at the tunnel next to the Stroller Shop around 9:45pm, aka the Fantasmic/fireworks blowoff. People will stop in the middle of the tunnel to unload their stroller when there is plenty of room to unload outside the tunnel in front of our shop and queue area, and anywhere in the main entrance area, for that matter. Meanwhile hundreds of people behind them are trying to exit the park and can't get past. Of course it usually takes only 1-2 people to unload a stroller, but of course the whole family of 6-8 people has to form a circle to watch said 1-2 people unload the stroller. Then when I call out, "Please do not unload strollers in the tunnel; you are creating a bottleneck! There's plenty of room out here to unload!" they just look at me funny and go back to taking their sweet little time to unload. And then of course I have to say, "Yes, I'm talking to you!"
:bang:
wheelieman
08-09-2004, 10:48 AM
People just dont think that the rules apply to them. Thats why they go 80 mph on the freeway and then get mad AT THE COP for stopping them. They dont have to take personal responsibility for thier actions anywhere else, so why should they at DLR?
Dave
DLRFantasmic!Dan
08-09-2004, 11:39 AM
I go for Fantasmic!:
"Please keep walking folks, this is a walkway only!! IF you stop, people behind them will stop. If they stop people BEHIND them with stop. If THEY stop people BEHIND THEM with stop!!! Get the picture??!?!?!"
leftcoaster
08-10-2004, 02:56 AM
Glad someone brought this up. :D
Also add part B to this: Why do people attempt to walk against the grain of traffic flow? Why can't people generally keep to the right when walking? I realize that people come to DL and WDW from countries where driving on the left is the norm, but hey, you're in the USA now, so lets try and be a little more courteous. (Yea, right).
In malls, I've always wanted to have barriers put up down the center, so that you have to walk on the right. If you want to make a U turn or go the other way, you have to wait for an "intersection."
DLRFantasmic!Dan
08-10-2004, 12:06 PM
Why are guests so lazy???
Why do they have the tendancy to cross the ropes for a short cut and not just walk around it???
VoodooDawn52
08-10-2004, 03:44 PM
I would have to say the gates in front of attractions are my favorites. When guests think a closed and latched gate does still not apply to them. Thats why we have whistle stops on the train, coming into toontown is where I would usually get them. The guests would be standing on the platform with the wheelchair and the kids would either be playing next to the tracks or on top of the ramp where they could easily fall off :throw: its not until something happens they realize :bang: oh these are real vehicles and they really can hurt us! :hammer:
toon town is still #1 for whistle stops, almost as frequent as Indy down times, it's becase out exit gates there are simpl as barnicles to operate.
They want to change out block light system to make it so that instead of giving the handsignal/call, we puch a button to turn the light green, which means we'll have intrusion, estop, ride stop, all kinds of fun stuff, and the console plans, look more complicated than the indy tower, , so maybe this'll mean autmatice gates or something, and we're going to have RAC too, it's soooo going to suck, if the push button system goes through, i might drop my Knowlege, it won't fit the attraction, theme-wise, effciency wise, anythingwise, i hope out manager figurs that out BEFORE it gets implimented. People are going to think that the trains aren't real because we have to puch a button to make it go...
Grumpy
08-10-2004, 11:03 PM
Why are guests so lazy???
Why do they have the tendancy to cross the ropes for a short cut and not just walk around it???
Because they see some either lazy, or running-late cast members doing it, and figure "oh, he/she let this person go ... so therefore, I can do it too!"
DLSweeper
08-10-2004, 11:05 PM
Holy tap dancing Jesus' ghost!
I know! People drive me crazy when I'm working Fantasmic clean up...... Ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grumpy
08-10-2004, 11:09 PM
Holy tap dancing Jesus' ghost!
I know! People drive me crazy when I'm working Fantasmic clean up...... Ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which people? Guests? cast members? BOTH??
:twisted:
DLSweeper
08-10-2004, 11:30 PM
Holy tap dancing Jesus' ghost!
I know! People drive me crazy when I'm working Fantasmic clean up...... Ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which people? Guests? cast members? BOTH??
:twisted:
*giggle* But, guests, of course. Most CMs are usually frustrated with the guests, so I'm like: Yeah, I won't hate you, THIS TIME! :twisted: JK.
Grumpy
08-10-2004, 11:38 PM
*giggle* But, guests, of course. Most CMs are usually frustrated with the guests, so I'm like: Yeah, I won't hate you, THIS TIME! :twisted: JK.
Well, I know I do it quite often, walking against traffic, going under ropes, all that good crap. Keep in mind, I'm usually in, around, or have to go through NO Square. I walk against traffic because going OVER the bridge to get to Le Bat is a shorter route ... lazy? Maybe ... usually, I'm just running late... LOL.
I usually don't go through ropes unless a CM is nearby, and they SEE that I'm costumed, and need to get somewhere.
Yeah, I do feel kinda like a jerk WHEN I do, but you're right, I am one of the "most CMs" that is usually frustrated w/ guests, and don't really give a flying rat turd. But I still make the extra attempt to be nice to other CMs (unless they tick me off first), when I know that about half of them are thinking "great, she's acting like an ignorant guest ... some CMs"
SweetAurora
08-11-2004, 12:17 AM
I must say, I can be a real bitch when I'm doing Fantasmic GC. Some of you probably already know it..hahaha. I do NOT let people screw with me anymore. If the rest of your family has crawled or jumped over ropes when they shouldn't be and you are stuck on the other side when I catch you, TOUGH. You can go the RIGHT way and meet your family on the other side.
Speaking of that, I usually go to Entrances each night and work the Frontierland area split. The benches from that area are lined up all the way down the middle from the ATM/phones area to the end of the Shooting Gallery. As you know, people can only come IN to the area through Frontierland and only EXIT through Adventureland. If one wants to enter Advenureland, they must go down to the end of the benches and make a U-turn to come back up.
I swear, I could slap the countless people each week that give me crap for making them walk abut 20 feet around the benches to get to Adventureland. LAZY, LAZY, LAZY. Or the people that want to exit the area trying to go through Frontierland. ALL THEY HAVE TO DO is keep going through Adventureland and turn left to Main Street. My spiel usually goes like this (at the top of my lungs) "Please stay to your right, please keep moving, this is a walkway only. Please do NOT jump over the benches, they are there for a reason! Please be patient and thank you!"
It usually works despite the lazy bastards yelling back at you. Tonight, however, an enraged and rather large guest screamed to a CM at the Frontierland gate that she needed to get through. "THE ENTIRE PARK IS A FIRE HAZARD!" she screamed. "M'am," the CM replied, "if we didn't have one-way traffic and specific routes to exit out Fantasmic/Fireworks, it WOULD be a fire hazard." The guest proceeded to pick up a bench (which can be pretty heavy) and throw it towards the CM, and stomped her way to the Frontierland gates.
Oh, and did I mention there was a deaf woman actually sitting on the bench as the woman picked it up to throw it?
Holy tap dancing Jesus' ghost!
I know! People drive me crazy when I'm working Fantasmic clean up...... Ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which people? Guests? cast members? BOTH??
:twisted:
*giggle* But, guests, of course. Most CMs are usually frustrated with the guests, so I'm like: Yeah, I won't hate you, THIS TIME! :twisted: JK.
Jesus tap dances!!!!????
They want to change out block light system to make it so that instead of giving the handsignal/call, we puch a button to turn the light green, which means we'll have intrusion, estop, ride stop, all kinds of fun stuff, and the console plans, look more complicated than the indy tower...
The WDW RR uses both an electric buzzer and a hand signal to start trains. It doesn't have to be all that complicated or out of theme unless the morons in charge can't handle simplicity.
... maybe this'll mean automatic gates or something....
Be glad you have latching gates at all. The WDW RR has swing gates on the exits, and we have to staff every station to keep the ignorant from wandering out onto the platform.
... we're going to have RAC too....
What's RAC?
it's soooo going to suck ... People are going to think that the trains aren't real because we have to push a button to make it go....
Even without a button guests ask how we make it sound like a real train....
Jesus tap dances!!!!????
Okay, okay. I know it's part of my job to provide appropriate smilies for this board, but this one was really tough. Hope it's good enough for y'all:
http://figzu.com/smilies/danceears.gif
we have swing gates too, automatic gates are too much to ask probly.
I'm just pissed that i'm going to have to push a button to do what the system already does on it's own, and i was under the impression that you had a conductor at each station to help load the train, as there is only one conductor per train... at least that's what the dude from WDI said when he was poking around the station to see if that system would work here. We shot it down tho, some points of our track have too much of a bend for one conductor to be able to see the whole train, and we like to make faces at eachother and stuff while the other is trying to speil.
DLSweeper
08-11-2004, 11:31 PM
Jesus tap dances!!!!????
Okay, okay. I know it's part of my job to provide appropriate smilies for this board, but this one was really tough. Hope it's good enough for y'all:
http://figzu.com/smilies/danceears.gif
Man, that is too freakin' great!
we have swing gates too, automatic gates are too much to ask probly.
Yabut your swing gates have two latches. The foot latch makes a big difference, because once the kids try the top latch and it doesn't work, they tend to give up. I've been asking for foot latches for five years now.
... i was under the impression that you had a conductor at each station to help load the train, as there is only one conductor per train....
That's correct. One conductor per train plus one per station.
... at least that's what the dude from WDI said when he was poking around the station to see if that system would work here. We shot it down tho, some points of our track have too much of a bend for one conductor to be able to see the whole train, and we like to make faces at eachother and stuff while the other is trying to speil.
We have plenty of places where the conductor can't see the whole train, and that's not counting darkness. Plus we have 75 open doors on each train, which provides many more opportunities for stupidity.
Trust me, having a station conductor is a great thing. You get lots more guest contact time, answer a lot of questions, and can prepare for the Brazilian tour groups before arrival. I'd take that swap if offered.
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