Enlighten me.

[HMGar]

I'm a huge Disney fan. I pretty much devour everything Disney any chance I get. It comes from great childhood memories of our yearly family vacation. My mom and dad (while still married) would pack up the car and we would drive from Northern CA to Anaheim. We were broke, but they managed a Disney vacation each summer anyway. They are great memories for me.

Anyway, enough of my history. My confusion is the attitude on this Disney site regarding the "forum X" site. I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, but is that site the DIS discussion board? If so, what is so wrong with the people on that site. I browse it frequently, especially when planning a trip. I've asked questions and usually get really informative and friendly information from those folks. The site is filled with Disney fans like myself who are looking for information and like minded people to share their passion and enthusiasm.

I've also had a life long dream to someday work for Disney so that I can have the opportunity to make "dreams come true" as so many of you have for me in the years that I've enjoyed Disney. I know any job involving the task of trying to keep the general public happy can be very tiring and maddening sometimes. I'm just trying to understand the general attitude toward a group of people on a certain "X" message board.

Any thoughts? Thanks. If my assumption about which forum this is is entirely off base, let me know. I've never seen anyone actually name this site.

[DisneyMom]

Board X is a generic term meant to protect the not-so-innocent;)
Maybe you haven't read some of the threads there that clearly show some to be rude and obnoxious SGs and worse, some agreeing with them that it is their right and duty to be a SG since Disney costs so much:eek:
I am not a CM, but am appalled at the general attitude of entitlement you run into at the Parks and in "real life".

[HMGar]

Oh, I absolutely have read some posts that very clearly reveal who the SGs are and their nasty attitudes. When I read those, I either respond by pointing out the errors in their statements, or I ignore them and move on to a more informative or entertaining post.

I guess I'm just confused about why a small percentage of SGs is generalized to a whole population. I think most of the people on the other site are really nice people who are looking to make the most of their vacations.

[ktulu]

Board X is a generic term meant to protect the not-so-innocent;)
Maybe you haven't read some of the threads there that clearly show some to be rude and obnoxious SGs and worse, some agreeing with them that it is their right and duty to be a SG since Disney costs so much:eek:
I am not a CM, but am appalled at the general attitude of entitlement you run into at the Parks and in "real life".

Amen! My experience with Board X has always been met with cliques, and if you oppose the "cool kids" then you're ridiculed. I also found many of them to be in the entitlement crowd. You bought your ticket to Disney, and that gives you the privilege to experience the magic of the parks. Anything addition is at the whim of the Cast and should not be expected, nor something you should ask for. My family has had many magical experiences, none of which were solicited, none of which we jockeyed into position for and none of it was expected. THAT'S what made it magical.

That's not to say that Board X has good people. I encountered them, but sadly in my experience it was few and far between. I still keep in touch with some of them, and most of us moved on from "those other boards". I came here because the attitude was similar, it's not a "planning" board. I can plan on my own, I don't need the assistance of self-proclaimed experts. If I have specific questions, my CM friends here are more than happy to assist via a PM.

[DragonFox98]

Oh, I absolutely have read some posts that very clearly reveal who the SGs are and their nasty attitudes. When I read those, I either respond by pointing out the errors in their statements, or I ignore them and move on to a more informative or entertaining post.

I guess I'm just confused about why a small percentage of SGs is generalized to a whole population. I think most of the people on the other site are really nice people who are looking to make the most of their vacations.

I would say it's more half and half than a small percentage - at best. I don't know about you, but usually when I give my opinion, I get flamed and BAD. God forbid I actually want to enjoy my vaca without "working the system". Most of the time, I try to read entertaining threads or trip reports or I am looking for pics of a particular resort (which has been the case lately since I've never even walked near the Poly).

I agree that there are some very nice people on various Board Xs; however, the percentage that are rude and obnoxious and plan to bend Disney over backward is not small and they are usually very vocal.

Welcome, by the way!!!:waves:


And, since I just read Ktulu's post, yes...most of them are the "entitlement crowd". And I agree, Ktulu, I don't need help planning...especially considering how many times we've gone. Besides, that's half the fun!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I also understand that the terms like "board x, and board Y"and so forth were created so as to not create animosity on those boards, and thus have the SG's come over here and "defend" their attitudes and or position on a given subject.

In other words its designed to reduce trolls.

I agree with other posters, I have always planned my own (successful) Disney vacations since the 70's without needing any "planning board" and even though I joined some different boards, the amount of information available on the Disney web site is more than enough to make a great vacation!

[LadySiren]

I would say it's more half and half than a small percentage - at best. I don't know about you, but usually when I give my opinion, I get flamed and BAD. God forbid I actually want to enjoy my vaca without "working the system". Most of the time, I try to read entertaining threads or trip reports or I am looking for pics of a particular resort (which has been the case lately since I've never even walked near the Poly).

Took the words right outta my mouth. I'm a recovering Board X escapee and lordy, you need a flame-retardant suit in order to do anything over there. I did meet a very small number of really nice people and picked up a very few worthy pieces of info, but for the most part? It's not worth the time or effort.

[Near Philly]

HMGar, SGT was started as a Cast Member venting site. Somewhere they could say what they wanted to about what some stupid guest did.

It's morphed a little but that is still it's main purpose. It's also a haven for Disney enthusiasts who can't stand Board X's attitude.

[darph nader]

HMGar, SGT was started as a Cast Member venting site. Somewhere they could say what they wanted to about what some stupid guest did.

It's morphed a little but that is still it's main purpose. It's also a haven for Disney enthusiasts who can't stand Board X's attitude.

Well said Philly. I do belong to board X and on ocassion asked a ? or two. My favorite things are the same question asked in the same day. (of course,I give them a fair amont of trouble there also. ;))

[turkeyham]

My parents like me having get togethers once in a while. We do call them vent parties. I find after having one of these parties, the stress does go down. At my place, a have a nice picture of annoying cheer leaders. I found out later from my sister Moe, that the winning team picture is my aunt's cheer squad. I gave our aunt the negitave to keep.

So, when you have a bad day at work and you come home to complain... Like I did, I threw a medium size phone book at the picture and nothing happened. All I need is a talking dart board and a annoying chef from vending, and it would be a classic. Maybe at the end of this month I will get one. :D:

[Disneyguy85]

Amen! My experience with Board X has always been met with cliques, and if you oppose the "cool kids" then you're ridiculed. I also found many of them to be in the entitlement crowd. You bought your ticket to Disney, and that gives you the privilege to experience the magic of the parks. Anything addition is at the whim of the Cast and should not be expected, nor something you should ask for. My family has had many magical experiences, none of which were solicited, none of which we jockeyed into position for and none of it was expected. THAT'S what made it magical.

That's not to say that Board X has good people. I encountered them, but sadly in my experience it was few and far between.

That pretty much sums up my experiences as well.

[Goofyernmost]

Board X is a generic term meant to protect the not-so-innocent;)
Maybe you haven't read some of the threads there that clearly show some to be rude and obnoxious SGs and worse, some agreeing with them that it is their right and duty to be a SG since Disney costs so much:eek:
I am not a CM, but am appalled at the general attitude of entitlement you run into at the Parks and in "real life".

I have never made a secret of the fact that I frequent Board X. I'm easy to spot because I use the same screen name (I hate hiding).

In all my years there, I really don't remember what you are saying about it. It has been my experience that whenever someone posts something that is negative and/or entitled they get flamed by many many posters. The exposure comes from posters that ask entitlement or beat the system questions. That is usually reacted too quickly and without mercy sometimes. Those that support it are few and far between and are usually trolls.

Yes, they are different from the group on this site but then again they are the people that you all consider "stupid guests". I realize that this is a primary CM site but if you want to talk clique, well you don't really have to look far to find it.

The point is that there is room out there for both types. I understand the need to vent. I work with the public myself, but most of the posters on X are just people that love Disney and are sometimes a little hyper about it. Try to be a bit understanding. Most of them defend CM's to the hilt. I know, I am one of them.

[Disneyguy85]

I have never made a secret of the fact that I frequent Board X. I'm easy to spot because I use the same screen name (I hate hiding).

In all my years there, I really don't remember what you are saying about it. It has been my experience that whenever someone posts something that is negative and/or entitled they get flamed by many many posters. The exposure comes from posters that ask entitlement or beat the system questions. That is usually reacted too quickly and without mercy sometimes. Those that support it are few and far between and are usually trolls.

Yes, they are different from the group on this site but then again they are the people that you all consider "stupid guests". I realize that this is a primary CM site but if you want to talk clique, well you don't really have to look far to find it.

The point is that there is room out there for both types. I understand the need to vent. I work with the public myself, but most of the posters on X are just people that love Disney and are sometimes a little hyper about it. Try to be a bit understanding. Most of them defend CM's to the hilt. I know, I am one of them.

You do realize that "board X" does not necessarily refer to a specific board right?

[Goofyernmost]

You do realize that "board X" does not necessarily refer to a specific board right?

Of course it does...the Dis Boards have been mentioned often and with great venom. If that isn't the one then I apologize but it seems that the quotes are coming from there.

[delsdad]

Of course it does...the Dis Boards have been mentioned often and with great venom. If that isn't the one then I apologize but it seems that the quotes are coming from there.

No. It has always been a generic term for the "other" boards in the few years I have frequented here. Posts referred to board X, Y or Z but never any indication of which is which. It was understood that X was both any and all other Disney boards. An additional benefit was that it kept G00gle from indexing posts regarding the specific other boards.

Perhaps in recent threads it has been used to refer to a specific board (and I frequent several of them from time to time, for planning information) but these recent threads are in fact the first instances that I can recall of a specific board being named.

I thought the mods had requested that those other boards NOT be referred to by name, in order to avoid attracting attention from their members, and from the trolls.

Lets all try and not mention any of those other boards by name, and keep SGT below the radar !

deldad

[HMGar]

I have never made a secret of the fact that I frequent Board X. I'm easy to spot because I use the same screen name (I hate hiding).

In all my years there, I really don't remember what you are saying about it. It has been my experience that whenever someone posts something that is negative and/or entitled they get flamed by many many posters. The exposure comes from posters that ask entitlement or beat the system questions. That is usually reacted too quickly and without mercy sometimes. Those that support it are few and far between and are usually trolls.

Yes, they are different from the group on this site but then again they are the people that you all consider "stupid guests". I realize that this is a primary CM site but if you want to talk clique, well you don't really have to look far to find it.

The point is that there is room out there for both types. I understand the need to vent. I work with the public myself, but most of the posters on X are just people that love Disney and are sometimes a little hyper about it. Try to be a bit understanding. Most of them defend CM's to the hilt. I know, I am one of them.

Thank you for explaining my confusion better than I did. This is exactly what I was trying to communicate and I couldn't agree with you more.

By the way, I do not see anything wrong with a message board that is meant to be a venting place for those who work everyday with a smile on their face even when they don't feel like it. You need it and bless you for the dreams that you make come true every day. I just was confused by the animosity toward board X folks.

[Disneyguy85]

Of course it does...

...As delsdad said, No, its doesn't.

The "X" board(s) that I am familiar with include many people who are very rude, cynical, and get such glee and happiness from viciously insulting other people who dare disagree with their always negative options.
And the mods at those places never seem to care; all they ever seem to do is give troublemakers a slap on the wrist, and spout empty threats.

So, as I said before, the term "board X" does not necessarily refer to a specific message board. And the letters "Y" or "Z" are mentioned when talking about multiple boards.

Its all to keep the names anonymous, so that they don't appear in an online search engine.

[Fitswimmer]

You do realize that "board X" does not necessarily refer to a specific board right?

It may not, but I agree with Goofy-it's pretty clear which "board X" is being slammed with the greatest frequency. I'm fairly sure it's because of the sheer size.

All "X" participants are not entitled SG's and while it has a sizable group of them, I've also met some truly wonderful folks there that I've become friends with "offline". We have a pretty good time laughing at the SG's there too, actually.

I'm always hesitant to label an entire group for the actions of some.

[ktulu]

I'm not sure defending board x,y, or z is going to get much milage here. I know there are some good people, but I personally believe (based on personal experience) that those people are in the minority.

[DisneyMom]

I'm not sure defending board x,y, or z is going to get much milage here. I know there are some good people, but I personally believe (based on personal experience) that those people are in the minority.

Besides that, if they were that cool, they'd be here!:)

[Disneyguy85]

I'm not sure defending board x,y, or z is going to get much milage here. I know there are some good people, but I personally believe (based on personal experience) that those people are in the minority.

Exactly.

And some people here have obviously never been to the boards(s) that I have experienced....This is the second time I have said that, if I were any more specific, I would have to say the actual names, and that is not gonna happen. so PLEASE trust me when I say that there are boards with the kind of people that I have described in my previous post.

I know what I am talking about.

[Disneyguy85]

It may not, but I agree with Goofy-it's pretty clear which "board X" is being slammed with the greatest frequency.

Again, not necessarily. I personally have never even been to that board.

[delsdad]

Besides that, if they were that cool, they'd be here!:)

Some of them are! :cheshire::figment: And he's even a front line CM!

[Fitswimmer]

Some of them are! :cheshire::figment: And he's even a front line CM!

I'm a full time CM, and I frequent both this board and "board X". I would stand up for this board there, and I'll stand up for that one here.

This board could just as easily be slammed as clique-ish and those of us who post and read here considered "un-Disney" by people who don't understand it's true purpose.

I agree with those who suggest that "board X" threads should be left where they are and not even brought to this board. If people want to read what SG's are saying on other boards, we can always take our own initiative and head on over to them.

[mapo]

I'm a full time CM, and I frequent both this board and "board X". I would stand up for this board there, and I'll stand up for that one here.

This board could just as easily be slammed as clique-ish and those of us who post and read here considered "un-Disney" by people who don't understand it's true purpose.

I agree with those who suggest that "board X" threads should be left where they are and not even brought to this board. If people want to read what SG's are saying on other boards, we can always take our own initiative and head on over to them.

How about not standing up for this board anywhere and maybe the trolls will stop coming here or dragging us into their crap?

We know who we are...kinda. They have a good idea who they are...mostly. And I say vote with your clicks (mouse), if you want x, y, z..go where ever it is.

The part that is the funniest is that any one could think a group of CAST MEMBERS could be un Disney. I think we are realists that work in 'Fantasyland' but are fully grounded (mostly) in the irony of where we work and sometimes (need more time) play.

The funniest and sorriest (is that a word) encounters I have on an almost hourly basis are those SGs who try to "out Disney me". Seriously? You wanna be all sarcastic ..."You didn't say Welcome Home!", "you aren't smiling!", and that crap and you expect me to be all pixie dust in reply? You get courtesy...politeness....and none of the extras hon.

Yeah, I should be smiling while I an running an emerency call and you wanna pin trade? Seriously?!?!?

I have a person on the ground in a medical emergency and complain that I will not tell you what is going on? Seriously????

Oh, you are held a couple of minutes while cast are making sure your ungratelful *ss is safe. Then you complain that you are late for dinner? Seriously???

Worse. They come and get hired cause they are breathing...then try to "out Disney" their trainer, their collegues, their managers and hit the matrix cause they do not get time off on weekends??? Seriously??!!!!

When I first got to MK, I put on a pedometer. (Was trying to lose weight...don't ask) When I saw the double digit miles I put on my feet on a slow day, I broke the damned pedometer. Yeah, I was frustrated I walked that far and still wasn't losing weight. ;)

I dare any of these complainers that say we are "un Disney" or "not Disney enough" to stand and walk for 8 hrs with just one hour off for breaks and food. Then you see what kind of mood you and your body are in...then imagine you had to be super nice to every jack*** that could pay the entry fee.

Yeah...did I mention I hate the holidays?

MAPO

[Tinker Bell]

Yeah...did I mention I hate the holidays?

MAPO

You and me both. The worst guest are coming to the parks. And the last thing I want is to come here and see more guest complaints. After being assaulted, and yelled I think it's my time to moan and complaint. I have many things I *could* say about board a, b, c... x, y, z. I just don't have the energy and patience to deal with them. For a change after a very long day *I* want to be the one that is bitc**** about something, just so I can wake up tomorrow and do it all over again with a happy face.

[mousefan]

I completely respect the CM's that need to vent - it gives me a perspective and an appreciation I wouldnt have... (really those Vuvuzelas arent confiscated at the gate?)

one thing I figure is a board X may have more members and/or trolls that post, and as that occurs its only natural to ask at sgt - because their (sgt) knowledge is more reliable..

[Fitswimmer]

How about not standing up for this board anywhere and maybe the trolls will stop coming here or dragging us into their crap?

I don't speak of this board anywhere-sorry for the confusion. I've never even mentioned it at work. I found it on my own, anyone else can do the same. My only point was that IF this board were being brought up and maligned elsewhere, I would defend it.

and I agree-the holidays suck and the summer holidays suck even more because they come with heat and humidity. Stupidity seems to be magnified in the heat.

[Main Streeter]

The worst guest are coming to the parks.
Oh no Dels! Do you think this might refer to you & I in Aug.? :eek: :D: No CM will receive a complaint from me! A smile, hello, & a thank you, then a G C. Bet Dels will do the same. :)

[delsdad]

Oh no Dels! Do you think this might refer to you & I in Aug.? :eek: :D: No CM will receive a complaint from me! A smile, hello, & a thank you, then a G C. Bet Dels will do the same. :)

You've got that right!

[Goofyernmost]

Oh no Dels! Do you think this might refer to you & I in Aug.? :eek: :D: No CM will receive a complaint from me! A smile, hello, & a thank you, then a G C. Bet Dels will do the same. :)

Well, they will now...I think we have just be insulted...harrrumph!

[HMGar]

How about not standing up for this board anywhere and maybe the trolls will stop coming here or dragging us into their crap?

We know who we are...kinda. They have a good idea who they are...mostly. And I say vote with your clicks (mouse), if you want x, y, z..go where ever it is.

The part that is the funniest is that any one could think a group of CAST MEMBERS could be un Disney. I think we are realists that work in 'Fantasyland' but are fully grounded (mostly) in the irony of where we work and sometimes (need more time) play.

The funniest and sorriest (is that a word) encounters I have on an almost hourly basis are those SGs who try to "out Disney me". Seriously? You wanna be all sarcastic ..."You didn't say Welcome Home!", "you aren't smiling!", and that crap and you expect me to be all pixie dust in reply? You get courtesy...politeness....and none of the extras hon.

Yeah, I should be smiling while I an running an emerency call and you wanna pin trade? Seriously?!?!?

I have a person on the ground in a medical emergency and complain that I will not tell you what is going on? Seriously????

Oh, you are held a couple of minutes while cast are making sure your ungratelful *ss is safe. Then you complain that you are late for dinner? Seriously???

Worse. They come and get hired cause they are breathing...then try to "out Disney" their trainer, their collegues, their managers and hit the matrix cause they do not get time off on weekends??? Seriously??!!!!

When I first got to MK, I put on a pedometer. (Was trying to lose weight...don't ask) When I saw the double digit miles I put on my feet on a slow day, I broke the damned pedometer. Yeah, I was frustrated I walked that far and still wasn't losing weight. ;)

I dare any of these complainers that say we are "un Disney" or "not Disney enough" to stand and walk for 8 hrs with just one hour off for breaks and food. Then you see what kind of mood you and your body are in...then imagine you had to be super nice to every jack*** that could pay the entry fee.

Yeah...did I mention I hate the holidays?

MAPO

I'm not sure where this rant came from. I've heard nobody accuse any CMs of being undisney anywhere in this thread. It was a thread about accusing a group of people on boards x,y, and z of all being SGs.

[HMGar]

I enjoy reading this board as a hopeful future CM. It is entertaining and it keeps my expectations in check. I believe in the need for a place to vent.

I simply started this thread because I also read "board X". (Maybe the most popular board x) and I simply don't see all the SGs that I've read references to. I mostly see nice folks looking for info in planning their trips.

I didn't want to stir up any arguments or debates or hard feelings. Cheers.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I enjoy reading this board as a hopeful future CM. It is entertaining and it keeps my expectations in check. I believe in the need for a place to vent.

I simply started this thread because I also read "board X". (Maybe the most popular board x) and I simply don't see all the SGs that I've read references to. I mostly see nice folks looking for info in planning their trips.

I didn't want to stir up any arguments or debates or hard feelings. Cheers.

I think that the problem is, that SG'ism comes from the ATTITUDE of the guest. Some guests can make mistakes or have accidents but not be SG's, but other guests can have the same mis-adventure and be total SG's.

you can pick them out on board x, y, or zed just by the way they post at times.

(complain and get a free upgrade, complain because the CM didn't wish me a happy birthday because I was in a crowd of 5,000 heading into the park and he didn't see my button, and so forth)

want a way to see SG's? shut down an attraction for whatever reason (safety, etc.) and see the ones that DEMAND the attraction be opened back up for them because they are leaving for the airport in ten minutes, and the ONLY reason they came for a week was to go on the attraction. (yeah, their logic is flawed a bit)

Or they will tell you how much they paid for a vacation and demand some sort of compensation.

I have been to Disneyland more times than I can count, and WDW 12 times or so. we have had attractions get shut down, or are down for some maintence. no big deal, move on to another one and we will catch it next time.

like I said, its more of a poor entitlement attitude than anything else.

[Main Streeter]

I think we have just be insulted...harrrumph!How???? :eek: :confused:

[HMGar]

Bleh. I don't want to sound like a broken record, so this will be my last post. Maybe it's a different message board than the DIS discussion board. If so, my appologies for even bringing this topic up.

For the most part, I don't read "entitlement" into most of the threads on that board. I see a board with 98 percent nice folks sharing info about Disney.

I understand that as a CM you would see a lot of people throughout your work days who are SGs and act "entitled" and so forth. For that, I sympathize. I just don't see it on the other message board I read. I'm in no way defending any SGs that anybody has actually witnessed. I've seen it too, and when I do, I either speak up or ignore them. Instead, I am defending a community of people who actually seem really nice.

[CptnSkippy]

For the most part, I don't read "entitlement" into most of the threads on that board. I see a board with 98 percent nice folks sharing info about Disney.


Look at it this way, there millions of visitors to the Walt Disney World Resort annually. 98% of them have a great time, enjoy their trip and cause no problems. Less than 2% are the ones who earn the titles of SG.

[Goofyernmost]

How???? :eek: :confused:

It was a joke...don't worry be happy!

[Fitswimmer]

I think that the problem is, that SG'ism comes from the ATTITUDE of the guest. Some guests can make mistakes or have accidents but not be SG's, but other guests can have the same mis-adventure and be total SG's.

you can pick them out on board x, y, or zed just by the way they post at times.

(complain and get a free upgrade, complain because the CM didn't wish me a happy birthday because I was in a crowd of 5,000 heading into the park and he didn't see my button, and so forth)

want a way to see SG's? shut down an attraction for whatever reason (safety, etc.) and see the ones that DEMAND the attraction be opened back up for them because they are leaving for the airport in ten minutes, and the ONLY reason they came for a week was to go on the attraction. (yeah, their logic is flawed a bit)

Or they will tell you how much they paid for a vacation and demand some sort of compensation.

I have been to Disneyland more times than I can count, and WDW 12 times or so. we have had attractions get shut down, or are down for some maintence. no big deal, move on to another one and we will catch it next time.

like I said, its more of a poor entitlement attitude than anything else.

I had one of these last week. We were shutting down for a lightening storm-nothing to mess with in Central Florida. The ride I was working is basically a building made entirely of metal-and this SG decides he's NOT going to evacuate and go to the shelters because this was his last day, the plane is leaving tomorrow and if he leaves he'll lose his place in line. My brain was screaming: "are you KIDDING ME???"
Thankfully, one of our coordinators had come up to help us get everyone out and he politely but firmly convinced Mr SG that a metal building was not the place he wanted to be.

[turkeyham]

I see where you are coming from. There was a few years ago a bunch of us where sitting in the shade. Metal tables with nice big umbrellas. Suddenly a thunder storm hits and no one wants to move. There was a paramedic run in the area. 30 minutes later, the fire department gets on their radio and tells everyone to get into the building! We learned, if there is a thunder storm roaring in the area and you are on metal or near metal, get out of there at once. :eek:

[ziplu]

I enjoy reading this board as a hopeful future CM. It is entertaining and it keeps my expectations in check. I believe in the need for a place to vent.

I simply started this thread because I also read "board X". (Maybe the most popular board x) and I simply don't see all the SGs that I've read references to. I mostly see nice folks looking for info in planning their trips.

I didn't want to stir up any arguments or debates or hard feelings. Cheers.

Do you spend any time on the community board? That'll chew you up and spit you out real good :twisted: :eek:. Seriously, if you read enough threads on any of the boards, you'll find the "entitled" crowd and the SG's everywhere. Especially if you hang around long enough. And the aforementioned board included. I've seen a lot of doozies, I just ignore them.

[wmcn09]

I think that the problem is, that SG'ism comes from the ATTITUDE of the guest. Some guests can make mistakes or have accidents but not be SG's, but other guests can have the same mis-adventure and be total SG's.

you can pick them out on board x, y, or zed just by the way they post at times.

(complain and get a free upgrade, complain because the CM didn't wish me a happy birthday because I was in a crowd of 5,000 heading into the park and he didn't see my button, and so forth)

want a way to see SG's? shut down an attraction for whatever reason (safety, etc.) and see the ones that DEMAND the attraction be opened back up for them because they are leaving for the airport in ten minutes, and the ONLY reason they came for a week was to go on the attraction. (yeah, their logic is flawed a bit)

Or they will tell you how much they paid for a vacation and demand some sort of compensation.

I have been to Disneyland more times than I can count, and WDW 12 times or so. we have had attractions get shut down, or are down for some maintence. no big deal, move on to another one and we will catch it next time.

like I said, its more of a poor entitlement attitude than anything else.

Yes, the attitude I've noticed recently is crazy! In fact, after reading comments from others and seeing the battle of those that feel "entitled" vs those of us that are just happy to be on vacation, I've decided we won't ask for a GAC (never have before, but now 3 of my family members qualify for one) -- unless something just totally melts down in our plans and the only other option is a vodka drip for me in the middle of MK!
Seriously, I've noticed recently, whether it's WDW or something else, everyone feels they are "special" and "entitled", that their case is an "exception" when it really isn't. It's just annoying to me.
Sorry, had to vent after something I read elsewhere recently.
I actually enjoy this board the most! Vent away CM's, please vent away!

[Kellyv]

I honestly don't know how the CMs do it. I have run into some guests that I wanted to smack b/c of the way they are speaking to the CMs. Being on vacation does not give you the right to treat people badly and I don't care how much you spent. I think no matter what board you go on, you will see bad behavior, it is so much easier when you don't have to look the other person in the eyes.

[Main Streeter]

I honestly don't know how the CMs do it.
We use Magic! & venting on SGT site. ;)

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

We use Magic! & venting on SGT site. ;)

..and RUM?

[BRWombat]

..and RUM?But never on duty.(citation needed)

[darph nader]

But never on duty.(citation needed)

We don't? :(

[pbb]

I have been reading past posts here since joining SG. I found SG in a post on fark.com. I have read several different X boards in the past years. When posters have referred to x boards I knew exactly what they meant, LOL.

I am a WDW fan. We own points at DVC in Old Key West. I worked for a subcontractor who did work on Philharmagic in WDW and Hong Kong. It was very exciting for me to go behind the scenes and to be part of the birth of a new park. I loved meeting and befriending CM's over the years as a customer and as a vendor. As in life, their were some great people and few with some attitude. Overall, quality people.

I have not posted in DIS for 5 months now. Not that I posted every day mind you. The reason I left DIS Boards are the DIZealots (my phrase copyright applied for...... :) ) and the moderators as well. Someone posted something negative about Disney in a thread. The man wrote a well constructed paragraph of his opinion. He did go overboard. He did not take cheapshots. Then the Dizealots attacked from the left and the right. He was called names, he was told he should go elsewhere on his vacation, there was a nasty tone in the whole thing. The mods even attacked the poor guy. He was told he should sell his DVC Points and leave. I wrote the editor and the mods about this thread and I was given points warning me. So, I left.

There is a definite Disney can do no wrong attitude on these boards. Disney must provide advertising dollars to DIS because management had the same attitude.

I am more of a realist. It is, what it is person. There are good and bad guests. There are good and bad castmembers. There are good and bad decisions made by Disney Management. One thing I have found though......There are no good Brazillian Tour guides......LOL

I really have enjoyed reading the views from the CM's. I promise not to expose you to the internet or the X,Y and Z boards.

[BRWombat]

Sounds like you'll get along great here, pbb. And how cool that you were a part of Philharmagic?? One of my favorite attractions ever.

:sgthello:

:D: :D: :D:

[pbb]

Thanks,

It has been pointed out to me that I have taken ownership in Philharmagic because I refer to it now as my theater. LOL Wives have a way to ground you sometimes.

[Lasolimu]

Hello pbb, I am the resident dragon and would like to offer you a very warm* welcome to that slice of the internet we call SGT. This website contains threads with quick twists and turns and I would like to advise you to not try to hard to keep up with them. Please keep your hands, arms, and legs safely inside the website at all times and enjoy your stay.

*this instance of warm is actually hot**... very hot

**this instance of hot means that you are now literally on fire, I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for any inconvenience

[Main Streeter]

..and RUM?Not me GP. Straight Coke is my D O C. :cool: Your rum would get me a 1014. :eek:

[Main Streeter]

Ooops forgot. :o: Welcome pbb. :) Your avatar is great! Golden? Does he/she own you? ;)

[pbb]

Ooops forgot. :o: Welcome pbb. :) Your avatar is great! Golden? Does he/she own you? ;)

That is my Golden, Riker, he was 13 years old when he passed on Valentines Day in 2009. There is a saying in the Golden World that states "I only hope to be the Human my Golden expects me to be". He reminds me to take a breath in the internet world. LOL

I have a new Golden named Riley who looks exactly the same but is 18 months old. There is a big difference between a senior golden and a puppy.

Leaving our Golden's behind is the worst part of going to WDW. Now, that I have read about people all sorts of animals claiming they were service animals in the forums at SG. Maybe, we will turn Riley into one.....LOL At least, he looks the part. :)

We saw a man in a wheel chair with two labs pulling him through Epcot near World Showcase. They were better behaved than a lot of the kids we saw.

Thanks for the warm welcome !

Patrick

[Main Streeter]

That is my Golden, Riker, he was 13 years old when he passed on Valentines Day in 2009. There is a saying in the Golden World that states "I only hope to be the Human my Golden expects me to be". He reminds me to take a breath in the internet world. LOL

I have a new Golden named Riley who looks exactly the same but is 18 months old. There is a big difference between a senior golden and a puppy.

Leaving our Golden's behind is the worst part of going to WDW. Now, that I have read about people all sorts of animals claiming they were service animals in the forums at SG. Maybe, we will turn Riley into one.....LOL At least, he looks the part. :)

We saw a man in a wheel chair with two labs pulling him through Epcot near World Showcase. They were better behaved than a lot of the kids we saw.

Patrick
Riker is at Rainbow Bridge & happy, but still brought tears as I read. Pleased Riley has a Loving, Forever home. :dog1: Have never had a puppy. I'm blessed by 2 wonderful American Cockers. They were both internet rescues from high kill shelters & give so much love. Cocker owners have a similar saying. Train Riley to be a Companion Dog. You'll never be sorry. :) We have Goldens training @ DLR daily. Owners often bring them to visit me b/c they recall I'm an animal person. Agree, most dogs are better behaved than children. :cool: & dogs listen!! ;)

[BRWombat]

...It has been pointed out to me that I have taken ownership in Philharmagic because I refer to it now as my theater. ...And rightly so -- you should be proud. I met a custodial CM on my visit to Anaheim last year who spent of lot of extra hours doing paint and detail work on Toy Story Midway Mania, winning a Spirit of Disney award in the process. I could tell that TSMM was just as much "his" attraction. I have no problem at all with the pride that comes from a job well done!

[joanna71985]

want a way to see SG's? shut down an attraction for whatever reason (safety, etc.) and see the ones that DEMAND the attraction be opened back up for them because they are leaving for the airport in ten minutes, and the ONLY reason they came for a week was to go on the attraction. (yeah, their logic is flawed a bit)

Or they will tell you how much they paid for a vacation and demand some sort of compensation.

I have been to Disneyland more times than I can count, and WDW 12 times or so. we have had attractions get shut down, or are down for some maintence. no big deal, move on to another one and we will catch it next time.

like I said, its more of a poor entitlement attitude than anything else.

Heh, wait until mid August when Toy Story Mania goes down. I'm sure there will be a lot of that

[turkeyham]

pbb,

Welcome to our happy home. My neighbors in my condo complex have Golden Retreivers. Smart dogs! My neighbor's dogs look like the continelle toilet paper dogs. The dogs are very sweat and love attention. The older one is almost 1 years old. The youngest is 3 months old.

I wish I could have one, but I have a problem with the animal dander. I have to wash my hands after I pet them. :(

[DragonFox98]

Welcome, pbb!!! I love Riker's picture. I lost my Amber (Amby) on July 4, 2003...it was devastating. She owned me as only a Golden could...and she thought she was a lapdog! LOL I haven't yet been able to adopt another one...still too painful, but my dad just got a puppy in November after loosing his Golden in 2008. He is in contact with the President of the local Golden retriever rescue organization so I will contact her about adopting in the near future. But first: a fight with my township to put up a fence! :)

I liked your post; I think it many points spot on. And I think you will enjoy it here.

[Christine43]

I've become a lurker on any site, including here, b/c of some of the negative behavior I've encountered on other boards and just once, here (by a visiting jerk) but I do continue to read. I joined this board primarily to make sure I, or my children, never act like a SG but I realized there were some very welcoming and intelligent people here with a wealth of info. I really only post on one other board that's much more positive than what I think board x is and if anyone wants the name of that board, I'll be happy to give it to you if you pm me.

[pbb]

Welcome, pbb!!! I love Riker's picture. I lost my Amber (Amby) on July 4, 2003...it was devastating. She owned me as only a Golden could...and she thought she was a lapdog! LOL I haven't yet been able to adopt another one...still too painful, but my dad just got a puppy in November after loosing his Golden in 2008. He is in contact with the President of the local Golden retriever rescue organization so I will contact her about adopting in the near future. But first: a fight with my township to put up a fence! :)

I liked your post; I think it many points spot on. And I think you will enjoy it here.

Thank You for the Welcome! Tell Dad Congratulations! I don't think we can go through puppy hood again. We are going the rescue route next time. If you get a chance read "A Big Little Life" by author Dean Koontz about his Golden Trixie. It was a wonderful tribute to a his special Golden. I am going to do what he did and adopt a retired dog from a Canine Assistance facility. No Puppy issues plus the dogs are trained already.......I thought that was pretty smart.

We have 2 Golden Rescues in Atlanta and they are swamped with beautiful healthy Goldens who have been abandoned because of economic issues such as foreclosures. I would bet you could pick up a great young healthy Golden very easily. I am sure your first Golden will understand. Amby wants you to be happy. She will understand. :)

[dismomof5]

Welcome!! I'm still new here too...but I enjoy reading...even though I still mainly lurk simply because I'm gun shy. People on many message boards don't think before they speak, or think they have the right to be a jerk just because there is a computer between them and their victim.

My mom just lost her Golden, Sunny, in April. She was 10, and well loved. She's resisting the pull of a new companion, but she likes to play grandma to my sister's two pups. My brother had her pawprint tattooed on his leg...and my daughter carries pictures of her on a keychain. They are wonderful dogs! Or furry people...however you like to look at it. :p:

[BRWombat]

...People on many message boards don't think before they speak ...Give them some credit, dismomof5 -- many of them don't think after they speak, either! :D:

[Zazu]

They are wonderful dogs! Or furry people...however you like to look at it. :p:

I think I'll stick with "dog". Those who work at Disney get a different image from the term "furry", and it's not always so good.

[Lasolimu]

I think I'll stick with "dog". Those who work at Disney get a different image from the term "furry", and it's not always so good.

And what's wrong with us furries?:confused::mad:

[CBeilby]

And what's wrong with us furries?:confused::mad:

Nothing at all, although, technically, you're a scaly. Furverts, on the other hand... Well, they're the living epitome of Rule 34.

(Rule 34: If it exists, there exists internet porn for it. And do not google Furvert, folks.)

[Lasolimu]

Nothing at all, although, technically, you're a scaly. Furverts, on the other hand... Well, they're the living epitome of Rule 34.

(Rule 34: If it exists, there exists internet porn for it. And do not google Furvert, folks.)

I do...kinda...fall into that category though, I guess I just know where to draw the line.:p:

[PatchOBlack]

I do...kinda...fall into that category though, I guess I just know where to draw the line.:p:

If you can draw several lines, you can do your own artwork! :cat1:

While I do believe that what some folks associate with "furry" is not the reality of the situation, I think I will leave that discussion for another time and place.

[Lasolimu]

If you can draw several lines, you can do your own artwork! :cat1:

While I do believe that what some folks associate with "furry" is not the reality of the situation, I think I will leave that discussion for another time and place.

Like the thought that all furries do something, but in reality only a small portion of furries do something in that direction, and only a small portion of those actually do the thing furries are well known for thanks to the media?:rolleyes:

(If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's probably for the best)

[pbb]

My mom just lost her Golden, Sunny, in April. She was 10, and well loved. She's resisting the pull of a new companion, but she likes to play grandma to my sister's two pups. My brother had her pawprint tattooed on his leg...and my daughter carries pictures of her on a keychain. They are wonderful dogs! Or furry people...however you like to look at it. :p:

Thank you for the warm Welcome! I am sorry for your Mother's loss. Losing a family member is very difficult. Is your mom alone? That was the toughest part of losing Riker was the silence of the house. Riker was very special to me because he has played nurse to me for several years. I have a back injury in which I had surgery, the surgery went bad and I got two infections, another surgery, a picc line for 8 weeks in my arm in which my lovely wife gave me IV antibiotics,a third surgery to remove the hardware. All in 6 months time. My sons both moved out of the house on their way to college. It was just Riker and I during the day. Every time I moved he moved with me. My wife put a pill fob on his collar and my pain meds in it. In case, I go trapped on a floor where my pills weren't she knew he was always with me. My pain is horrible at night and I used to get up and go lie downstairs on the couch. Riker always came down and found me on the couch and gave me a big hug. Which consisted of putting his nose in my armpit with a huge tail wag. He knew when I was in pain and would stay that way longer when it was bad.

The reason I was asking if mom was alone was that elderly people need the companionship. I would not consider myself elderly but I sure did love the companionship he gave me. The new dog Riley is pretty good but he is more entertaining with his puppy ways.

Whoever created Dug in the movie "UP" was a golden owner and lover. The character was a perfect Golden Retriever............ "My name is Dug. I have just met you and I love you"'. It cracks me up every time!

[hobie16]

You had a great buddy pbb. Don't worry about Riley. The puppy will wear off and he'll be a good friend too.

[Main Streeter]

You write so lovingly abt Riker pbb. Thank you for sharing some of Riker's wonder & heart. :dog1: