Sitting on handrails and chains...

[PrncssCinderAlly]

you have to love those people who always have to sit or lean on something, even if there is only a five minute wait. Either way, at mansion all we have are chains in the cue on a slow day so natually guests tend to want to sit, swing, jump over, and more or less just do whatever they please with them. But it seems like about once a month you tell them the ususal "dont sit on the chains please, they break cuz they arent designed to sustain your weight." And some smart allack desides rules dont apply to them and the chain breaks right out from under them. you want to laugh and the other people in line tend to. What is it about human beings that we have to test things. If we are told something is unsafe we automatically decide its our job to prove why. lol i dont get it :lol:

anyone else have these guests proving themselves dumb moments??

[kutisusie]

I was walking past Dumbo one day and saw a small child speww about three lunches worth in front of the queue entrance. Being a responsible lead, I moved tracshcans, called custodial on the radio and stood guard to divert people around the mess until custodial showed up. There was this one man that came up to me and I told him to please walk around. He looked at me, and said why? So I told him, and he said, well, I'll be careful, and the dumb jerk walked right through the middle. Well after he did that, a whole bunch of other guests did too. They did this even after I asked them not to do so. I swear., You would think I had asked them to walk to the other side of the ride, when I asked them to walk five feet! :bang:

[SRT_GB]

As I mentioned before, we've had our fair share of CFA runs for people who sit on the ropes and fall down because they snap. The worst is when they sit on a rope that's attached to a rollaway and fall down when it collapses, then they just get back up and sit on another one.

Another really stupid one is when I see someone sitting on the ropes and I ask them not to sit on them FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY (I always emphasize this point) and they or the parents just look at me like I'm saying it to exercise my vocal chords or something. Sometimes if I'm really annoyed I'll follow up with, "I meant now."
:bang:

[techie-13]

Okay, not really a stupid guest trick as much as an "I don't have to follow your rules trick." I work on a pyro crew and we will often fence off the area around our racks with caution tape or if there is a fence with a gate we will zip tie the gate shut. Granted, the tape line or fence could be about 100' away from the actual racks but we will get these idiots that see it blocked off and STILL cross over or under it. The usual response is "why is it closed? it's open every other day!" We once had an idiot whose reply was "it said caution, I'm using caution." The most obnoxious reply to us yelling at them to get out of the area is "This is public property and I'm entitled to use it because I pay taxes" Yeah! I know it's a public park and all but we were hired by the City to use the park to put on the show, so be sure to explain that one to the other taxpayers who want this fireworks show, that we had to cancel the setup because you decided that you had to fly a kite in the middle of our safety zone during setup.
Okay, sorry, I'm just a little bitter about certain types of idiots! :roll:

[Freak]

I know it's a public park and all but we were hired by the City to use the park to put on the show, so be sure to explain that one to the other taxpayers who want this fireworks show, that we had to cancel the setup because you decided that you had to fly a kite in the middle of our safety zone during setup.


Heh, I'd just aim one of the tubes towards the kite and blow it out of the sky...maybe it'd hit the person flying it too... :twisted:

[imissRBT]

ugh they think they have a right to cross it cuz they pay taxes? does that mean they have a right to walk through wet cement or sit on the freeway? gosh people can come up with really lame excuses and expect u to be like "oh well in THAT case....."

[coldfire409]

I love it when they decide to sit on the ropes that are attached to a rollaway stanchion. I once had a chan reaction of errors happen when one idiot decided to sit on the rope and obvoisly it fell because it was attached to a rollaway. Although not only did that one fall, but almost the entire queue because we had to ropes streatched as tight as they could go. :roll:

[Polar33]

The most obnoxious reply to us yelling at them to get out of the area is "This is public property and I'm entitled to use it because I pay taxes"

Try this next time: "The city jail is also public property, I can arrange for you to have use of that seeing that you seem to like being places that smarter people would stay out of."

On the topic of broken chains, I had a bit of entertainment this weekend as I watched one of our larger guests sit on the chain rope at the Matterhorn and caused a stanchion pole to bend. I then saw him do it again a while later in annother part of the line. I wouldn't be suprised if there were quite a few broken poles and chains after he left the park that day.

[SweetAurora]

Speaking of the chains/ropes things, I fondly recall my boyfriend telling me about the time he and a friend watched a trio of rather heavyset girls swinging and giggling on our ride's queue rope. He spieled over and over again for them to remove their butts, but they just ignored him. His friend actually counted down the seconds until the rope collapsed and SPLAT. They all came tumbling down.

How about people who get their hands, arms, feet, fingers, etc. stuck in the WIERDEST or STUPIDEST places...I see that a lot, for sure.

[Thatguy]

YES!!.... one time jungle went 101 because a lady got her knee caught in the slats of the wall of the queue.

[techie-13]

At Great America, we would have small kids get their heads stuck in the slats of the queue line fence at Barney Oldfield's (our version of Autopia) several times a season. But the best one was a lady that got her leg jammed into the front of a Yankee Clipper boat (flume ride that held 7 to a boat and is no longer there) she got stuck riding the ride for about an hour while they tried to find a way to get her out. Her boat would come down the chute, into the station, they would try to get her free at her boat travelled around the wheel of a station and then as she got toward the dispatch side of the station, she would apologize for the hassle and go through the ride again.
Everyone felt bad for her because she was a REALLY nice guest. They finally took the boat out of circulation and cut it open to get her free.

[Karnever]

YES!!.... one time jungle went 101 because a lady got her knee caught in the slats of the wall of the queue.
That was always fun to see peoples knees stuck in the Queue railing and the sheer panic in there face as they cant get there leg out...

My favorite at Jungle was the guy in upper 1 that dropped his glasses over the railing he decided to lean over and grab them by stepping on a part of the queue railing which then under his weight snapped. he lost his balance fell over the railing hit the tarp below bounced off of it and landed in the water at no mans.. meanwhile his family is upstairs looking down laughing at him..he said he was ok and refused to see the nurse his family waited in the whole line laughed at him as they got on the boat and enjoyed a trip through the jungle while he was left standing soaking wet with jungle water at the unload dock.. he was lucky that the boat in no mans just moved up to load or he would of been in a lot of pain... that was good times

[kutisusie]

My favorite: Somehow, kids knees always grow after they get into the queue at Dumbo. I can't tell you the number of times I rescued stuck Toddlers.

[Zazu]

My favorite: Somehow, kids knees always grow after they get into the queue at Dumbo. I can't tell you the number of times I rescued stuck Toddlers.
Fences at the WDW Railroad stations at Frontierland and Toontown are also great knee traps. We used to have a steel stantion at Frontierland to bust apart the wooden pales, but they took it away from us. Won't even let us keep suntan lotion to help lube the legs.

Current Official Policy is to call for a paramedic/rescue squad each time it happens. The hope is that once the expense for paramedic runs gets high enough, upper management will finally authorize new fencing.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/galaxystrike/smilies/123.gif Could be worse, at least we don't have to kill anybody to make a change.

[Teddykeiko86]

One time some kid got his head suck in the iron fence at Backdraft ( outside int e queue). Even better, he was stuck on the stationary part of the fence, but there was a rolling gate to allow trucks and stuff in after closing. Well, if anyone was to roll the gate, little Caleb would be decapitated (or something). So yeah, we called the on lot FD.

[Disneyguy85]

A year or two ago, I was standing in line for Haunted Mansion right outside the front porch, and some kids (pre-teens, I think) were sitting on the chains up ahead of me, I didn't pay much attention but before I knew it I heard a snap sound and the next thing I knew, they were on the ground. the CM nearby said something like "That's why you don't sit on them" and I remember clapping and saying something to the kids like "Nice". I don't think they heard me, but some people ahead of me laughed.

[Pinkisweet]

^ That's what they get. They know not to sit on those things, they won't hold up weight well. If I were a guest, I would have laughed too.

[felinefan]

When I worked at Knott's, on the Calico R.R., I swear they got worse and worse about the chain across the queue that was used when we had a concert on the stage in Ghost Town. They would climb over it, unhook it thinking that was the way to get in, or sit on it. This despite the fact that there was a sign on it saying it was not an entrance--but you know how it is with guests and signs.
At first, only occaisonally someone would mistake the chain for the entrance and attempt to climb over it. Then we had people in queue sitting on it, then people trying to enter the queue--despite a sign over the depot door saying "Enter", a big green portable sign that said "Enter", positioned so it in effect pointed to the door, and the ride rules sign right by the door, which also marks it as being the entrance. But people would actually get dumber and dumber, and they kept sitting on the chain. One day, it ripped right out of the side of the depot wall, and we had to call maintenence to fix it.
I swear, if people get any dumber, we'll have to water them twice a week.

[Shorty82]

I swear, if people get any dumber, we'll have to water them twice a week.

Hey, now! Don't insult plants, most plants are smarter than the average SG!

[turkeyham]

If you thought handrails and chains are bad, I was walking to the exit of Splash Mountain and I saw a father letting his 2 younger kids climb up the rocks to a area that was over 10 feet off the ground. If the kids were to fall, SG dad would be at full blame.:mad:

[Disneyguy85]

Hey, now! Don't insult plants, most plants are smarter than the average SG!

Hmmm...
That's probably true.

[felinefan]

It's a line from Weird Al's "Genius in France". What would you suggest instead? Dumber than a box of hair? Couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel? :D:

[DLRFantasmic!Dan]

If you thought handrails and chains are bad, I was walking to the exit of Splash Mountain and I saw a father letting his 2 younger kids climb up the rocks to a area that was over 10 feet off the ground. If the kids were to fall, SG dad would be at full blame.:mad:

Or the parents that let their children walk on the walls that is five feet off the ground. Even if they are holding their hands. If the children go down, the parents go down with them, too!!

[pinktink]

One day when we were visiting the Moraco pavilion in Epcot we saw the strangest thing. There was a kid about 7-8 years old in the little fountain in the center of the pavilion dancing around in it and splashing. We then noticed the mother had him on one of those kid leashes. Mom is talking in a different language to another person ignoring the child while he licked the dirty bowl in the center of the fountain and drinking the water. I had to sit down just to watch other peoples reactions which were priceless.

[GaTechGal]

So this is not handrail or chains related, but that last story reminded me of a cute story when my DD was little. She and her buddy were out playing in his backyard after a big rain storm. When I called her in for bed, they came running out front covered head to toe in mud. I mean mud EVERY WHERE. So we go up and I pop her in the tub and as I was scrubbing her I asked if they were making mud pies in the backyard. "No, drinking chocolate milk" was the answer I got. :eek: Icky icky icky. Fortunately she didn't end up with worms.

[turkeyham]

I have been in line for the Garget's Go Coaster in Toontown. This family in front of us was letting their kids climb up on the walls. All they way through the line, I kept on hearing, please remain off the rocks, trees, poles and fences. When it came time for the family to ride, security was there to walk them out of the park for failing to listen to a cast member's safety speil. If your kid does not belong up there, don't let them up their.:twisted:

[Disneyguy85]

When it came time for the family to ride, security was there to walk them out of the park for failing to listen to a cast member's safety speil. If your kid does not belong up there, don't let them up their.:twisted:

Yes! There is justice in the world after all!

[Pinkisweet]

If you thought handrails and chains are bad, I was walking to the exit of Splash Mountain and I saw a father letting his 2 younger kids climb up the rocks to a area that was over 10 feet off the ground. If the kids were to fall, SG dad would be at full blame.:mad:

Of course, they would blame Disney...ugh, some parents just shouldn't be parents AT ALL. (Putting their kids at risk)

[turkeyham]

I live in a condo complex. Back in August on a hot summer night, there was a bunch of high school kids hanging out onto of the trash bin areas. There are signs saying stay clear of the areas because they are unsafe and you can fall into a dumpster and get hurt. Our security warns the kids. One of the kids laughed at the officer and lost balance and fell in. Teaches them a lesson. I wonder if they had to get several shots and had to take a strong shower?

:twisted:

[hobie16]

Hopefully he landed on something soft, gooey and really stinky. :twisted:

[felinefan]

Got this from another site--wouldn't it be great if everyone who visits the parks had this kind of "drug problem"?

http://www.liveasif.org/view.cgi?type=w&list=20060928002

[GaTechGal]

Got this from another site--wouldn't it be great if everyone who visits the parks had this kind of "drug problem"?

http://www.liveasif.org/view.cgi?type=w&list=20060928002

What a fantasitc link. I'll be sure the share that "drug problem" story with others. Thanks for sharing.:D:

[Theme Park Where]

And then there's this guy(?), who evidentally was doing something they shouldn't have ...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6021933.html

As a disclaimer, I'll say that I hope they can find out who this is so they can let the family know, and we don't know how he (or she) got there so we don't know if it was foul play or an accident or what. It's a truly bizarre story though.

[Big Wallaby]

Wow! No kidding, that's bizarre! If that's an accident, sucks to be him (her?) and their family. If it was foul play, someone committed the perfect crime.

[Zazu]

And then there's this guy(?), who evidentally was doing something they shouldn't have ...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6021933.html

As a disclaimer, I'll say that I hope they can find out who this is so they can let the family know, and we don't know how he (or she) got there so we don't know if it was foul play or an accident or what. It's a truly bizarre story though.Not such a big deal. The old Long Beach Pike had a figure in their funhouse that turned out to be a long-dead human when someone tried to adjust the "mannekin". Don McLean wrote a nice song about him, "The Legend of Andrew Mccrew" (though his real name was Elmer McCurdy). :rip:

Yep, you won't find that kind of entertainment at no Disney park!

[DisneyMom]

Not such a big deal. The old Long Beach Pike had a figure in their funhouse that turned out to be a long-dead human when someone tried to adjust the "mannekin". Don McLean wrote a nice song about him, "The Legend of Andrew Mccrew" (though his real name was Elmer McCurdy). :rip:

Yep, you won't find that kind of entertainment at no Disney park!

Hmmmmm, you mean the skeletons at Pirates aren't the bones of SGs who perished at the Parks?;)

[felinefan]

I remember reading about a similar case to Elmer. This was a figure that was in a movie props department for who knows how long, and one day one of the arms came off. A prop man tried to glue it back on, only to discover that it was a human mummy. When the body was examined, they found a couple of puzzling things--the autopsy incision was X-shaped, instead of the Y-shaped incision used in America; the body had also been embalmed with arsenic, which is illegal here. Both the incision and embalming method pointed to Europe as the source of the body, but I don't know if they ever found out who he was.

From what little there is in the story, I think it may have been either a case of someone trying to scale the rock wall (get in for free, or just wanted to scale a rock wall--any rock wall), or a murder, and the body dumped. I don't think the corpse would've been smelled necessarily by guests, but I wonder if anyone noticed if there were more than the usual number of crows or other birds that feed on carrion in that area while the body was there? Or if the park had more than the usual number of flies and/or beetles that also feed on corpses. Sorry if I gross anyone out, but those are the facts. The way forensic medicine is advancing, it might be awhile before they identify him (most likely it's a guy), but from there, they can trace family, friends and associates. From there they can put together a motive, and eventually find the killer. Unless, of course, it was an accident, which should be determined by the injuries that are bound to be in the skeleton.

[mechurchlady]

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/mccurdy.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmer_McCurdy

http://www.sideshowworld.com/tgodmummy.html

His mother was 17 and pregnant probably by a cousin, he was raised by an aunt and uncle who died then his mother moved in, he could not find work and finally messed up several times as a robber.

The last link is very detailed with a picture.

WARNING CONTAINS GRAPHIC (you may want to puke) DEAD GUY PICTURES
http://www.hbo.com/autopsy/episode/episode_2_funhouse_dummy.html

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Thanks for the links, Churchy. I remember reading about that it in the newspaper when they discovered the body at the Pike.

[felinefan]

Looks like I was talking about the same guy. But remember, 30+ years is a long time to remember the details....

I didn't think the pictures were puke-worthy. But then again, since my earliest interests in life were anatomy/medicine and archaeology, I'm used to seeing mummified bodies. I agree--the undertaker did a great job on him.

[DisneyMom]

Looks like I was talking about the same guy. But remember, 30+ years is a long time to remember the details....

I didn't think the pictures were puke-worthy. But then again, since my earliest interests in life were anatomy/medicine and archaeology, I'm used to seeing mummified bodies. I agree--the undertaker did a great job on him.

I read that they used arsenic(now illegal) to preserve the body, apparently it does a great job:eek:

[mechurchlady]

http://waterindustry.org/arsenic-3.htm

It is estimated that there could be hundreds of pounds of arsenic in any large cemetary. Once the coffin decays the body leaches into the water and causes pollution in the ecosystem. Read the article and it was an Ameirican practice until world war one. Cemetery workers and archeologist risk arsenic poisoning. It was stopped because of health issues for workers around embalmed bodies and because it made autopsy not come out right.

[felinefan]

Arsenic is one of those poisons you don't want to use if you're going to poison somebody, because no matter how old the body, first off it preserves the evidence, and secondly it can be recovered from the remains, no matter how long they've been buried. Arsenic, in fact, is/was used to treat syphilis (in non-lethal doses, of course!), and used to be used in wallpaper paste. I remember reading in Ripley's Believe It Or Not! that a concerned man came up with a book of wallpaper samples, all pasted into the book with arsenic-based wallpaper paste, and titled it "Walls of Death." It brought to light the hazards of arsenic in the paperhanging trade, and led to its being removed from the paste.

[disneyaddict]

...Arsenic, in fact, is/was used to treat syphilis (in non-lethal doses, of course!), and used to be used in wallpaper paste.

Isn't that what they think led to Napoleon's death? (The arsenic in the wallpaper paste in his home after he was exiled) Or maybe that was some other world leader. I don't have all my history facts straight, so I can never be too sure...I think it was Napoleon though.

[Syndrome]

Gack, the kid in the fountain reminds me of my brother. I am 10 years younger than him but still heard the family legends. When he was little, he used to LICK FENCES!! Ugh!! I have no idea why my mother didn't stop him except that...well, let's just say she wasn't Mom of the Year material by any means. He finally quit it when he got Trench Mouth, whatever that is.

[hobie16]

He finally quit it when he got Trench Mouth, whatever that is.
Acute necrotizing ulcerative gingivitis (ANUG) is a polymicrobial infection of the gums leading to inflammation, bleeding, deep ulceration and necrotic gum tissue. Symptoms include fever and halitosis.
http://www.ohiohealth.com/mayo/images/inline/de6_trenchmouth.jpg
http://www.doctorspiller.com/images/OralAnatomy/ANUGThumb.jpg

[turkeyham]

When I was at WDW on vacation, I did see allot of the kids sucking on the railings and chains. I hate to inform the parents that the items are not candy.:twisted:

[GaTechGal]

When I was at WDW on vacation, I did see allot of the kids sucking on the railings and chains. I hate to inform the parents that the items are not candy.:twisted:

SO does this make anyone think of that scene in Elf where Santa is telling Buddy about the gum stuck on the railings in NYC? Always hate that part.

[disneyaddict]

http://www.ohiohealth.com/mayo/images/inline/de6_trenchmouth.jpg
http://www.doctorspiller.com/images/OralAnatomy/ANUGThumb.jpg

Wow, thanks for the lovely visuals! :gross:



SO does this make anyone think of that scene in Elf where Santa is telling Buddy about the gum stuck on the railings in NYC? Always hate that part.

Aw, that's my favorite part! That, and the revolving door...he's such a genius! :D:

[felinefan]

I foolishly forgot to get the full link on this, but if you Google the Museum of London, do a search for teeth or dental problems. They have an exhibit of teeth, etc. that they've excavated from various sites around Britain, and let's just say it's not too hard to see why the average life expectancy of the various pre-modern eras was under 50. The oldest teeth are worn down from a rough diet, the more recent teeth have huge cavities, abcesses and incredible amounts of tartar from a softer diet and the result of lifting duties on sugar. Be sure to brush and floss twice a day, and see your dentist twice a year, kids. If you think modern Britons have yucky teeth, these are worse!

[turkeyham]

Today I was walking along the Rivers of America. There was this SG couple. The dude had a camera and was taking a picture of his gf balancing her butt on the tiny railing. I was hopping she would had fallen in. It would make a good picture.:twisted:

[Disneyguy85]

Today I was walking along the Rivers of America. There was this SG couple. The dude had a camera and was taking a picture of his gf balancing her butt on the tiny railing.

Man, is there no end to how dense people can be??

[SmallWorldGuy76]

Today I was walking along the Rivers of America. There was this SG couple. The dude had a camera and was taking a picture of his gf balancing her butt on the tiny railing. I was hopping she would had fallen in. It would make a good picture.:twisted:

:twisted:ROTFLMAO! That would be HILARIOUS to capture! Boy, I miss those days telling kids not to swing on the chains at Small World. Of course, no one listened and paid the price!

[felinefan]

Too bad they won't let you set up cameras to catch SGs paying the price for their stupidity. You could sell the footage to America's Funniest Home Videos and get some extra money that way.;)

[Elena (aka: Bubble Lady)]

ok, so we're in the last bit of line waiting to get onto the subs and there's a gal with a baby probably about 18-20 months old...she's holding him with his butt on the rail facing away from her...a cm walks by and says "please take him off the rail it's not safe for him to be there" and walks away...so what does this woman do with her precious baby? does she take him off the rail and hold him? does she take him off the rail and let him stand next to her while she holds his little hand? no, no, no...none of these things...she simply turns him around and plunks his little butt back down on the rail facing her...i just couldn't believe it...i turned to the person behind me in my group and said "didn't the cm just ask her to remove her child from the railing?" "yes," replied my guest, "i guess she's just waiting for him to fall off by himself so she can make a claim against disney for having dangerous railings"

[Disneyguy85]

ok, so we're in the last bit of line waiting to get onto the subs and there's a gal with a baby probably about 18-20 months old...she's holding him with his butt on the rail facing away from her...a cm walks by and says "please take him off the rail it's not safe for him to be there" and walks away...so what does this woman do with her precious baby? does she take him off the rail and hold him? does she take him off the rail and let him stand next to her while she holds his little hand? no, no, no...none of these things...she simply turns him around and plunks his little butt back down on the rail facing her...i just couldn't believe it...

I really hate most people.

Because this isn't just a stupid guest, they are also a stupid person in general.

And society is full of them.

[felinefan]

They should make those chains break away under 10 pounds of pressure, accompanied by a recording saying, "Now will you keep your arse off the rails/chains? If you get hurt, you have nobody but yourself to blame. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!"

[Disneyguy85]

They should make those chains break away under 10 pounds of pressure, accompanied by a recording saying, "Now will you keep your arse off the rails/chains? If you get hurt, you have nobody but yourself to blame. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!"

That would be nice.

Its still beyond me why anyone would think that the chains could support their weight. I mean, its not like they are made of gold!
And even if they don't break, there is always the good chance that the person sitting on them could swing backwards and fall. Especially if they are not keeping still.

Ah well, once a SG, always a SG...

I'll tell you all the truth, it really scares me how stupid people can be.

[turkeyham]

Last night my sister and I were at the Barona Hotel and Casino. If you are coming from the convention center to the main casino lobby, there is a circulare revilving door. Last night I was a bunch of little kids runing in circles in this door. The parents were not there to supervise them. :eek:

[Disneyguy85]

...The parents were not there to supervise them. :eek:


Typical. :rolleyes:

[GaTechGal]

That would be nice.

I mean, its not like they are made of gold!


Actually if they were made of gold they would be MORE likely to break (or be stolen)