Got Smacked By The Race Card...

[beaker328]

08-02-09..Was having a nice night at work. Early in the evening saw a Sheriff's deputy order 3 guys off the train for jumping over the gate. To finish up my night was sent to the Contemporary where it was nice and quiet until :::: the train pulls in the station and i had a special to board. I went to the car and told the family in there they would have to vacate the car as I had a wheelcar to put on.....The males response" Who's disabled..I don't see anyone"..I pointed to the wheelchair sitting right in front of the door. They starting shouting that they had the car. I told them numerous times the train would'nt leave the station. I finally got them out of the car and took them to car 2 where they refused to enter because some of them would be in the front of the car and some in the back.Try to figure that out. As they started back up front the woman....oh by the way, this family are black, turned to me and loudly said "YOU ARE A RACIST"..I told her I wasn't and that they could split up into other cars. She again called me a racist and at this time I yelled at her to not play that card with me as I wasn't gonna take it. They got back in the car and closed up their strollers which they wouldn't do earlier, and I put the ramp down.As the chair finally got into the car the lady leans out the door and loudly calls me a "RACIST BASTARD". I know Disney's policy and I thought ok, let's get the manager who is standing by the cab 6 doors. His remedy is to put me on in the cab and let me cool down. At base I pointed out the family and he said he would watch to make sure they left ??????
I had to write a report and that was all that was done..Amazing that I didn't do physical harm to that person. I have mellowed

[MyLittleAngels]

Funny how trash always plays the race card when they're not getting their way. It's an insult to the rest of their race when they act in such a manner. I'm sorry your manager wasn't more supportive ... Is there a protocol for dealing with that sort of BS?

It's always the most racist people who feel the need to bring up race, in any event.

Reminds me of living in New Orleans .. they decided to finally act on a 30 year old ruling to even out the races in the schools. Only, they didn't want to consider the needs of the Latin, Asian, or Indians .... they were only concerned with black and white.

[DisneyMom]

Very Childish of them, but probably best to let them go away before they got violent. I can't handle people yelling, myself:o:
I wonder if explaining that you were upholding the Americans with Disabilities
Act guaranteeing Equal Access would mean anything to them:rolleyes:

[Honda Enoch]

Amazing how when they don't get their way "you are racist" but if they want special treatment then "Hey I am black, give me...."


(Note, I am not saying all are like that)

[Lasolimu]

Amazing how when they don't get their way "you are racist" but if they want special treatment then "Hey I am black, give me...."


(Note, I am not saying all are like that)

Right, just the ones with enough of a superiority complex to pull the race card in the first place. These also seem to be the same ones who believe that if you are part of a minority that you can't be racist, which is a very racist stance.

[SpeedFreak]

I've had a similar situation once. Was putting a family onto a Monorail bout a month ago and there were 3 chairs in car 4, so I chose the least crowded end of car 3 to load into. Well, after a bit of "convincing" I got them out of the car, and they saw a powerchair on the other side of the gate. So they saw a white guy in a powerchair (who was pin trading, and got off of the last monorail), and they started getting mad. So they walk up to me as I put down the ramp, and just as they are about to start calling me racist (other than muttering it), the wheelchair I was loading rolled up, along with the special's 12-13 relatives. Big relatives, too.

They walked to car 2 and got in. I guess it's hard to go through calling somebody racist when the group replacing you is also black... and outnumber you 3 to one.:D:

Only time I've every heard somebody call me racist though, so I understand how insulting it is for a guest to naturally assume that. If they had been nicer, had a GAC, or honestly just needed to stay there I would have let them. I've put specials in car #2 before, but I refuse to go out of my way and further burden another cast member just to appease somebody with an attitude.

Anyway, yes it is a rant but I think I got the message through.

[Big Wallaby]

Being at Disney World brings out the best or the worst of people. I've decided you can really see peoples' character by how they behave here, more than anywhere else in the world.

You can tell what a guest thinks of the people the work with, work for, work around, their customers, etc. by how they treat other guests and us.

You can also tell what a Cast Member is truly like as they transfer. If they are busy wishing everyone around them well, they are either a) genuine, or b) completely fake and must think there is someone they are working with worth sucking up to. You can tell which is which. I am watching one person transferring out who has decided that now that s/he has been accepted to Position X, s/he is just too good for the rest of us. It shows. Where before you said hi and got a response, now it is often a "harrumph." I don't understand that.

Unfortunately, if people are at all prone to pull the race, sexual orientation, religion, disability or other class cards, you know they are going to do it at Disney World. I don't understand why, in this day and age, people can't just be human beings. That is all I see when I look at other people, human beings, wonderfully flawed like me. How do you look down your nose on another person because of anything? It's not natural to look at another human being and see something other than a human being. Just watch kids on the playground: Unless they've been trained otherwise, while skin color may come up, it will be as a curiosity and juvenile appreciation, not the racism that must be learned to be practiced.

I hope we can move beyond that by the time the next generation starts growing up.

And now this SGT preacher steps off his soapbox.

[BRWombat]

Being at Disney World brings out the best or the worst of people. I've decided you can really see peoples' character by how they behave here, more than anywhere else in the world.

You can tell what a guest thinks of the people the work with, work for, work around, their customers, etc. by how they treat other guests and us.

You can also tell what a Cast Member is truly like as they transfer. If they are busy wishing everyone around them well, they are either a) genuine, or b) completely fake and must think there is someone they are working with worth sucking up to. You can tell which is which. I am watching one person transferring out who has decided that now that s/he has been accepted to Position X, s/he is just too good for the rest of us. It shows. Where before you said hi and got a response, now it is often a "harrumph." I don't understand that.

Unfortunately, if people are at all prone to pull the race, sexual orientation, religion, disability or other class cards, you know they are going to do it at Disney World. I don't understand why, in this day and age, people can't just be human beings. That is all I see when I look at other people, human beings, wonderfully flawed like me. How do you look down your nose on another person because of anything? It's not natural to look at another human being and see something other than a human being. Just watch kids on the playground: Unless they've been trained otherwise, while skin color may come up, it will be as a curiosity and juvenile appreciation, not the racism that must be learned to be practiced.

I hope we can move beyond that by the time the next generation starts growing up.

And now this SGT preacher steps off his soapbox.Preach on, Wallaby, preach on!

[Syndrome]

As they started back up front the woman....oh by the way, this family are black, turned to me and loudly said "YOU ARE A RACIST
I would have said, "Yes, I am. Now get your ass in the BACK of the monorail, Rosa."

(No offense to anyone intended...I just couldn't help it.)

[Honda Enoch]

I would have said, "Yes, I am. Now get your ass in the BACK of the monorail, Rosa."

(No offense to anyone intended...I just couldn't help it.)


Sorry but I fell out of my chair laughing at this one. :p:

when I was in middle school this one girl got ticked one day. she was always the last stop to be picked up on the way to school, so by the time she got on the bus was about full. most the kids loaded front to back so this girl always got the last seat in the back. she was black and one day she went to the office to complain saying the bus driver took that route on purpose just to make her sit in the back. It was funny to hear them explain to her the route is planned by the transportation board and they have no idea of knowing the race of the student, that she lived closest to the school so she was last pick up and first drop off. LOL

[hobie16]

We live up a hill. As the school buses are kinda wheezy, she's always the first picked up and the last to be dropped off. She considers it a social hour.

[SpeedFreak]

I remember the bus ride to high school well. The "cool" kids sat at the very back, freshies at the front. As your social status changed, you would be effectively moved up or down the bus. I always thought it odd that the seniors would think they are cool riding the bus while I (and a few others I know) were driving to school by the 10th grade. As a matter of fact, I only ever rode the bus when the Z was "down" and I didn't have time to gas up the Vette.

Funny part though, is that if you send that family to the back, it is also the front. Could have some fun confusing them there...

[Main Streeter]

Missed out on all school bus fun. My Mom wouldn't allow me to ride a bus. Fought this @ first, then realized how lucky I was not to have to get up in the early a.m. dark & cold mornings. Guess I missed social hrs. though. ;)

[DisneyMom]

Missed out on all school bus fun. My Mom wouldn't allow me to ride a bus. Fought this @ first, then realized how lucky I was not to have to get up in the early a.m. dark & cold mornings. Guess I missed social hrs. though. ;)

They have cameras installed on our local school and city buses. That way, they can review them to see who started the fires.:eek:
Not exaggerating.
Don't think you missed much, MS!;)

[Main Streeter]

Don't think you missed much, MS!;)No, am positive I didn't DisneyMom. Mom was a teacher. She knew I was an instigator. :eek: I assume I didn't ride school bus to protect Her reputation.

[hobie16]

I remember the bus ride to high school well. The "cool" kids sat at the very back, freshies at the front. As your social status changed, you would be effectively moved up or down the bus. I always thought it odd that the seniors would think they are cool riding the bus while I (and a few others I know) were driving to school by the 10th grade. As a matter of fact, I only ever rode the bus when the Z was "down" and I didn't have time to gas up the Vette.

Funny part though, is that if you send that family to the back, it is also the front. Could have some fun confusing them there...

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[Honda Enoch]

Missed out on all school bus fun. My Mom wouldn't allow me to ride a bus. Fought this @ first, then realized how lucky I was not to have to get up in the early a.m. dark & cold mornings. Guess I missed social hrs. though. ;)

My bus came by my stop twice since i was on the main road it would go to the furthest stop and work it's way back to the school. so I had a choice to get to the stop at 5:30am or wait till 7:15am. I always made myself get the 5:30 time that way if I woke up and didn't feel like it I knew I had a 2nd chance for the 7:15. But it was nice being on the bus at 5:30 nice and dark and quiet, I always sat right behind the driver, We had a cool driver.

[darph nader]

I'm sure I mentoined I got smacked with the race card. "You hate Mexicans." Good luck on that one shithead.

[felinefan]

I wish I didn't have to take the school bus when I was in school, especially after like 5th grade. I was always getting picked on, and in high school, beaten up on. The troublemakers sat in the back, and God help you if those were the only seats available.
My mom used to say she and her siblings used to have to walk to school, because they were in town. The school buses were for the kids out in the boonies. During the Depression and especially during WWII, not everyone had a car. My great grandfather didn't learn to drive until 65, took him that long to get the money together to buy a car and have lessons. My grandfather inherited the car a few years later after greatgrandpa died (of a heart attack, not while driving). I assume Dad learned to drive while he was in the army.
While I was in high school, they taught you how to drive for free; now they make you take driving instruction from a driving school.

[GuestJockey]

I see the race card pulled WAY too often at DL. Everything's because of race. Minnie Mouse went inside when my kid was next in line because my kid's Hispanic. We asked for the front row and they said they already had someone waiting for the front, but I know it was really because we're black. I just laugh at them when they come into City Hall. I can't wait until Tiana is in the parks for meet-n-greets. It'll get ugly.

[Tinker Bell]

Ugh! I was telling a person at work a tale about how someone who also pulled the race card on me. She laughs and says that she does the same thing (she's black) even when she knows that it is probably not the reason. It reminds me of the boy who cried wolf, until nobody believed him. Don't they know they are headed in that direction?

Big Wallaby that was perfect!

[Cheshire Figment]

Never, ever, rode a school bus, even a short one.

Elementary and Junior high were just a few blocks from where I lived. And for high school I would take the subway.

[Big Wallaby]

I have driven just about every kind of school bus you can think of.

On my high school route, it was so much fun to watch the kids get on and duck down so they wouldn't be seen. I had the kids that knew their parents had money and didn't have to send them by bus but did anyway.

I did have a couple that would talk to me, and when my bus, 7447, was in shop, they would ask where it was.

I had my thugs, too. One would sit in the very back seat, and if I was at a stop and he heard my horn, he would stick his finger out the window at the driver. If there was a fight, he would break it up. If someone was causing trouble, his eyes would be glued to me until I gave him the nod and then found something very interesting outside the bus.

Good times. But I am glad I am not doing that anymore.

And for everyone that's ever been on or driven a school bus, I think I was the Railroad King. Between my routes and Swim Shuttles in Tualatin, OR, I crossed railroad tracks 28 times a day.

There was a time that I took a trip into Vancouver, WA, came back and picked them up that night. On the way, I got a little lost and found myself crossing a railroad yard, with trains going EVERYWHERE. I literally couldn't stop without being on a set of tracks. To this day, I can't find where I was on a map. There's gotta be a colloquialism in there somewhere. "Yup, I was as scared as a school bus driver driving across a busy railroad yard!"

[mickeyjohn]

I have notest that people who use the race card are people who are not getting there way. Have any of you notest that in life people could use it choose not to?

[Whazzup]

I have driven just about every kind of school bus you can think of.

On my high school route, it was so much fun to watch the kids get on and duck down so they wouldn't be seen. I had the kids that knew their parents had money and didn't have to send them by bus but did anyway.

I did have a couple that would talk to me, and when my bus, 7447, was in shop, they would ask where it was.

I had my thugs, too. One would sit in the very back seat, and if I was at a stop and he heard my horn, he would stick his finger out the window at the driver. If there was a fight, he would break it up. If someone was causing trouble, his eyes would be glued to me until I gave him the nod and then found something very interesting outside the bus.

Good times. But I am glad I am not doing that anymore.

And for everyone that's ever been on or driven a school bus, I think I was the Railroad King. Between my routes and Swim Shuttles in Tualatin, OR, I crossed railroad tracks 28 times a day.

There was a time that I took a trip into Vancouver, WA, came back and picked them up that night. On the way, I got a little lost and found myself crossing a railroad yard, with trains going EVERYWHERE. I literally couldn't stop without being on a set of tracks. To this day, I can't find where I was on a map. There's gotta be a colloquialism in there somewhere. "Yup, I was as scared as a school bus driver driving across a busy railroad yard!"

Hi Wallaby! My Dad used to drive school bus in Portland. Can't remember what neighborhood it was in, but I remember riding with him a few times when I didn't have school for one reason or another. It was fun to observe the kids on the bus and how they interacted with each other and my Dad. That was back when kids mostly respected adults just because the adults acted like adults and were in charge, although my Dad was a big kid himself and used to joke around with the kids and knew them all by name.

My Dad's route was semi-rural and there was a turnaround at the end of a long dead-end road. He'd have to maneuver the bus around, then back up until the end of the bus was hanging over this steep incline, then pull forward into the road and proceed driving. It was fun to sit in the back seat and look out over the "abyss" and wonder if the brakes were gonna hold. In 7th grade we had a bus driver who was mean and nobody would dare talk or cut up on his bus or he would jump up and get in your face and tell you to SIT DOWN AND BE QUIET! Too bad they can't do that anymore. The students would complain to their parents who would immediately march to the school and demand to see the principal and insist their little darlings be apologized to for having to endure some verbal discipline.

[Sarah Magdalene]

I have notest that people who use the race card are people who are not getting there way. Have any of you notest that in life people could use it choose not to?

You bring up a good point!

[Syndrome]

I just love this dialogue from the original Harold & Kumar movie. The title characters, who are both ethnic but not black, are tossed into jail by a bigoted cop, where they meet a black guy in the same cell:

Harold: So what are you in here for?

Jackson: For being black.

Harold: Seriously?

Jackspn: I am serious. You wanna know what happened? I was walking out of a Barnes & Noble, and a cop stops me. Evidently a black guy robbed a store in Newark. I told him, "I haven't even been to Newark in months." So he starts beating me with his gun, telling me to stop resisting arrest.

Harold: Holy shit, what'd you do?

Jackson: I kept saying, "I understand I'm under arrest. Now please stop beating me."

Harold: I don't understand how you can be so calm about all this.

Jackson: Look at me. I'm fat, black, can't dance, and I have two gay fathers. People have been messing with me my whole life. I learned a long time ago there's no sense getting all riled up every time a bunch of idiots give you a hard time. In the end, the universe tends to unfold as it should. Plus I have a really large penis. That keeps me happy.

[TechieSidhe]

I learned a long time ago there's no sense getting all riled up every time a bunch of idiots give you a hard time. In the end, the universe tends to unfold as it should.

I like that.

[deathcomesarippin]

I had this happened one time to me (but at a different park) nobody said anything about race but im pretty sure thats what this guy was implying on me.

it was a crowded day at busch gardens (Tampa Fl) and the cm on the loading side loaded the coaster and we cheked all the lap bars. A (black) family was at the exit and said they had passes to get thru. I said in a nice tone of voice ''ill get you on the next one, this one is already loaded and ready to go'' after I unloaded the coaster (3 minutes later) and I let in the family of 6, the dad gets up in my face with his stank breath and tells me ''ive been here before and i know how things work around here, I dont need you making a scene and trying to tell us what to do'' which I just said ''im just doing my job and heres your seats.'' after I unloaded them I heard one of them say along the lines of it was that white boy who did it or something, and its was a kids voice!. and btw me a whitey in downtown Tampa Florida, guess who the minorty is...

btw for the record im not racist

[Saint March]

That's a form of assualt in my opinion. I would have pressed charges. People making false claims like that also make it so difficult for the people who really ARE victims of racism, and that's sad. Boy who cried wolf....

[Saint March]

I have driven just about every kind of school bus you can think of.

On my high school route, it was so much fun to watch the kids get on and duck down so they wouldn't be seen. I had the kids that knew their parents had money and didn't have to send them by bus but did anyway.

I did have a couple that would talk to me, and when my bus, 7447, was in shop, they would ask where it was.

I had my thugs, too. One would sit in the very back seat, and if I was at a stop and he heard my horn, he would stick his finger out the window at the driver. If there was a fight, he would break it up. If someone was causing trouble, his eyes would be glued to me until I gave him the nod and then found something very interesting outside the bus.

Good times. But I am glad I am not doing that anymore.

And for everyone that's ever been on or driven a school bus, I think I was the Railroad King. Between my routes and Swim Shuttles in Tualatin, OR, I crossed railroad tracks 28 times a day.

There was a time that I took a trip into Vancouver, WA, came back and picked them up that night. On the way, I got a little lost and found myself crossing a railroad yard, with trains going EVERYWHERE. I literally couldn't stop without being on a set of tracks. To this day, I can't find where I was on a map. There's gotta be a colloquialism in there somewhere. "Yup, I was as scared as a school bus driver driving across a busy railroad yard!"

I Salute you sir LOL I think I would have a nervous breakdown if I ever had to drive a bus. At least on the monorails there are parents there to keep the kids reasonably in order (in theory anyway LOL).

I remmeber in high school when my best friend got his license. They had an extra vehicle so he was allowed to dirve to school, and came clear across town to pick me up (even though he lvied not far from the school.) Happiest days of my life! Let me tell you... to not have to ride the bus anymore!

[whopper_49]

My hat is off to all you brave folks who have delivered students to institutes of learning. I have retired from 31 years of teaching and there are only three things I would have to be destitute to try:
Band instructor - You have to love music to do ther same thing over and over.
Building Trades instructor - Teenaged boys, power tools, places to hide, and deliver a fininshed product.
Bus Driver - Just riding the bus as advisor or coach made me realize the awesome responsibilty required.

I always enjoy the bus rides to the parks and back and miss the driver interactions. Keep up the good work.

[February]

One of the worst jobs I've ever had was selling children's shoes at an upscale department store. It was bad on so many levels.

One day after my manager abandoned me to go gossip and shop (again) I was so swamped and the only one there. There was a woman who wandered in, looked at a shoe (had no child with her), and I greeted her and said I'd help her out as soon as I could but that I had several customers ahead, was there alone and was going as fast as I could. If she'd had a simple question to ask she could've asked it and I'd have answered while I was fitting the other customers' child for shoes.

She left.

She came back awhile later, and I still had a bunch of people there to wait on. She had not waited around, or waited 'in line' so to speak the first time she'd come by and so I assumed she was just browsing some more. Being neck deep in customers, and being again she didn't ask me any questions when I acknowledged she was there, next thing I knew I looked up and she was gone again.

The next day, my manager tells me that the manager of the entire store had talked to her that morning, received a complaint that I'd ignored a customer because of her race. I said that I wouldn't do that, that I was swamped (which my manager already knew because she had seen the receipts and knew she'd left me on my own to suffer while she got a makeover in cosmetics- on the clock).

As I began to protest, she raised her hand and said "Don't worry, Mr. so and so doesn't even want to talk to you about this. He knew it was her problem, in fact, he said, 'if it was anyone else in this place except for (my name here) he'd have believed it'.

Truth was, there was a terrible problem with racism in that store and I for one had worked very hard to do my best to show that I was against it- offending many of my coworkers but I wasn't going to cry a single tear over that. I can't abide bigots.

I never heard another word about it but I do know that my manager talked to the rest of the employees to remind them to be sure all customers were being given equal treatment (it was a lesson she was the first one who needed to learn).

When the whole stock department on the dock (none of whom were a 'minority' by the way...) got fired for robbing the company blind. an African American man was hired to head up the new staff. The first time he came around to my department, you could tell he'd been ignored by everyone in the place.

First thing I did was shake his hand and introduce myself. We had a great working friendship from that day on- and when they delivered heavy crates to my department and I was doing stock, he told all his guys "You never, ever stack Ms. Bru's crates. You always leave them on the floor so she doesn't have to move them."

Every person in stock from the dock did that for me, until the day that I left. They were all great guys, the best people in the whole place to work with. But all the women I worked with looked at them like potential criminals and it just frosted my cookies.

bru

[Syndrome]

The corporation I worked at for many years was founded back in the early 60s and privately held. Thus, even in the 80s and 90s, it had some rather...er, "outdated" policies. It was even sued for discrimintation, and while I thought the terms of the settlement were much too broad, I know that many of the allegations were founded.

After the lawsuit, the workforce thankfully got a little more diverse but the underlying attitude didn't change. I had a black friend, and Mr. Syndrome and I would often go out to dinner with him and his girlfriend. One day I casually mentioned to a co-worker that we were going out with him that night, and she said in shock, "But he's BLACK!" Uh, yeah.....that was a real head shaker for me. I base my friendships on being compatible with people. Race and background has nothing to do with it. When you place those stupid limitations, you cut yourself off from the chance to meet some fun and interesting people.

[hobie16]

The last company I worked for had both a corporate shipping/receiving and a manufacturing shipping/receiving department. Both were pretty much staffed by minorities. A few, based on their tats, had probably seen some jail time.

Because of my job supporting 600 Systems Engineers worldwide, I was always sending something out via one group or the other. Many times it was to cover some crisis a sales bozo had caused.

I'd always spend some time shooting the breeze with them and when I had a training program going, lay some chits for free lunches on them. The first time I did that a couple said, "I've been with the company for X years and my boss has never bought lunch."

Needless to say they took very good care of me whenever I needed something. On my last day I printed off a bunch of lunch chits and handed out an minimum of five to every one of them. I told them they had to use them fast because if accounting caught on they'd pull the plug. They had no problem using them up.

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Hobie, you rock! I wish you were my boss!

[Sarah Magdalene]

It's time for that grand ol song from Avenue Q!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbwNSNLPIfw

Admit it, we ALL have thought this way at one point or another!

As someone commented:

toddmeister168 Says:
What a great message - we're all the same - and when we are being racist we are stereotyping ourselves as well as the target. People who say they have never laughed at a racial stereotype joke are either lying or dead. That doesn't mean we act as racists.

Of course I DON"T encourage racial stereotyping - however, this song teaches us to lighten up a little and concentrate on the deeper issues of entrenched discrimination that does exist in some areas. It's hard to hate while your laughing.

[hobie16]

Hobie, you rock! I wish you were my boss!
I've managed people in the past and have always felt they worked with me not for me. It just seemed like the right way to run things and it usually worked out. I can remember just a couple that took advantage of me for being a soft touch but it didn't change my philosophy.

When I was in the Army Reserve I eventually attained the rank of Sargent First Class. I had a Command Sargent Major that was quite full of himself. He called me in one day and told me most of the guys in my section were in need of haircuts. I told him, "We meet two days out of the month. Their haircuts are not wildly out of line. They have lives the rest of the month and consequently, not only will I not tell them to get haircuts, I refuse to cut my hair any shorter. If ya don't like it, fire me." End of conversation.

This was right around the time that women were finally allowed to move into jobs that weren't clerk/secretary orientated. I got one who would be a Radio Teletype Operator. Pretty technical job.

The ol' CSM decides to hold a orientation for all the new women. When my RTO, Christy, returned she said he asked who everyone was working for. She told him me and he said she had a pretty good boss. Pays off to stand up for your people and yourself.

[pdmedic]

I work in law enforcement and have seen several cases where people have complained of "racism" the last one I investigated as a supervisor and even the complainant agreed that the officer was justified in stopping him for the traffic infraction but it was "racist" and we should cancel the citation. Hopefully he used that argument in court. :D:

[Zazu]

I had a black friend, and Mr. Syndrome and I would often go out to dinner with him and his girlfriend. One day I casually mentioned to a co-worker that we were going out with him that night, and she said in shock, "But he's BLACK!"
I overheard a similar conversation once that included that exact statement, "But he's BLACK!" I still treasure the reply and the person who offered it:

"Yes, but he's only black on the outside. You, by comparison, are black on the inside."

The bigot was so shocked he just stood there with his mouth open as the rest of us in the room silently filed out.

It was a moment to treasure! I *so* wish it had been me who said that.

[Whazzup]

I overheard a similar conversation once that included that exact statement, "But he's BLACK!" I still treasure the reply and the person who offered it:

"Yes, but he's only black on the outside. You, by comparison, are black on the inside."

The bigot was so shocked he just stood there with his mouth open as the rest of us in the room silently filed out.

It was a moment to treasure! I *so* wish it had been me who said that.

Zazu, that was so priceless it brought tears to my eyes! An excellent response to an ignorant bigot.

[elbigvato]

I have retired from 31 years of teaching and there are only three things I would have to be destitute to try:
Band instructor - You have to love music to do the same thing over and over.




It's not the same thing over and over. I'm starting on year 13 (did I really say that? :eek:), and I can tell you that every group is different, and every year is a different show.

I will agree with you that bus drivers are really special people, having to put up with way too much for very little money!

[Big Wallaby]

Folks, I recently found out that Beaker was fired over this incident. Am hopping mad.

[BRWombat]

Folks, I recently found out that Beaker was fired over this incident. Am hopping mad.Grrr. Don't blame you. If it happened like he described it, management should be backing him up. :mad:

[ktulu]

Folks, I recently found out that Beaker was fired over this incident. Am hopping mad.

:/

I don't blame you, that sucks.

[darph nader]

Folks, I recently found out that Beaker was fired over this incident. Am hopping mad.



WHAT? This is such :bsflag:

[hobie16]

After rereading his initial post it appears he got nailed for yelling back at the SG. Sometimes ya gotta grin and bear it.

Too bad he got fired.

[turkeyham]

BW,

Sorry to hear about Beaker. I hope things get better. :)

[mickeyjohn]

That isn't fair that Beaker was fired over something like this. It seems that Disney wants there cast members to be punching bags. Does the golden rule treat people the way you want to be treeted not apply here? If Beaker was fired does that mean the family who started this is band from the park? The answer is probly not. Couldn't Disney ban them for it least a little while? I mean wern't they the ones causing the problem?

[SpeedFreak]

It seems that Disney wants there cast members to be punching bags. Does the golden rule treat people the way you want to be treated not apply here? If Beaker was fired does that mean the family who started this is band from the park?

Yes, no, and no. It's "the customer is always right" taken to an extreme in some cases.

Sucks to hear that he got fired. :(

[Disneyguy85]

Folks, I recently found out that Beaker was fired over this incident. Am hopping mad.

That's terrible! :mad:

[Syndrome]

It's bloody ridiculous! No wonder people act like such a-holes at Disney. They know they can lord it over the CMs heads and threaten to report them. I remember reading in disgust how Disney kissed the butts of those jerks whose son assaulted Tigger and got what he deserved (well, not really...he should have really gotten beaten up). People see that on the news and know they can do whatever they want and not only get away with it but be rewarded for it. Why do I suspect that there were comps involved in this one too?

[Mayonnaise]

OMG. That's just not right.

>8^[

[kurtisnelson]

Anything us paying guests can do about it?
Edit: I realize it probably wouldn't be a good idea to post that here, if someone wants to PM me a post I can post it for them...

[felinefan]

Can't the union reps/shop steward do something? Can't Beaker ask for a hearing in order to state his side? I know you guys are leery of the Florida media right now, but couldn't someone write the editor of the op-ed page about this? Not just one worker, but others, all who have been disciplined or termed over standing up for themselves or doing their jobs. I'd like to see those people who whipped out the race card try to prove that there was racism involved.
If companies keep firing employees on the allegations of guests, vendors, etc., they are not going to have any employees, because word will get around that WDW/DLR is a crappy place to work. Look what happened to Knott's. Same thing. They're having a horrible time keeping people. And management is so bloody clueless they couldn't figure out what's wrong if their lives depended on it.
At a time when everybody is struggling to get a job, or keep the job they have, it's suicide for any business to do things that destroy employee morale. One of these days employers are going to wake up and realize too late if they had treated their employees nicer, backed them up in the face of accusations by guests, etc., they would still have a job. Knott's is a hangout for gangbangers, and people who live too far away to know how much it's changed over the years, and people who I swear just come to spread disease, harass the ROs, shoplift, etc.. If this keeps up, the parks will have to be closed because they'll be spending too much on staff replacements, repairs to damaged property, cleaning up after guests, etc..
Wonder where the psychopaths, sociopaths and just plain crazies would hang out if that happened?

[Malpass93]

Wonder where the psychopaths, sociopaths and just plain crazies would hang out if that happened?

Probably Walt Disney World.

[Lasolimu]

Probably Walt Disney World.

No, the same place, they just won't have to buy a ticket anymore.

[SpeedFreak]

Well I've been reported before, and I'm not termed (yet). I should have gotten a cookie for not throwing the guy down into the beam, but then again there was a monorail in the ay at the time.:D:

[Cheshire Figment]

Well I've been reported before, and I'm not termed (yet). I should have gotten a cookie for not throwing the guy down into the beam, but then again there was a monorail in the ay at the time.:D:
But if you had thrown him on the beam then you probably would have been termed for damaging a monorail.

[darph nader]

But if you had thrown him on the beam then you probably would have been termed for damaging a monorail.

Custodial would have been pissed,for having to clean up the mess. :mad:
Better yet leave the 'stain' with a small sign, "This is what happens when you don't listen to the Castmembers". :twisted:

[kurtisnelson]

Party at the TTC Bus Bar tonight at 5, happy hour.

[JustaMouseLover]

Better yet leave the 'stain' with a small sign, "This is what happens when you don't listen to the Castmembers". :twisted:


Wouldn't work. You know SG's can't read...

[darph nader]

Wouldn't work. You know SG's can't read...

I know that,but someone could read it for them and they just 'might' get a clue. Or not. :(

[Main Streeter]

I know that, but someone could read it for them and they just 'might' get a clue. Or not. :(If only darph. If only.

[SpeedFreak]

I know that,but someone could read it for them and they just 'might' get a clue. Or not. :(

Silly Darph, you know SG's can't comprehend...

[Main Streeter]

Silly DarphSpeed, you address darph much kinder than I have been known to do. Don't spoil him. ;)