There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.

[Driver_dylan]

Today, I found out how stupid people truly can be. At eleven am or so I was just being bumped to my break from the cart at DTD, when a young woman, maybe 22 or 23, stopped me, and very respectfully asked where the designated smoking areas were . Now at DTD, for those of you who don't know, the rules are this, You may smoke in any open space so long as you are not in the child zones. I informed her of this, and she asked if I minded if she sat on the ledge by my cart as her family was shopping in the pin traders location. Both me and the girl giving me my bump said we did not have a problem with this.

Now, no sooner than this poor woman light up and take a puff, some busy body comes over and starts to yell at the woman for smoking in public. Seeing this I turned back tword the woman and told her that the woman with the cig was fine and that I in fact had given her permission to be where she was. Did that stop the woman, nope. With one movement that cought everyone off guard, she grabbed the cigeret right out of the other woman's mouth. Then with a grin she reported that she didn't care, she didn't want to get cancer.

I was dumb founded. I the roles were reversed and I was in the other woman's shoes and some dumb health nut did that to me, I would have gotten up and politely decked them.

[kurtisnelson]

Seeing this I turned back tword the woman and told her that the woman with the cig was fine and that I in fact had given her permission to be where she was. Did that stop the woman, nope. With one movement that cought everyone off guard, she grabbed the cigeret right out of the other woman's mouth.
Security? If you don't want second hand smoke and you are in an area where people are smoking and are allowed to, MOVE!

[CujoSR]

That is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard! If she wanted to bum one she could have just asked. ;)

[darph nader]

When the new 'smoking' law went in affect last year,guess who got to enforce it at work? "US" (security/loss prevention). Within the first week,we had 2 complaints filed against us (the company that is) not the customer on customer b.s. The sad part is,some little kid can be jumping around the inside of their parents car/truck,and TPD won't do shit,unless 'they' see it happen.:eek:

ps,btw,I smoke.

[Big Wallaby]

I so wish the lady who had her cigarette grabbed had claimed assault.

I don't smoke, but that is offensive to me.

[Mayonnaise]

Oh that really was rude... you can't just grab someone else's property and destroy it, (which is essentially what she did to the cig.) She owe's that smoker a pack now or something...

But... given that different states have different smoking laws... I'm playing devils advocate here, is it possible that the person was in violation of the SG's home state/municipality laws, and SG was simply to stupid to realize that your explanation was stating that they were NOT in violation of Florida law, rather than you having given them the OK to go ahead and smoke despite the law?

I'm not saying that would EXCUSE her... by no means, but that it might explain why she would ignore YOU trying to tell her it was ok...

8^S

[Big Wallaby]

But the problem is, it doesn't matter what the laws back home are.

One of the wonderful things about living in the United States is that in some cases, other than say, murder, you can choose your laws by where you live.

Do you support the death penalty? Well, I hear Texas's chamber collects very little dust. Or, on the other hand, you could go with New Jersey that outlawed the death penalty.

Please note, I am not asking you to answer the question of whether you support the death penalty or somoking, or whether you don't; death penalty is a can of worms I opened for example and am closing RIGHT NOW, before it even becomes a question of getting out of hand. Around here, I don't care what you think about it and you don't care about my opinion on it, right? Everyone nod. Good. :D:

So back to my original thought: It doesn't matter what the laws for that lady are back home. In Washington state, you can't smoke within 25' of any door, window, vent, chimney or coughing pig. There, you can't even light up at the local Cigar shop. Whereas I say a bar owner should have the right to decide whether their bar is a smoking establishment, back in Oregon and Washington, they can't. But that is how those states decided the issue, and that is the point that I am attempting to make. Since Florida and Disney allow smoking outside at DTD, the lady taking that cigarette has no leg to stand on.

Since it came up, here is an interesting map (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_United_States)found on Wikipedia. Use its information at your own risk, as it is Wikipedia.

[DisneyMom]

She is lucky she didn't get the crap pounded out of her:rolleyes:
Someone like that should probably be on stronger meds. Of course, I may do the same thing to a camera someday IF I GET FLASHED IN THE EYES one more time on Pirates:mad: Happened again yesterday.

[Big Wallaby]

Of course, I may do the same thing to a camera someday IF I GET FLASHED IN THE EYES one more time on Pirates:mad:

Yes, but there it causes you a physical pain that you can't move away from. In that case, I say don't get the camera or flash wet. If it looks expensive, send it my way. They don't need it.

But do be so kind as to give their SG SD card back, as I don't want it.

On second thought, send that my way, too. Might have something to post here.

[Syndrome]

Good lord! Mind you, if someone lights up in a non-smoking area, I am the first one to tell 'em to put it out. But to lay into someone in an area where it's allowed, and then to grab the cig? Totally, utterly unacceptable. I too think she should have claimed assault. As much of an anti-smoking zealot as I am, I have a chain smoking brother so I do have sympathy for the darkside.

And I'll toss in a marginally on-topic question: Why is it people you're with get embarrassed if you tell people to put out their cig when they're in a non-smoking area? When I lived in IL back in the dark ages of smoking/non-smoking sections, smokers would light up in non on a fairly frequent basis. I'd either get a waitress to tell 'em to knock it off or do it myself if I was close enough. Mr. Syndrome is used to it and would probably tell 'em himself if I didn't first, but at times we were out with friends or family they'd want to crawl into a hole. I never figured out why...I am telling someone to follow the stinking rules. If anyone should be embarrassed, it's the smoker.

[Shorty82]

And I'll toss in a marginally on-topic question: Why is it people you're with get embarrassed if you tell people to put out their cig when they're in a non-smoking area? When I lived in IL back in the dark ages of smoking/non-smoking sections, smokers would light up in non on a fairly frequent basis. I'd either get a waitress to tell 'em to knock it off or do it myself if I was close enough. Mr. Syndrome is used to it and would probably tell 'em himself if I didn't first, but at times we were out with friends or family they'd want to crawl into a hole. I never figured out why...I am telling someone to follow the stinking rules. If anyone should be embarrassed, it's the smoker.

There's some CMs who won't tell somebody they can't smoke where they are because they are afraid of confrontation. I'm not one of them. I politely tell the guest that smoking isn't permitted where they are and point them in the direction of the nearest designated area. Only rarely do they get upset and yell at me about it, usually they'll put out the cigarette and move on.

That's another thing, sometimes I tell them they can't smoke somewhere and then they wonder where they can put it out. I want to tell them "should have thought of that BEFORE you lit up in the first place, because where were you going to dispose of the butt?"

[hobie16]

I want to tell them "should have thought of that BEFORE you lit up in the first place, because where were you going to dispose of the butt?"
That would require "thinking ahead."

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Good lord! Mind you, if someone lights up in a non-smoking area, I am the first one to tell 'em to put it out. But to lay into someone in an area where it's allowed, and then to grab the cig? Totally, utterly unacceptable. I too think she should have claimed assault. As much of an anti-smoking zealot as I am, I have a chain smoking brother so I do have sympathy for the darkside.

And I'll toss in a marginally on-topic question: Why is it people you're with get embarrassed if you tell people to put out their cig when they're in a non-smoking area? When I lived in IL back in the dark ages of smoking/non-smoking sections, smokers would light up in non on a fairly frequent basis. I'd either get a waitress to tell 'em to knock it off or do it myself if I was close enough. Mr. Syndrome is used to it and would probably tell 'em himself if I didn't first, but at times we were out with friends or family they'd want to crawl into a hole. I never figured out why...I am telling someone to follow the stinking rules. If anyone should be embarrassed, it's the smoker.

I think a lot of that comes from the fact that it used to be acceptable to smoke anywhere, and the non-smokers were the minority. I remember when eating establishments and other "public" places came up with the smoking/non smoking sections (like it was gonna stop the smoke at an invisable line!)

Ever check in for a airline flight and they asked you smoking or non-smoking? hehehehehe

and I was a smoker for many years! (had to go cold turkey, totally another story) to this day, whenever I smell someone smoking, it smells soooooo good!!)

[hobie16]

and I was a smoker for many years! (had to go cold turkey, totally another story) to this day, whenever I smell someone smoking, it smells soooooo good!!)
I've always liked the smell of tobacco but when it's burning, bleaaccchhh!!

[Zazu]

That would require "thinking ahead."
Worse, that would require "thinking"!

[joanna71985]

I'm not a big fan of smoking (the smell makes me really sick), but I'm fine with people who go to the smoking location. However, that lady crossed the line. She had no right touching that other guest.

[Cheshire Figment]

When I am working the gates at TL and someone approaches with a cigarette I will politely tell them that smoking is only permitted in designated areas of the Park, provide the person with a map and show them the symbol for the smoking areas, and point them to the only ashtray/smoking area outside the gates.

I have never had any Guest problems with this.

[Big Wallaby]

I've always done the thing of getting on the smoker's side when asking. Actually, I've found it works on *almost* anyone.

"I hate to have to ask this of you, but..."

Works like a charm. Except with that one in a hundred SG.

[little skunk]

There's some CMs who won't tell somebody they can't smoke where they are because they are afraid of confrontation.

I don't think a cast member should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are. Shorty82 I am not saying that you said cast members should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are, I just wanted to give my opinion on this. If I was a cast member I believe that I would be afraid to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I don't think a cast member should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are. Shorty82 I am not saying that you said cast members should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are, I just wanted to give my opinion on this. If I was a cast member I believe that I would be afraid to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are.

If not a CM, then who? A lot of smokers simply don't know. They may come from states/countries where the rules allow smoking in public. If it is approached in a professional manner, there should be no problem in 99 out of 100 cases.

[turkeyham]

At Dismey parks, smoking is not allowed unless you are in a smoking area.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

At Dismey parks, smoking is not allowed unless you are in a smoking area.

and we all know that no guest would violate that policy!

or do we???


hehehehehehe

[joanna71985]

I don't think a cast member should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are. Shorty82 I am not saying that you said cast members should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are, I just wanted to give my opinion on this. If I was a cast member I believe that I would be afraid to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are.

Actually, the parks are non-smoking except for the select smoking locations. So CMs are supposed to tell smokers outside the locations that they need to go to the spots to smoke. So if a CM isn't telling guests that they have to move to a smoking location to smoke, IMO they aren't doing their job unfortunately (because it isn't right to all the other guests to have to put up with the smoke).

[felinefan]

When I was working at Knott's, it was amazing how many guests couldn't seem to see the no smoking signs in Camp Snoopy. You're not supposed to smoke anywhere in Camp Snoopy, on rides or in ride queues, in bathrooms, or in sitdown restaurants. Seriously, I would politely tell guests that there's no smoking in Camp Snoopy, and they'd ask where it said that. I'd point to the sign right behind them, in bright red, and also point out where it said so on the back of the maps. I don't recall anyone getting militant on me about it, though.

[Big Wallaby]

there should be no problem in 99 out of 100 cases.Actually, I rethought my numbers. Because of the way I do it, my problem guests in this come to about one in a thousand.

Usually, if I do have a problem guest, I just become a little louder about it and get the people around us involved. Just like getting on their side, this technique is amazing in its effectiveness.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Actually, I rethought my numbers. Because of the way I do it, my problem guests in this come to about one in a thousand.

Usually, if I do have a problem guest, I just become a little louder about it and get the people around us involved. Just like getting on their side, this technique is amazing in its effectiveness.

okay, 999 out of 1000!!

Hmmm the number seems strangely familer!

[Big Wallaby]

There's always room for one more. Any volunteers?

[SCRacerX70]

This story reminds me of an incident that happened to me at DTD, right outside Sosa's..

I had walked outside after lighting up a Fuente Between the Lines (an expensive cigar for those who don't recognize the name).. and a woman similar to the OP's asks me in a very sarcastic tone "Do you MIND?".. I looked back at her and boyfriend/husband/SO, smiled and replied.. " No... I don't mind at all!" I gave her "escort" a look as if "don't even think about it" (being 6'2" / 275 helps), and they just grumbled under their breath and left...

Keep in mind this is in front of a cigar store...

[darph nader]

If you like non-smoking areas you might try Mesa Az. The only places you can smoke are 'in' your own house or in your backyard.

Of course you all know I smoke,but 'never' in non-smoking areas.

[Driver_dylan]

I recently found a hand held smoke machine on a DJ supply website. I toyed briefly with buying it and taking it around some places in Downtown. Just to see if anyone questions me.

[Main Streeter]

If you like non-smoking areas you might try Mesa Az. The only places you can smoke are 'in' your own house or in your backyard.Another reason I just Love Mesa! Mesa also has one of the finest HVAC schools in the U.S. Mesa is also a Party town! ;)

[darph nader]

Another reason I just Love Mesa! Mesa also has one of the finest HVAC schools in the U.S. Mesa is also a Party town! ;)

Party town???? I heard they were mostly Mormon. :confused: That's why they got such a strict anti-smoking law passed.
How do Mormons party anyway?
"Hey baby, hand me an icetea and show me some ankle". :D:
(I know,I'm going to hell for that):rolleyes:

[ktulu]

Party town???? I heard they were mostly Mormon. :confused: That's why they got such a strict anti-smoking law passed.
How do Mormons party anyway?
"Hey baby, hand me an icetea and show me some ankle". :D:
(I know,I'm going to hell for that):rolleyes:

They don't drink caffeine, so that tea better be decaf! That means more beers (or rum!) for us anyway.

[darph nader]

They don't drink caffeine, so that tea better be decaf! That means more beers (or rum!) for us anyway.

I know. A guy I worked with years ago was a "Reformed" Mormon,drank Coke all day,and would join us after work for a cold one. ;)

[Lasolimu]

I know. A guy I worked with years ago was a "Reformed" Mormon,drank Coke all day,and would join us after work for a cold one. ;)

Reformed Mormons of the world unite and party! By the fact that I live in Utah many people may assume that I am Mormon, but I am a reformed Mormon.

Why do you take two Mormons fishing? If you only take one he will drink all of your beer!


Also, something interesting Joseph Smith said about Mormons going to Hell if they are wrong, they are going to take over Hell and turn it into Heaven.

[dazyhill]

I remember once asking some guests I had in the shop where they were from and they said Utah but quickly added that they were not Mormon. I found that funny at the time.

[ktulu]

Another reason I just Love Mesa! Mesa also has one of the finest HVAC schools in the U.S. Mesa is also a Party town! ;)

Why would you know this?

[Main Streeter]

Why would you know this?My vast knowledge loops you sometimes doesn't it Ktulu? :D:

[Main Streeter]

Party town???? I heard they were mostly Mormon. :confused:
How do Mormons party anyway?
"Hey baby, hand me an icetea and show me some ankle". :D:
(I know,I'm going to hell for that):rolleyes:Yes, Mesa is a party town! :cool: Climb out of your "cell" once in awhile & read up on Az. Jeez, you live there. :rolleyes: Mormons party like Catholics. I saw no diffs. They sure gave out the wine. :winetost: What's wrong with Long Island Ice Tea & a little ankle? One can always be creative & move up. ;) ;) No worries abt going to hell for this post darph. Am sure your way is already paved. :p:

[ktulu]

My vast knowledge loops you sometimes doesn't it Ktulu? :D:

Just once, then it pulls back into the station :D:

[hobie16]

I remember once asking some guests I had in the shop where they were from and they said Utah but quickly added that they were not Mormon. I found that funny at the time.
You can always check to see if they're wearing their funny underware.

[Lasolimu]

"Hey baby, hand me an icetea and show me some ankle". :D:
(I know,I'm going to hell for that):rolleyes:

According to Mormon doctrine, that is not enough for you to go to Hell, I think I am the only one on here that fits that category. The only way for you to go to Hell is to have been a baptized Mormon and they leave the church. There are two other alternatives, but I don't know of anybody that fits the seeing Jesus and denying him category which nets you the complete destruction of your soul(most people don't actually know about this one because it isn't taught, but it can be found if you look for it), and then everybody else goes to the "Waiting Room" where they choose to accept Mormonism or not which decides where they go.

[Goofyernmost]

What I think is incredible is that for the longest time blacks were not allowed to join. They are now accepted in but are told that when they die they will go to heaven (or wherever) and become white so that they can enter.

What a humorous concept. And yet, people (blacks) buy into it and join. Can't quite wrap my head around that. Oh, well! Whatever floats one's boat, I guess!

[SandrA9810]

Maybe it's thier way of wanting to be like Micheal Jackson...

Mormons are a scary scary bunch. I'm sure being gay puts you straight to hell as well.

[Lasolimu]

What I think is incredible is that for the longest time blacks were not allowed to join. They are now accepted in but are told that when they die they will go to heaven (or wherever) and become white so that they can enter.

What a humorous concept. And yet, people (blacks) buy into it and join. Can't quite wrap my head around that. Oh, well! Whatever floats one's boat, I guess!

Actually, they are supposed to become white before they die.

Maybe it's thier way of wanting to be like Micheal Jackson...

Mormons are a scary scary bunch. I'm sure being gay puts you straight to hell as well.

Actually, no, nothing you do in life will condemn you unless that is rejecting Jesus after actually seeing him, otherwise you are either sent to Heaven on the spot if you meet all of the requirements or are sent to the waiting room until everybody there is judged again and sent to one of the three degrees of heaven.

[kurtisnelson]

Actually, no, nothing you do in life will condemn you unless that is rejecting Jesus after actually seeing him, otherwise you are either sent to Heaven on the spot if you meet all of the requirements or are sent to the waiting room until everybody there is judged again and sent to one of the three degrees of heaven.
So... huh? Basically why be Mormon if you can still be saved after death?

[Lasolimu]

So... huh? Basically why be Mormon if you can still be saved after death?

That's just it, you still need to be Mormon, but you can convert after death, and if you don't you fall into the category of seeing Jesus and denying him. This is the whole purpose of Mormon baptisms for the dead, it is so people who weren't Mormon in life can still be saved.

What I never understood about any religion that preaches the Hell is a horrible place to end up is, why would Lucifer want to punish me? He is trying so hard to get me to join him, and succeeded. I give him what he wants and he plans to punish me for it? Makes no sense.

[Syndrome]

I just love the South Park summary of Mormon beliefs ("dum de dum dum dum"). But actually I do agree with one part of their faith. They believe you exist before you actually come to Earth, and even though I am a Christian (albeit a very liberal one), I believe that is true. After all, if our existence is eternal, it would have to go both ways, right? If eternity never ends, that means that any given point would be the middle. So if you're an eternal being, you don't just poof into existence one day.

[Lasolimu]

But actually I do agree with one part of their faith. They believe you exist before you actually come to Earth, and even though I am a Christian (albeit a very liberal one), I believe that is true. After all, if our existence is eternal, it would have to go both ways, right? If eternity never ends, that means that any given point would be the middle. So if you're an eternal being, you don't just poof into existence one day.

That isn't entirely true. They say that we are all part of a repeating process where we are born to parents in heaven who send us to a planet to test us, in our case, Earth. If we achieve the highest level of heaven we are given the same power and go through the same process. Yes, they are polytheistic and not monotheistic as they tell everybody else. So while you don't just pop into existence one day you didn't always exist.

[BRWombat]

What I never understood about any religion that preaches the Hell is a horrible place to end up is, why would Lucifer want to punish me? He is trying so hard to get me to join him, and succeeded. I give him what he wants and he plans to punish me for it? Makes no sense.You have questions, I have answers. (Making me the Radio Shack of Christianity?)

The Biblical description of hell isn't a place Lucifer rules over, it's a place of torment, of eternal separation from the presence of God, prepared for him and his angels -- in other words, Lucifer will be there for punishment, too. God really doesn't want anyone to have to join him there, and has provided a way of escape available to everyone through faith in Jesus. But He's also provided us with a choice.

References available on request. :)

[Lasolimu]

The Biblical description of hell isn't a place Lucifer rules over, it's a place of torment, of eternal separation from the presence of God, prepared for him and his angels -- in other words, Lucifer will be there for punishment, too. God really doesn't want anyone to have to join him there, and has provided a way of escape available to everyone through faith in Jesus. But He's also provided us with a choice.

I personally don't see what the big deal is with separation from God, I am separated from God right now and it doesn't feel like a big deal to me. Also, what about the people who ENJOY torment, huh? Seems to me like this whole plan was thought through far enough. Then there is the fact that pretty much no religion uses that description of Hell anymore, they all use the Dante Hell, probably because it is scarier to think about, in which case my point still stands. I feel pretty safe that religions don't use this description of Hell because then they couldn't preach that people who don't follow their religion are sent there no matter what, which is pretty much what all of them say, "follow our religion or go to Hell." Of course, going into the Bible at all is a mistake because it contradicts itself to much, it cannot tell you if you are saved by works or faith, it says both and it says neither. "You see that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone." "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast." So yes, I question your source.

[hobie16]

Sounds like they're trying to cover all bases.

[CujoSR]

Just a word of caution. This subject can be a sore spot for some. Discussing religion on a web forum rarely goes well. I will keep it open for the time being but be the good members I know you all are and keep it civil.

[kurtisnelson]

Hey, only on SGT can we discuss Religion AND Politics in the same thread while off topic and not start a flame war or have a mod instantly slam the topic closed :)

[Syndrome]

I would hate the "traditional" idea of Heaven as a perfect place. Can you imagine perfection for eternity? Ugh! "Oh, look, I won the lottery again. Let me buy another Rolls Royce. Oh yeah, there's already 500 of 'em in the garage. What's the weather forecast? Silly me, 78 and sunny of course." I figure ANYTHING would get dull for eternity, so even though I am a Christian I tend to believe in reincarnation. After all, God probably didn't just stop at making one world. That would get dull for Him too. And at any given time, there are new worlds starting while old ones (like ours) are in the process of destroying themselves. When that happens, one of the newer ones will have more life on it so the souls from here can be sent over there.

[BRWombat]

...Of course, going into the Bible at all is a mistake because it contradicts itself to much, it cannot tell you if you are saved by works or faith, it says both and it says neither. "You see that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone." "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast." So yes, I question your source.Understood. A quick look at the Bible will show some seeming contradictions, but I've found that a deeper study resolves any of significance. Like the James quote you give above. In context I think James was using the word "justified" differently than salvation. In the second quote, Paul was definitely talking about salvation, being reconciled with God, which is certainly one meaning of "justified." But James is talking about claiming with words to have faith. Such a claim is "justified" only if its the type of faith that makes a change in your life -- words alone aren't enough.

Me, I've found the Bible to be reliable and have banked my entire life on what it says.

I would hate the "traditional" idea of Heaven as a perfect place. Can you imagine perfection for eternity? Ugh! ...Me too! I've always thought the common view of heaven as a place of fluffy clouds, harps, halos, and angel food cake (?) sounded awfully boring. Fortunately, I don't think that's the case -- how could a God who was creative enough to make this beautiful earth make someplace so dull? I highly recommend a book called Heaven (http://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Randy-Alcorn/dp/0842379428/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248748787&sr=1-1) by Randy Alcorn, which takes a look at what the Bible (there I go again! :)) actually says.

Just a word of caution. This subject can be a sore spot for some. Discussing religion on a web forum rarely goes well. I will keep it open for the time being but be the good members I know you all are and keep it civil.Agreed, and I'm grateful that -- so far at least -- we can discuss this without aggravation. This really is one of the most easy-going, friendly web communities I've seen anywhere. Because I don't want to mess with that, and because these type of discussions aren't really what SGT is for, feel free to respond or not, but I'll gladly stop here. (But I'd be glad to continue by PM if anyone wants.)

[turkeyham]

A few days ago off of Katella and Clemintine (sp) there was a car crash. It involved 1 cast shuttle and a SG driving a white king cab pick-up truck. Around I am guessing about 9:45 am ish, the white pick-up driver was trying to get infront of the shuttle bus and tempted to make a left turn. From what I heard, the SG T-boned to shuttle bus in the intersection. There was a good gap on the left side of the shuttle and the white pick-up truck was smashed in the front.

Folks, don't drive like an idiot in front of shuttle buses. Or even try to do a stupid stunt that might hurt you and others.

[Syndrome]

I highly recommend a book called Heaven (http://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Randy-Alcorn/dp/0842379428/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248748787&sr=1-1) by Randy Alcorn, which takes a look at what the Bible (there I go again! :)) actually says.
I just read a few excerpts from it online. Very interesting, especially the part about pets and Heaven. I've always believed that pets will indeed be in the afterlife, but I've had religious friends argue the point. I fully agree with Alcorn's view. I just sometimes imagine that one of my adopted pets perhaps had an owner who loved it but somehow lost it...there we will be, fighting over our pet in Heaven someday. They ain't getting any of my beloved critters away from me (well, maybe Tooncinator the Poopy Cat, but his former owner was one of my friends who doesn't believe that pets will be in Heaven...she was the one who saved his feral mom...so it's not like she's going to want him back).

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I would hate the "traditional" idea of Heaven as a perfect place. Can you imagine perfection for eternity? Ugh! "Oh, look, I won the lottery again. Let me buy another Rolls Royce. Oh yeah, there's already 500 of 'em in the garage. What's the weather forecast? Silly me, 78 and sunny of course." I figure ANYTHING would get dull for eternity, so even though I am a Christian I tend to believe in reincarnation. After all, God probably didn't just stop at making one world. That would get dull for Him too. And at any given time, there are new worlds starting while old ones (like ours) are in the process of destroying themselves. When that happens, one of the newer ones will have more life on it so the souls from here can be sent over there.

Ther was an old Twilite Zzone episode about a mobster that died and went to heaven, he always won at the casino, always had the hot babes, etc. etc. he got very board after a week of always winning at everything.

turns out it wasnt heaven!!

hehehehehhehee

[DisneyMom]

Ther was an old Twilite Zzone episode about a mobster that died and went to heaven, he always won at the casino, always had the hot babes, etc. etc. he got very board after a week of always winning at everything.

turns out it wasnt heaven!!

hehehehehhehee

Was all the Rum gone?;)

[hobie16]

Ther was an old Twilite Zzone episode about a mobster that died and went to heaven, he always won at the casino, always had the hot babes, etc. etc. he got very board after a week of always winning at everything.

turns out it wasnt heaven!!

hehehehehhehee
Reminds me of the joke with the punch line, "The bottle has a hole in the bottom and she doesn't."

[BRWombat]

Ther was an old Twilite Zzone episode about a mobster that died and went to heaven, he always won at the casino, always had the hot babes, etc. etc. he got very board after a week of always winning at everything.

turns out it wasnt heaven!!

hehehehehheheeI remember that episode. That was so creepy and cool -- the gangster's every wish was granted as soon as he uttered it, and there was no longer any chance to the gambling games. He liked it at first, but got more and more frustrated as time went on. I [heart] Twilight Zone!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I remember that episode. That was so creepy and cool -- the gangster's every wish was granted as soon as he uttered it, and there was no longer any chance to the gambling games. He liked it at first, but got more and more frustrated as time went on. I [heart] Twilight Zone!

And if I remember right, Sebastian Cabot played the on-call "help" named "PIP" Decidedly not in a "Mr. French" role!!

[JugglingFreak]

They did a spoof of that on "Futurama". Well, it was that episode combined with the twist endings of about three or for other episodes..

I found a clip here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcN8ExFlzGk

It's all four "Scary Door" bits they did. The one in question is the 2nd. Unfortunately, they cut the punch line out of it. After all the twist ending in a row, it cuts back to Bender and Fry on the couch where Bender states "Saw it coming.."


Note: The video is mirrored for some reason, but still watchable..

Maurice LaMarche does the Rod Serilng imitation. He also does a great Orson Wells. (He was the voice of Brain on "Pinky and the Brain")

[Syndrome]

Maurice LaMarche does the Rod Serilng imitation. He also does a great Orson Wells. (He was the voice of Brain on "Pinky and the Brain")
Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Maurice LaMarche does the Rod Serilng imitation. He also does a great Orson Wells. (He was the voice of Brain on "Pinky and the Brain")

Who does the voice of Rod Serling on Tower of Terror?

[darph nader]

Who does the voice of Rod Serling on Tower of Terror?

Rod Serling. Cut together from various tape recordings.

[joanna71985]

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

Besides taking over the world tonight?

[kurtisnelson]

Rod Serling. Cut together from various tape recordings.
Sort of. Up to and including "this as you may know is a" is Rod, after that it is a impersonator.

[JugglingFreak]

Sort of. Up to and including "this as you may know is a" is Rod, after that it is a impersonator.

Yep, then it is taken over by Mark Silverman.

[Malpass93]

The visuals are of Mr. Serling, though.

Love that ride, I have to get a pic of the Tower every time I go, day AND night. Sorta like SSE.