Why dont guests listen!!!!!

[DISNEYVAL]

Why is it that when you tell the guest for their safety and ours for that matter, they don’t listen. Here is my story. I worked on The Great Movie Ride back in 2002 as a college intern.
Some of you know the speal " Please no flash photography or use of external video lighting." Well I had these guests the constantly kept taking pictures throughout the attraction. Fine I did not mind till I got to Gangster Alley, which in that area is dark and we do run around, at the time so any flash could bother you plus we run (walk) down the stairs.
Now that was no the area that bothered me. Well when I get to the Anubis scene as soon as the veichael comes up again there is more flashing. The gangster came up the steps and was mad that the guests keep taking the flash. Well I was not going to say anything to her till I did my TAAAA DAAAAA!!!
Then I started to go down the steps it’s very darken that area and the only thing you can see is the yellow tape on the steps. Well once again this lady took more pics and something I did not mention was that she did not have a regular camera. She had one of those expensive freaking ones that took multiple pics at one time. So you have like 50 flashes before you eyes can adjust. So yeah half way down I was blinded missed a step and rolled literally the rest of the way down. :shock: The only thing that stopped me was the veicheal when I hit it. While some people laughed which i admit I did too. I was nervous and embarrassed :oops: and made a quick little joke about it.
The damn guest still was taking pictures and seemed to not care what happened. NOW I WAS PISSED limped back on and said one again NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY!!!! Throught the rest of the show she still kept taking pictures, I could also see the other guests were not happy. So finally the show ended, so when it came time to release the guests. I kept the two that took the pics in the veicheal and limped over to them and really laid into the guests it did not seem to help cause all they did was laugh at me. :evil: Just pissed me off more.

Has anyone else had to deal with this? and the worst thing is there is not much you can do. :x

[Zazu]

Why is it that when you tell the guest for their safety and ours for that matter, they don’t listen.

Has anyone else had to deal with this? and the worst thing is there is not much you can do. :x
I'm sure we've all had to deal with this.

My biggest flash issue has been when working the nighttime parades. I first ask them not to. Then I explain that it's for the safety of the cast. Then I point out their photos will be better if they don't use flash. :hammer:

When all that fails, I stand in front of them and very pointedly offer to take their camera over to City Hall for safekeeping since they can't keep it from flashing.

Haven't tried it with digital cameras, but you don't have to let folks take too many film shots of the inside of a black hat to get their attention! :twisted:

[cheshire]

During an evac we told people not to take pictures inside the ride. Well, this group of girls decided to pose and take a picture in front of some animation. The cast member that was with me took the camera away from her. Through the whole evac she kept saying how sorry she was and that she would never do it again. I believe that tears were involved. She really thought that she wasn't getting it back. She got the camera back in the end and the cast member told her if she did it again we would take the film. Probably could have gotten us in a lot of trouble but she was just thankful to get her camera back. That's not evil, is it?

[DISNEYVAL]

Awe that was mean. :(. Just playing I dont know, personaly I have never been told anything about not letting the guests take pictures of areas within the attraction even on an evac, only durring the operation of the ride. I have personaly took pictures of things that we as castmembers are not supposed to do, but as long as they dont end up on the internet then they dont care.

[cheshire]

The only reason we tell them not to take pictures is because evacs would take forever if everyone stopped to pose with the animation. Then there is the chance that as they are posing they damage something. It's not like they listen anyway. Hopefully those girls learned a lesson. When a cast member tells you to do (or not to do) something,do what they say. (Personally, I think cast members taking pictures inside attractions are just perks of the job :D)

[Weeble]

I would have stopped the ride and had security and a lead come out. I hope you are ok.

[DISNEYVAL]

Yeah now I understand on the evacs and the taking of the pics. I have only only done one evac, and it was very smoth. Yeah i was fine, just a little sore from the fall, as far as kicking them off. I worked on the Great Movie Ride so by the time I call some one and they show up the show would be half way over, and would have to make all the guests wait.
:D

[se8472]

Yeah, inside of space mt its so dark in there. Sometimes you are just blinded by some flashes.

Or my favorite is when people get on and have there camera lighting on. We tell them to turn it off and then do but the on the ride they turn it right back on! Then whoever is in tower tells them to turn it off on the PA and if they don't they light up space the whole way down.

Then coming into unload theyc an blind the CM down there. Just not cool

WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!

[coldfire409]

Back when I worked in tomorrrowland at Alien Encounter we would have at least once ever 4-5 shows somebody with a light on their camcorder on. One time when the refused to turn it off we let everybody in the chamber, except for them see the show again under show lighting. But we made the guest with the camera and his party leave. This was also we did frequently on Space Mtn as well because the light ruins the ride for everybody.

[Polar33]

I would be all for a "if you can't follow the rules, we'll take away your toys" policy. It would be just like grade school (which I think we can all agree that the mindset of most adults regresses to when they pass through the gate), if your toy is disrupting the enjoyment or safety of others you should get one warning, if you fail to take it seriously you loose your toy and can pick it up on your way out. It may be unfair to those who loose their toys, but if they don't care about the others they are inconveniencing, why should I care about their inconvenience?

[DisneyPrincess]

I would totally agree with that rule!

[DISNEYVAL]

I like that rule. :D But the I think the parks might be empty then . :lol: I think people just have it in thier mind from not only working there but visiting Disneyland that they can do anything they like and not get int truble. :x

[BeckWhy]

Ok, I know this post is a bit old. But I started at the end of the posts to reply.

I also know I'm not a cast member, I'm a guest. I've read a few posts, and I must say, not all guests are that bad. I'm not :D: . But yall wouldn't know that, cuz I never give any of you guys problems.

Anyways...

One year, many years ago, maybe 6 years ago or longer, we were on Star Tours and there was a couple recording the ride. First the attendent came on the PA, "The use of video cameras is prohibitted." Or something. A few minutes later, the attendent commented again, "if you do not put away the video camera we will confinscate it." The couple continued. At that point, most of the guests were giving them bad looks. At the end of the ride, the couple was approached and their video camera was taken.

[PirateJohn]

Frankly, if I ran the world, I'd impose a mandatory two-day training class for all people who want to purchase flash cameras.

Twice I've had to sit in front of some annoying b**** who refused to turn their camera flash off even after I reminded them of the park's rules against flash pictures. I wear glasses so if someone flashes behind me, I see nothing but a field of white.

Not only that, but they were using cheap flashes that don't work beyond fifteen feet and they were taking pictures fo a show more than sixty feet away. Ugh! I had all I could do to keep from grabbing their camera and throwing it as far as I could.

[Stduck]

Yes flash pictures...-growl-

So Mansion holiday, large pretty backdrop behind load of the characters from Nightmare. 20 flashes later. I can't see. Yes, the main reason we don't ask you to take pictures is for my and your safety. Thank you I am done.

[leftcoaster]

Twice I've had to sit in front of some annoying b**** who refused to turn their camera flash off even after I reminded them of the park's rules against flash pictures. I wear glasses so if someone flashes behind me, I see nothing but a field of white.

Not only that, but they were using cheap flashes that don't work beyond fifteen feet and they were taking pictures fo a show more than sixty feet away. Ugh! I had all I could do to keep from grabbing their camera and throwing it as far as I could.

"Accidently" stick your hand up in the air, with one finger entended. :twisted:

[SilverStyle]

We have done this at ToT. If tower gives me a call telling me they were taking film or photos. I will have the guest erase them and tell them they have been warned.

[wazowski]

Over at the Disneyland park I've had the same problem with crazy people with flash cameras and camera lights. One day while operating snow white I kindly spieled over the queue PA 'for the safety of yourself and those around you please keep all camera lighting off and refrain from flash photography' - the woman continued to videotape using a high power camera light. When it finally came for her to board the 'mine car' she had her evil camera pointed in my face and again I asked her to turn it off. She became immediately irate (midwestern disney obssesed people who think they know everything :eek:) 'I KNOW HOW THE RULES WORK HERE, I DON'T HAVE TO TURN MY CAMERA OFF UNTIL I'M IN THE RIDE.' I reminded her that I operate the ride and it is dangerous when I cannot see where guests are and see my console. She continued telling me that she knew how things work. I didn't even try to argue I just said, 'make sure you look out for the wit-'...she interrupted me with an attitude 'I KNOW THE RULES BETTER THAN YOU, YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO YOUR JOB!'

What I wanted to do next isn't something I can type. :twisted: I don't understand why people come to disneyland to fight, whine and complain. Sigh.

[MagliteL13]

When doing Spectro PAC, that problem is always there. It's not so much the annoyance, but it's the safety that gets to me. When someone gets hurt because of something you did, then you obviously shouldn't have done it. When I'm in the parks as a guest, I've simply learned to put my hand over the front of the persons camera very quickly. Come to think of it, I should start carrying a mirror with me so that when they take the picture, they get blinded.

[BeckWhy]

I take flash pictures... but not when the rules say NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY!

[leftcoaster]

I used to use high speed film to take shots that I couldn't use a flash for.

Some people would ask me, "How/why are you taking pictures? They won't come out."

"1000 speed film, and they will come out"

[PirateJohn]

My real question...


Why do people take flash pictures of fireworks?!

[leftcoaster]

My real question...


Why do people take flash pictures of fireworks?!

Not trying to defend them, but it may not really be them. It could be their ordinary point and shoot cameras that automatically flash if the ambient light is low. Remember, this flash is only good for 10-15 feet MAX, and how far away are the fireworks ?

[PirateJohn]

Not trying to defend them, but it may not really be them. It could be their ordinary point and shoot cameras that automatically flash if the ambient light is low. Remember, this flash is only good for 10-15 feet MAX, and how far away are the fireworks ?And let's not forget those who also take flash pictures of projection screens.

[IndyandMarion]

Please, you want to talk about being blinded?

For those who have never been to RnRC, let me set the stage. Studio C: It's Dark, real dark, no point in even having the lights in there if they are that low...Placed firmly in the wall is a GLASS window that runs the length of the room. Suddenly, there's a flash, and you, nor anyone else can see a damn thing. Why? BECAUSE SOME IDIOT TOOK A PHOTO AFTER THE THREE MANUAL SPIELS ABOUT NO FLASH!

Another thing that really gets us is at the loading area, while there is a good amount of light, still not enough to take out the flash. So if Im on the side of the platform where I can walk up to the person, I will, stop, look at them for a second and clearly let them see that my eyes are trying to readjust because of the flash then raise my voice in a Lewis Black manner and say "STOP IT NOW!" then turn, and walk off.

It really gets me because Im partially photo sensitive (Basically, I can't handle dark to light quickly)

[StupidGuestQuest]

Why don't guests listen you ask....

Most guests don't listen because most guests are idiots.

I'm a guest and I try not to be part of that "most."

[SilverStyle]

Just a heard of cattle IMO

[coldfire409]

Hey, if it wasn't for people that don't listen I'd be out of a job. I'd say that of the 5 cases that I've had 4 would have never happened if somebody listened to somebody else. But hey I take my cut and the person that didn't listen pays through the nose.

[gurgi]

Just a heard of cattle IMO


thats funny when i visit the parks, and im in a queue, my friends and i usually moo...hmm

[Zazu]

thats funny when i visit the parks, and im in a queue, my friends and i usually moo... hmmThere's a reason Walt had several cattle cars on the Disneyland Railroad when the Park opened....

:cow2::cow2::cow2::cow2::cow2::cow2::cow2:

[BRWombat]

thats funny when i visit the parks, and im in a queue, my friends and i usually moo...hmm
omigosh... I thought I was the only one who did that!!! :cow: :cow: :cow:

[SummerInFl]

I sympathize with all of you, I think its completely horrible that they won't comply after you've asked. I wish there was something in place to circumvent that situation. Obviously you have a good reason for stating why they can't but I imagine some morons think you only say it to keep you from taking pictures of the inside of the rides. Some people have no sense, personally I appreciate it when someone tells me what not to do while I'm there, sometimes you don't realize that you're doing something wrong. There needs to be some rule for people who think they are above the rules. If I was there and I personally saw something like that happening I wouldn't hesitate to tell the person off for you. That's ridiculous, it not only hurts safety but the people who want to appreciate the ride for what it is can't because Joe X decides he wants to preserve his memories....how irritating!~ :mad:

[Stduck]

I don't remember if I posted this little story before, and I don't feel like hunting for my post if I did.

So this is at Disneyland I'm on pirates with my boyfriend. There is this I believe it was a lady snapping flash photos. After photo number 3 or 4 I turned around and not rudely but kinda in a CM voice said. "Could you stop taking Flash pictures?" Then turned back around and my boyfriend said "What did you do that for?" I said "They were ruining my ride experience"

[LiveWire]

Oh I hate it when people take flash pictures on pirates! I always get a headache afterwards.

I was on pirates one afternoon with my friend and as soon as we left the dock some idiot started taking pictures. My friend looked at me like okay stay calm. About the third picture I turned around and said "what part of no flash photography didn't you understand?"

The guy in front of me laughed and said "apparently none of it."

So the flash pictures stopped for awhile and then they started up again but I didn't have to say anything cause the rest of the boat got mad at them too. So they stopped. It just goes to show if you lead they will follow! :D:

[SilverStyle]

No kidding, we get this stuff at tower all the time. If its not busy at all, I will kick the person off and and ask if the group wants to go in. I will usually get a call from Tower when I am at load people are filming. I mean its pretty dark and if you have your damn cam light it ruins everything. I have had people erase all of their filming, when they come off.

[Stduck]

^ Oooh Camera lights...-growls- That is the one thing I despise about Holiday at Mansion....the increase in flash photography and uses of external lighting. Take all the damn pictures and video you want. JUST DON'T USE A FLASH.

So in the ER at Mansion this guy snaped one the two flash pictures as I am bumping through rotation. I said "Please don't take flash pictures thank you" and the guy says "We can't take pictures?" I said "Take all the pictures you want, just don't use a flash" and I made a big deal out of not being able to see.

[Main Streeter]

No kidding, we get this stuff at tower all the time. If its not busy at all, I will kick the person off and and ask if the group wants to go in.GOOD FOR YOU Silver :D: About time CMs take over!! Never thought much about flashes ( as I'm stores) until I was suddenly blinded the other day - yes, sunny day - as I excited Side Show Shirts. Two flashes & I almost bonded for life with one of those large red & white standards. Keep kicking those IDIOTS outa TOT for all of us ;)

[aliceindisguse]

I still remeber the day I was on Mansion and while going around Madame Leota(sp?) Some idiot in the buggy across from ours kept taking pictures....after about the 3rd one I yelled "No Flash Photography please, some of us would like to see." I got a few random cheers and needless to say they stopped taking pictures. People just don't seem to realize how blinding it can be.

Plus they don't understand that it acutually messes with the Ride Control System at some of the dark rides. I know at least at the classics darkrides if you take a picture with flash and were backed up we can breakdown, because it messes with the camera system by sending too much light into the area.

[Stduck]

Yeah its the worst at Load 1 in Mansion when flash pictures are taken. We're walking, on a conveyor belt. One flash and you're blinded for a good few minutes. You can't see, you can't load guests cause you can't see.

I've seen flash pictures taken during Aladdin, I was in shock. They say not to, and the main reason you aren't supposed to take flash pictures during a performance is it can blind the actors.

Besides from sitting on ropes and chains this is my biggest pet peeve.

[techie-13]

I spent two seasons working on an ice show with a flying section that was performed under blacklight. We would constantly have idiots taking flash pictures even though we asked them not to. It really was for the safety of the performers. We had two girls in Foy harnesses spinning around and flying but they were still wearing ice skates. Other skaters in dark costumes would come out onto the ice to help spin them for the platter spins. Uh yeah, you've just been blinded by a flash, now approach a set of whirling ice skates that are about head height in blacklight and not hurt yourself or anyone else.
(Not to mention, if you blinded the two crew members operating each girl's fly rig. "I can't see is she down yet?")
It also ruins the illusion and I bet those folks looked at the developed picture and wonder why it didn't look like the show :rolleyes:

[WDWDen]

I gotta say, I'm loving this thread!! These rude people seem to follow me to the parks. I don't know how you guys manage to stay so calm all the time.

My biggest complaint is when I'm going into a theater and the CM asks everyone to move ALL the way down the row, so everyone can sit. Sure enough, some couple always stops right in the middle of the row. It happens all the time to me. I try not to let it bother me, but its so annoying. I figure that most times, its probably a foreigner and they may not speak english. Of course, that is just my guess. Its hard to imagine that people can just be that rude.

[coldfire409]

A few years ago I went to see a show in New York and some idiot started to take flash pictures in the show. Thankfully the usher threw that person out of the theatre. I mean if the producers wanted to take photos for an ad for the show they do it durring a dress rehersal with the house lights on and tell the preformers what they are doing. There are very few stage photos of a show where a preformer is looking directly at the camera.

On the note of people not moving down. These people bitch that they cannot see the show. They said it when I worked at Alien Encounter which is round.

[leftcoaster]

My biggest complaint is when I'm going into a theater and the CM asks everyone to move ALL the way down the row, so everyone can sit. Sure enough, some couple always stops right in the middle of the row. It happens all the time to me. I try not to let it bother me, but its so annoying. I figure that most times, its probably a foreigner and they may not speak english. Of course, that is just my guess. Its hard to imagine that people can just be that rude.

And, when that happens to me, I just hate it when I accidently 'stomp' on their foot when I am trying to climb over them to get around them. :twisted:

[Dragonrider1227]

Back when I worked in tomorrrowland at Alien Encounter we would have at least once ever 4-5 shows somebody with a light on their camcorder on. One time when the refused to turn it off we let everybody in the chamber, except for them see the show again under show lighting. But we made the guest with the camera and his party leave. This was also we did frequently on Space Mtn as well because the light ruins the ride for everybody.
UGH, Why do people do that? Why do they have to do things that ruin the fun of everyone else? :mad: Fortunatly, i've never run into anyone like this and I personally never do that.

[BTTF4Life]

Camera lights do ruin attractions for others. I know one attraction I worked at, if someone was using a bright camera light, we could disable their RV and return it to it's home position. They'd then be told why their RV stopped mid-ride and they'd be allowed to ride again, but they couldn't use the camera. If they did it again, they were kicked off the ride.

[RagnarokandRoll]

Hey Val,

I too am a veteran of the Great Movie Ride, and I have had COUNTLESS shows with guests I've come to call "strobe lights", who take a million flash pictures (little do they know that the pics turn out better if you leave your flash off anyway). Anyway, I'm not 100% sure if this is true or not, but I'm sure someone must have told you when you're trained...that when GMR first opened those stairs were in fact vertical (not all bent at right angles like they are now) and a tour guide got seriously injured by falling down them.
I'm none too shy about hitting that nice, big fat red "E STOP" button and handpacking if a guest, much like the ones you've described, will not stop after several requests. Flash pictures are hazardous to the saftey of the cast...yadda yadda. It's true. Plus, it's just rude and highly irritating to the other guests, not to mention distracting as a vehicle operator.
I had one lady once tell me that she couldn't turn off her flash, as if that would somehow make it ok or less of a saftey hazard even if it was true.

Admittedly, though, sometimes if they've been good the ENTIRE ride and laughed at the corny jokes I don't mind if they take flash pictures of the final scene in OZ, of the four characters, as we're heading into the finale...by then it's pointless to stop them anyway.

...I cannot WAIT to go back...sigh

[TalkingHands]

There are certain rides I have given up trying to take photos while riding. There is no way to get good pics without the flash on these and I will not use flash. I think some of these people don't know their camera well enough to know how to turn the flash off.

[RagnarokandRoll]

There are certain rides I have given up trying to take photos while riding. There is no way to get good pics without the flash on these and I will not use flash. I think some of these people don't know their camera well enough to know how to turn the flash off.

The good lord invented the instruction manual for a reason. The Great Movie Ride, Splash Mountain, the Haunted Mansion etc is no place to figure it out. I complain every single time as a guest when I have to sit through an entire ride near someone who feels the need to take pictures of everything like some kind of paparrazzi cretin, instead of just sitting there and EXPERIENCING the ride.
Example: I have gone on pirates of the carribean roughly 10,000 times (hyperbole - the real number is probably in the thousands somewhere). I love it and I can't get enough of it. Not once have I felt the need to take pictures, because to me having a picture of a scene in a disney ride is like taking a picture of a radio playing your favorite song. It's never going to evoke the same emotions or feelings. I've never understood people who feel this urgent need to record every ride, because it places a degree of separation between you and the ride and prevents you from truly experiencing it.

Case in point: Thanks to the marvel of the internet, everyone who wants to can find a video of Horizons and watch it. I, however, and countless fans like me, were there. I remember how it felt to ride horizons, that thrill of taking a glimpse of the future, imagining that I could really live under the ocean like that someday, or in outer space. I remember what it smelt like and how the seats felt. I have these memories and will have them forever, and to me that's infinitely more valuable than some grainy, poorly-shot mpeg. I'd like to see a camera do that (alduous huxley notwithstanding).

[PirateJohn]

Oh, I absolutely hate flashes. I've been to DL as a guest many times and people simply refused to turn their flashes off, simply ignoring me when I ask them.

One witch-with-a-capital-B started yelling at me during the Candlelight Vigil (when it was in the Fantasyland Theater) about how "the flash stays ON" because her daughter was in the show. One, that doesn't give you the right to pi$$ off everyone around you, and two, using a flash rated for twelve feet when you're about seventy feet from the stage doesn't do you a damned bit of good.

[leftcoaster]

The good lord invented the instruction manual for a reason.Wait. We're talking SGT's here. You expect them to read a manual? ;) Or even know how to read? ;)

[Ansem]

I hate working SGE chambers. The dumbest thing a guest told me as to why they didn't fill in all the seats (they left two seats open in the middle of the front row when I had about 20 more people looking for empty seats) was that the seats were wet. :dropmouth I simply told them that they were going to get wet nontheless anyway and they finally moved down. Then you have the idiots who just have to try 5 times to make thier scanners stay down before they lower automatically. If it didn't stay down the first time, what makes you think it will the 2nd - 5th time?? :banghead:

[DLRFantasmic!Dan]

And let's not forget those who also take flash pictures of projection screens.

Oh, yeah!! I wrok at HISTA at Disneyland, and many times before the show started, I spieled that there is no eating, drinking, smoking, FLASH PHOTOGRAHPY, and VIDEOTAPING!!!! What they do?? They either take falsh pictures or video tape with the light on?? Of what?? A movie screen?? What they don't know it won't work if they recorded, so it's no use. We have a side PA if we need to spiel, so I used that. I did that a couple of times, no reactions. I usually just go up to the guests and tell them to turn up their videotape recorder, and they do. One time it was, not one, not two, but like four or fave ASIAN TOURISTS!! They are the worsts!! They don't listen because they don't understand a word of English!! I just shined my flashlight on them and nod my head "NO!!!" The rest of the group followed!!!

[disneyaddict]

Hi everyone! I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I've noticed a lot of sarcasm on this site...LOVE it! :D:


Anyway, what gets to me almost as much as the flashing is the sheer thoughtlessness of the people taking pictures or filming. Yeah, it's fine if you want to film Illuminations. Sure, it's a nice show, and it's okay to want to take it with you. But, it is NOT okay to block the view of everyone around you.

My dad, stepmom, and I were at Epcot with my grandma and 2 cousins. It was my grandma and cousins' first time at WDW, and of course we wanted it to be perfect for them. Everything went smoothly, until we sit down to watch Illuminations. This idiot in front of us HELD UP his videocamera during the ENTIRE show. :mad:

At first, we just tried to see around it. But the place was packed, and there was no way we would have been able to move elsewhere. My dad cleared his throat and said, not unkindly, "Excuse me, sir, we'd like to be able to see." The guy just turns around and explains that he can't film any other way, without the view being obscured by the fence in front of him. Um, dude, put the lens THROUGH the bars...:confused:it's not that difficult:confused:. So, thanks to this idiot, my grandma and cousins STILL have not seen Illuminations. :(

[Whazzup]

Hi everyone! I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I've noticed a lot of sarcasm on this site...LOVE it! :D:


Anyway, what gets to me almost as much as the flashing is the sheer thoughtlessness of the people taking pictures or filming. Yeah, it's fine if you want to film Illuminations. Sure, it's a nice show, and it's okay to want to take it with you. But, it is NOT okay to block the view of everyone around you.

My dad, stepmom, and I were at Epcot with my grandma and 2 cousins. It was my grandma and cousins' first time at WDW, and of course we wanted it to be perfect for them. Everything went smoothly, until we sit down to watch Illuminations. This idiot in front of us HELD UP his videocamera during the ENTIRE show. :mad:

At first, we just tried to see around it. But the place was packed, and there was no way we would have been able to move elsewhere. My dad cleared his throat and said, not unkindly, "Excuse me, sir, we'd like to be able to see." The guy just turns around and explains that he can't film any other way, without the view being obscured by the fence in front of him. Um, dude, put the lens THROUGH the bars...:confused:it's not that difficult:confused:. So, thanks to this idiot, my grandma and cousins STILL have not seen Illuminations. :(


Welcome, DisneyAddict. So sorry to hear about your addiction. At least you have found a cool support group. :D: Marsupial Welcoming Committee - front and center!

Yes, we have all observed, sometimes at close range, the SG who insists on blocking the view of others in one way or another. Too bad we can't borrow a little rabid ankle biter to do our dirty work for us, eh? :twisted:

[disneyaddict]

Welcome, DisneyAddict. So sorry to hear about your addiction. At least you have found a cool support group. :D:

I believe it's an incurable addiction :eek:, but you won't hear me complain!:D:



Too bad we can't borrow a little rabid ankle biter to do our dirty work for us, eh? :twisted:

Hmm...unfortunately, I didn't have one of those handy. But, I did have an older cousin who is not afraid of "paybacks". (He made sure to "accidentally" shove the guy pretty hard as we were leaving. ;):clap:)

[mechurchlady]

Hey there disneyaddict and you will learn from the Queen of Paybacks Syndrom how to handle an SG. I use my disabilities like oops CRAMP and goose the guy in front of me or run down people with an ECV.

this is a fun group who can teach you how do deal with SGs of the world. I used what I learned here to deal with SGs in airports, banks, and restaurants.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I believe it's an incurable addiction :eek:, but you won't hear me complain!:D:




Hmm...unfortunately, I didn't have one of those handy. But, I did have an older cousin who is not afraid of "paybacks". (He made sure to "accidentally" shove the guy pretty hard as we were leaving. ;):clap:)

I like the water bottle turned squirt gun! (you have to practice a bit, but you can make it look like an accident!!!) especially if you aim, errr, down!

And remember to loudly exclaim, "dang spilled my water"!! that way, the SG MAY apologize to you!! (hehehehehe)

[disneyaddict]

I like the water bottle turned squirt gun! (you have to practice a bit, but you can make it look like an accident!!!) especially if you aim, errr, down!

And remember to loudly exclaim, "dang spilled my water"!! that way, the SG MAY apologize to you!! (hehehehehe)


Ooh, good idea! Maybe a frustrated sigh would make it be more believable...;)

[danmedix]

My son does this with his capri sun pouches and juice boxes. Unfortunately, while he does send a message to the folks he thinks are annoying, he also thinks it's funny to squirt ME when all is said and done.....and yes, even though he's 5, he lays on the "WHOOPS" while giggling very quickly....

[Syndrome]

My dad, stepmom, and I were at Epcot with my grandma and 2 cousins. It was my grandma and cousins' first time at WDW, and of course we wanted it to be perfect for them. Everything went smoothly, until we sit down to watch Illuminations. This idiot in front of us HELD UP his videocamera during the ENTIRE show. :mad:
As a fan of that tragic disability known as Payback Syndrome, my tourettes would cause my hand to flap out uncontrollably in front of his lens while I spouted various obscenities loud enough for the soundtrack to pick up. "Sorry, can't help it, my condition is exacerbated by proximity to rude idiots."

My favorite payback was on a Disney cruise once when the jackass next to me kept taking flash photos and played the "I don't speak English" card when I told him to knock it off. I was hoping he'd use some English when I trampled the hell out of his feet while leaving so I could retort, "Gee, sorry, but I'm blind from your flash and can't see where I'm going." But he never said a word and actually jumped up on his seat when Mr. Syndrome passed...probably thought he was gonna get more of the same from someone weighing a good deal more with much bigger feet to do the trampling. :twisted:

[ktulu]

My favorite payback was on a Disney cruise once when the jackass next to me kept taking flash photos and played the "I don't speak English" card when I told him to knock it off. I was hoping he'd use some English when I trampled the hell out of his feet while leaving so I could retort, "Gee, sorry, but I'm blind from your flash and can't see where I'm going." But he never said a word and actually jumped up on his seat when Mr. Syndrome passed...probably thought he was gonna get more of the same from someone weighing a good deal more with much bigger feet to do the trampling. :twisted:

"Oh, I guess you won't understand that I have a SERIOUS flatulence problem and I just had a meal of beans, broccoli, and cabbage. I topped it off with a 3 milk shakes. Oh, I'm also lactose intolerant. And I have an incontinence issue. I also eat Olean chips like they are going out of style. Good luck!"

[BRWombat]

Disneyaddict, you may have noticed already that we have some wonderful but occasionally vicious people here. (Try doing a forum search on "Zazu" and "backpack"!!!) They're really, really nice people -- as long as you aren't an SG who's trying to ruin their fun!

:welcome: to :sgt: from :wallaby: and :wombat:!!! :D: :D: :D:

[Syndrome]

...wonderful but occasionally vicious people...
I just love that phrase. What a perfect description!

[mechurchlady]

"Oh, I guess you won't understand that I have a SERIOUS flatulence problem and I just had a meal of beans, broccoli, and cabbage. I topped it off with a 3 milk shakes. Oh, I'm also lactose intolerant. And I have an incontinence issue. I also eat Olean chips like they are going out of style. Good luck!"

That is disgusting and for me it is milk allergies and celiac which is the same as the olean chips. I wish I could time farts to go off in the face of rude people. I am pretty good at burping on cue though. Yeah Celiac.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

"Oh, I guess you won't understand that I have a SERIOUS flatulence problem and I just had a meal of beans, broccoli, and cabbage. I topped it off with a 3 milk shakes. Oh, I'm also lactose intolerant. And I have an incontinence issue. I also eat Olean chips like they are going out of style. Good luck!"

heheheheheh


beans, beans the magical fruit....


(the bad part is that sometimes the SG's are worse than the SBD's!!!)

[disneyaddict]

Disneyaddict, you may have noticed already that we have some wonderful but occasionally vicious people here. (Try doing a forum search on "Zazu" and "backpack"!!!) They're really, really nice people -- as long as you aren't an SG who's trying to ruin their fun!

:welcome: to :sgt: from :wallaby: and :wombat:!!! :D: :D: :D:


Sadly, many SGs aren't making a specific effort to ruin fun. It's just part of their natural behavior. :eek:

[Zazu]

Disneyaddict, you may have noticed already that we have some wonderful but occasionally vicious people here. (Try doing a forum search on "Zazu" and "backpack"!!!)Oh great, just how I want to be known, "Wonderful, but occasionally vicious." Good thing I'm among friends here; hate to think what my enemies are calling me.

Then again I may soon find out. Got one moron member of the non-profit I run threatening to sue me. Whether he files suit or not, he may find it very difficult to renew his membership.... :D:

[Main Streeter]

I have a SERIOUS flatulence problem and I just had a meal of beans, broccoli, and cabbage. I topped it off with a 3 milk shakes. Oh, I'm also lactose intolerant. And I have an incontinence issue. I also eat Olean chips like they are going out of style.
ktulu, you MUST have been @ The Emporium the other night. ;) Yes, am sure you were. :p:

[Main Streeter]

"Wonderful, but occasionally vicious."
Zazu, this "could" be carved on a tombstone. :D: NOT yours though. ;)

[ktulu]

ktulu, you MUST have been @ The Emporium the other night. ;) Yes, am sure you were. :p:

I WISH! If I am at the Emporium and I know how to find you, you'll know it ;)

Oct 11, 15-19 BTW ;)

[hobie16]

Got one moron member of the non-profit I run threatening to sue me.
He might change his mind once he finds out what the lawyer wants up front. of course there's always pro se.

[BRWombat]

He might change his mind once he finds out what the lawyer wants up front. of course there's always pro se.If I got to pick my opponents, I'd always prefer one with a seasoned, knowledgeable attorney. They're the ones who can be objective and honestly evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of their case and handle it appropriately. Those who represent themselves or who have a mediocre lawyer never seem to know when they're beaten, so it just drags things out unnecessarily.

[Big Wallaby]

:D: Marsupial Welcoming Committee - front and center!Whoops, sorry. Just got off the Monorail to see that Wombat had it taken care of. If you have any complaints regarding the services of Marsupial and Marsupial, please take it up with our complaint department sometime last week. They should be open then.
Sadly, many SGs aren't making a specific effort to ruin fun. It's just part of their natural behavior. :eek:Does it matter why they ruin the fun? My problem is, if they are doing it to me, how much easier is it to ruin it for another guest, especially one on their first visit who may not understand yet what the Disney experience is all about, but is just learning? When the SG comes along and marrs it for them to the point that that is what they expect to happen, it's time to take that SG out of the park. I can handle a SG doing their thing to me, but to another guest is disgusting. Those are the ones who get the vicious treatment, the ones with a complete apathy toward the experience of their fellow guest.
Whether he files suit or not, he may find it very difficult to renew his membership.... :D:Keep us updated on that story... of course, I suppose you may or may not be able to give details during the legal stuff... I am hoping the word difficult doesn't completely describe his trials and trevails.
If I got to pick my opponents, I'd always prefer one with a seasoned, knowledgeable attorney. They're the ones who can be objective and honestly evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of their case and handle it appropriately. Those who represent themselves or who have a mediocre lawyer never seem to know when they're beaten, so it just drags things out unnecessarily.Or you might have that lawyer who knows he's beaten but needs the money...

[hobie16]

Those who represent themselves or who have a mediocre lawyer never seem to know when they're beaten, so it just drags things out unnecessarily.
No kidding!!! I'm on a homeowner's association board. We just got done with a case that dragged on for TEN years because of the guy's ego and him going pro se. It took a decision by the state supreme court to finally nail his coffin closed.

[Goofyernmost]

Did you notice that the poorest of the poor all have lawyers. Whenever an injustice or perceived injustice happens to them the first words out of their mouths are "I'm going to call my Lawyer".

It tickles me since a large part of my job is customer service and at least 9 out of 10 people that call in even the most minor of complaints are ready to see their lawyer and have at us if we don't cough up a check to cover their pain and suffering.

These are people that we transport to the food shelf three times a day. They all seem to have lawyers on retainer and no matter what else they have to go without always have cell phones and cigarettes. It's a funny world. I can't wait to retire so I can sit on benches, call in complaints and demand money.

The real problem is not them as much is it is our society and businesses that will "settle" instead of fighting or even saying no. We are a society of wimps and deserve all the crap we get, I guess. Math in corporate circles is sadly lacking. They think that non paying customers must be kept at all costs because they don't want to offend them and possibly lose their business. In the words of Reba..."what a bunch of mo-rons".

[hobie16]

Their lawyers are probably ambulance chasers looking for a quick buck. Check out the Danny Devito character in Rain Man.

[DisneyMom]

Their lawyers are probably ambulance chasers looking for a quick buck. Check out the Danny Devito character in Rain Man.

Rain Man? I only remember Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.:confused:
I like Danny DeVito MUCH more than Cruise, tho, and any movie would be cooler with him in it!:D:

[hobie16]

Rain Man? I only remember Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.:confused:
I like Danny DeVito MUCH more than Cruise, tho, and any movie would be cooler with him in it!:D:
D'oh!! I meant The Rainmaker.

[Zazu]

No kidding!!! I'm on a homeowner's association board. We just got done with a case that dragged on for TEN years because of the guy's ego and him going pro se. It took a decision by the state supreme court to finally nail his coffin closed.Ah but the fun's only half over. Now you get to try to collect from him!

[hobie16]

Ah but the fun's only half over. Now you get to try to collect from him!
Ego/pro se boy also neglected to make any house payments as he was also suing the bank for enough money to pay off the house, the eight credit cards he and his wife had maxed out with out ever paying a dime on, a second mortgage, three personal loans, and us. After the last summary judgment session that determined he was full of hot air and there would be no trial, the bank foreclosed. The sale is the end of this month.

As we're in second place in the line of creditors, we should be made whole after the sale takes place. I'm going to show up at the courthouse to cheer on the bidders.

[Teddykeiko86]

When I worked at Shrek 4D, guest were NOT allowed to tape or photograph at ALL. So I constantly would be telling people no pictures, no tapping. What killed me the most was people trying to tape the 3D part of the show. One guest even though they were cleaver enough to put the 3D glasses over the lens of the camera.
Seeing a little red dot in a see of cattle watching the show, was a give away some one was filming. If we had flash lights, some CMs would shine the light in their face and yell " No filming" over the show. The biggest give away was the glow on the face from the camcorder screen.
Come to think of it, is it just me or do forgien tourists record the most? Also, I see many local latinos film and then pull the " I don't speak English" card.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

When I worked at Shrek 4D, guest were NOT allowed to tape or photograph at ALL. So I constantly would be telling people no pictures, no tapping. What killed me the most was people trying to tape the 3D part of the show. One guest even though they were cleaver enough to put the 3D glasses over the lens of the camera.
Seeing a little red dot in a see of cattle watching the show, was a give away some one was filming. If we had flash lights, some CMs would shine the light in their face and yell " No filming" over the show. The biggest give away was the glow on the face from the camcorder screen.
Come to think of it, is it just me or do forgien tourists record the most? Also, I see many local latinos film and then pull the " I don't speak English" card.

They give them a card?

Just hand it back and tell them you can't read it without 3-d glasses!!!

hehehehehehehe

(I know....)

[Elena (aka: Bubble Lady)]

They give them a card?

Just hand it back and tell them you can't read it without 3-d glasses!!!

hehehehehehehe

(I know....)

:hysteria:

[Captain C]

Mt theory, with all the money they pay to get in, they probably think they're
"special" and think they don't HAVE to listen. That, and a lot of people are just jerks :rolleyes:

[disneyaddict]

They give them a card?

Just hand it back and tell them you can't read it without 3-d glasses!!!

hehehehehehehe

(I know....)

That, or you could just take it so they can't use it again.

[turkeyham]

Did you know that all the money the parks make, it goes to up grade the areas and attractions of the parks? I took a special walking tour of the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland a few years back. The cast members don't get their money from the ticket gates. Each year it takes over $100,000 to re-furbish the plants and repaint the mansion.

Right now the Columbia Ship is dry docked and it is being rebuilt. It should be running by Nov. 7, 2008.

[EpcotFan]

Did you know that all the money the parks make, it goes to up grade the areas and attractions of the parks? I took a special walking tour of the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland a few years back. The cast members don't get their money from the ticket gates. Each year it takes over $100,000 to re-furbish the plants and repaint the mansion.

Right now the Columbia Ship is dry docked and it is being rebuilt. It should be running by Nov. 7, 2008.

Gee, I don't think the Walt Disney Company would keep running the parks if they weren't profitable. So I doubt that the full gate receipts are going to refurbs.

Back to the original topic -- what are the rules about photos/filming at Finding Nemo, the musical? I was there in spring and thought I heard contridictory announcements: #1 No filming or photography #2 No external video lighting or flash photography.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Gee, I don't think the Walt Disney Company would keep running the parks if they weren't profitable. So I doubt that the full gate receipts are going to refurbs.

Back to the original topic -- what are the rules about photos/filming at Finding Nemo, the musical? I was there in spring and thought I heard contridictory announcements: #1 No filming or photography #2 No external video lighting or flash photography.

I was there about a week ago, and a CM confrmed to me that even though my digital camera would take pictures and/or mpeg's without flash/lighting, they discouraged it because the light could cause a safety issue with the performers, and some people can't seem to find the "flash off" control on their cameras.

So I just enjoyed the performance without having to futz with the settings on my camera!!

[drcorey]

I like the ones who try to film the big drop on Splash Mountain, then they cry to Guest Services that the ride broke thier video cameras...
duh people, it's a water ride! I think I acually heard a camcorder pop once.

[darph nader]

Mt theory, with all the money they pay to get in, they probably think they're
"special" and think they don't HAVE to listen. That, and a lot of people are just jerks :rolleyes:

And that is why this board exists.:cool:

[turkeyham]

I would avoid taking a camcorder on Splash Mountain. Yes, the water soaks you and the camera. You can dry out, but the camera is finished. My sister from Benton Harbor try to bring a old tape camcorder on the ToT and I ended getting smacked in the face when she lost her grip. It is just not a good idea. Leave it in the hotel room. :D:

[queenie82]

Re taking cameras on Splash Mountain and getting wet...

I remember being on Jurassic Park at Universal with a boatload of Japanese men in business suits all with their cameras out...:eek:

They looked a little different when we got out :D: and I'm not sure how their cameras survived......

[DisneyMom]

Love your Avatar Queenie!:)
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