Why do people have to trespass in roped-off areas??

[Disneyguy85]

Alright, late last night I was around the new Pixie Hollow area in Disneyland. Of course, it being late at night (and since its not officially opened yet) the area was roped off, and yet, I saw several people go under/over the ropes like nobody's business and were roaming around the area, and some had even unfastened the ropes of the meet and greet exit to get pictures.

Why don't people have any respect?? The area was closed, and yet they went in anyway as if it was their right.

This is a matter of principal more than anything else. If an area is roped off, you are not supposed to go into it.

Why can't people be respectful of the rules?

I swear, I am losing more and more faith in the human race each day.

[pattimelt]

It's the draw of the unknown, I guess.

And stand in line if you're losing faith in the human race, cause I've about hit my last nerve lately.

I know times are tough, but geez, people, if you can't afford to pay the price to come to the park, then STAY THE HECK HOME!!! Don't call me after you were an idiot and bought tickets off ebay or craigslist-- and then want to know if the ticket is VALID. Sorry, you're an idiot. The ticket states that they are NOT TRANSFERABLE, and no matter what that seller told you, if we ask you for information about that ticket, and you don't know the answer, we WILL take that ticket from you, and you will be telling your daugher/son that "that mean lady won't let you in to Disneyland." And while your kid starts screaming at me and crying, I'll come right back and say "if you weren't such a cheap ass, your kid would be in Disneyland already."

And no, I will not sign you into the park, 1) cause I don't know you; and 2) because I'm afraid you'll be an idiot.

It's gotten to the point where I'm AFRAID to sign people in the park that I'm not sure of. My friend actually had to sign in her family and some friends of her husband's, and the kid of the friends ended up shoplifting and Anaheim PD was called so that the park could press charges! My friend got in all kinds of trouble for that one!!

UGH.. Insomnia is a pain..

[DLRFantasmic!Dan]

And no, I will not sign you into the park, 1) cause I don't know you; and 2) because I'm afraid you'll be an idiot.

It's gotten to the point where I'm AFRAID to sign people in the park that I'm not sure of. My friend actually had to sign in her family and some friends of her husband's, and the kid of the friends ended up shoplifting and Anaheim PD was called so that the park could press charges! My friend got in all kinds of trouble for that one!!

That sucks. You are responsible for the people you sign in. They do something stupid, you get in trouble. You can't seem to trust people nowadays.

[hobie16]

My friend actually had to sign in her family and some friends of her husband's, and the kid of the friends ended up shoplifting and Anaheim PD was called so that the park could press charges! My friend got in all kinds of trouble for that one!!
Damn!! No good deed goes unpunished.

[Disneyguy85]

.And stand in line if you're losing faith in the human race...

I'm glad that I'm not the only one.

[felinefan]

Yeah, when I worked at Knott's, when I was scheduled to work on the train and there was a concert, etc., and we had to do crowd control--UGH! People are so stupid these days! You try to tell them to please stay in the lines, they laugh at you and say you take your job too seriously. We train conductors hated doing crowd control. I know what you mean, I'm in line with ya.

[turkeyham]

I have seen SG let their little kids wonder under the chains in Town Square. They let them go up the the flay poles messing with the ropes. Sorry folks, you should be the ones kicked in the rear. Monkeys see monkey do.

It is the same way for Fantasmic! These SG will climb on the railings and into the renced in areas. Get out of there. This is not a safe area for you to be in. If you are warned by cast members, you will obey them. If you do not, Anahiem PD will see that you do so. If you do ignore the warning and you fall on the railing face first, consider yourself as a short listener and a major SG.:twisted:

[mechurchlady]

I think back to when I have gone under a rope. I just wanted a quick photograph, just go get something that fell into the off limit area, or take a short cut. I never saw it as dangerous. People do not see danger and what harm is there when the kids are playing in a meet-&-greet area or with the flags. They do not seem to see ropes as a no tresspassing sign.

Ask people and you probably will hear how they did not know it was off limits.
I confess that I have gone past a rope or chain.

[Big Wallaby]

The security fences at MK need to be a foot taller. Today it was a man in his late 60's at youngest going over it. When I told him not to (before he started) he thanked me and proceeded to do it. I find that I really annoy people when they do that because I follow them and repeat myself until I am satisfied that they are exasperated with me and maybe a little embarrassed by the looks people are giving them. Then there's that time Security saw me doing that to some people and took over.

[DLRFantasmic!Dan]

This happens on a daily basis in DCA at the HPB backdrop near the Hyperion Theater. SGs would go under or over the velvet rope to take photo. For those who don't know, the street is sloped to make it longer then the street really is. I just wanted to yell at them and smack them in the head to going somewhere there isn't suppose to me.

Actually, a friend of mine yelled at a kid to get out of the planters at the Hub. That was AWESOME!!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

maybe they need to start braiding barb wire into the ropes?

hehehehehe

[Terrytunes]

maybe they need to start braiding barb wire into the ropes?

hehehehehe

....or electricity maybe?

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

....or electricity maybe?

Well, they are trying to save energy!!

besides, given the rising number of SG's, they would probably need another power plant on-line, just to handle the power consumption!!!

(how DOES one braid electricity into a rope? hehehehehehe)

[felinefan]

Yeah, electrified barbed wire--if the barbs don't stop them, the zap will(hopefully)!

Personally, I'm in favor of dart guns to take out SGs, or some kind of minefield in the forbidden area--:kaboom::twisted:.

[Cheshire Figment]

If you have ever been to Typhoon Lagoon, right behind Lagunagator is a photo backdrop area. It includes sand, a volleyball net, a Pontiac woody, some surfboards, etc.

To get into that area you have to climb over wood posts which vary in height from one to three feet or walk through some shrubs. It is intended to be a backdrop for people to take photos against.

They will not post "Keep Off" signs as it will be bad show.

When working as turnstile greeter we also have to keep an eye out to keep people from getting up there. I have not only told people to get down, but gotten in front of the parents and blocked them from taking pictures. I have also been reported as rude to guests (by the concerned guests) for telling them that a wall does mean keep off.

(We do allow climbing on Lagunagator, he is smooth concrete and cannot be damaged.)

[hobie16]

(We do allow climbing on Lagunagator, he is smooth concrete and cannot be damaged.)
Where there's a will, there's a way.

[Disneyguy85]

Personally, I'm in favor of dart guns to take out SGs, or some kind of minefield in the forbidden area

That would be awesome! Mwahahah!

[turkeyham]

In my condo complex, the last security company put slippery grease under the bobwire fences. You can see clothes ripped and a foot slide in the grease. Below the bobwire fence are rose bushes. :twisted: It would hurt too if you saw some one try to get over it.

I think some rusty nails and broken glass would stop these SG in their tracks. :D:

[Ms. Matterhorn]

In my condo complex, the last security company put slippery grease under the bobwire fences. You can see clothes ripped and a foot slide in the grease. Below the bobwire fence are rose bushes.
Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

In my condo complex, the last security company put slippery grease under the bobwire fences. You can see clothes ripped and a foot slide in the grease. Below the bobwire fence are rose bushes. :twisted: It would hurt too if you saw some one try to get over it.

I think some rusty nails and broken glass would stop these SG in their tracks. :D:

Well Bobwire WAS invented to keep elves out of a garden, so it SHOULD work for SG's!!

hehehehehehe


I like the grease touch!

Even better idea, put grease on the rope for the area you want to rope off!!

and then put pixie dust on that!!! extra added magic!!!

hehehe

[Zazu]

Where there's a will, there's a way.Yup! For a good time, hand a bowling ball to a Marine and tell him not to break it. Fun for the whole family! (assuming your family is somewhat warped and immune to obscenity).

[turkeyham]

Our local police department came up with the grease situation. They were sick and tired of coming out to my complex. After hearing that there was grease being attached to the upper walls, the crime rate dropped completely. Now these days who ever has a car broken into, the sherrif comes out and dusts it for finger prints. The last break in was caused by a SG residence and he did end up staying in jail because this was his strike against him. :eek:

[Ms. Matterhorn]

In my condo complex, the last security company put slippery grease under the bobwire fences.
I'm sorry, but Ms. Matterhorn, Spelling Nazi, just can't stand it anymore! It's barbed wire, or barb wire! It's not wire invented by some guy named Bob! Okay, it's just one of my quirks! Deal with it!:mad:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I'm sorry, but Ms. Matterhorn, Spelling Nazi, just can't stand it anymore! It's barbed wire, or barb wire! It's not wire invented by some guy named Bob! Okay, it's just one of my quirks! Deal with it!:mad:

ummmm:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Bobwire

ya gotta admit...its funny!!!

hehehehehehe

okay here:
http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/index.htm

[hobie16]

I'm sorry, but Ms. Matterhorn, Spelling Nazi, just can't stand it anymore! It's barbed wire, or barb wire! It's not wire invented by some guy named Bob! Okay, it's just one of my quirks! Deal with it!:mad:
It was invented by Louis Jannin in 1865. Interestingly, bob or bobbed wire is a dialect form of barbed wire. Here's the quote.

"Barbed wire, also known as barb wire (and frequently in dialect form spelled bob or bobbed), is a type of fencing wire constructed with sharp edges or points arranged at intervals along the strand(s). It is used to construct inexpensive fences and is used atop walls surrounding secured property. It is also a major feature of the fortifications in trench warfare (as a wire obstacle)."

[Disneyguy85]

This message board is nothing if not informative.

[Ms. Matterhorn]

ummmm:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Bobwire
ya gotta admit...its funny!!!

Yeah, I asked for that! But GP, did ya check out my Marky Maypo video on that other thread?

[felinefan]

I remember back in the 60s, I was reading an issue of Life magazine, and they had a feature on new weapons for police in dealing with rioters. If you're not old enough to remember the 60s, there were alot of protests, some violent, for women's rights, anti-war, racial equality, etc.. The three new weapons were the riot tank, which blasted protesters with extremely loud sirens as well as tear gas; liquid mace, which is still in use, though somewhat supplanted by pepper spray; and what was referred to as "Instant Banana Peel". It was a powder that was sprinkled on pavement in front of an approaching pack of protesters, then wetted down with firehoses. Standing on it, never mind walking or running on it, would cause one to hit the ground instantly, as it was super-slippery. The riot tank is sometimes still used, though mostly overseas, from what I've seen lately; whatever became of Instant Banana Peel, I wonder? That would be great for keeping SGs off forbidden areas.

[turkeyham]

Thanks for the correct on spelling the word. I wonder where you get the banana powder? That made me think, that stuff would be good for the high speed chases out here in CA. When the suspect makes a run for it, we would not make it to far. ;)

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Yeah, I asked for that! But GP, did ya check out my Marky Maypo video on that other thread?

Yes....and its sad that I remember seeing them on T.V.!!!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I remember back in the 60s, I was reading an issue of Life magazine, and they had a feature on new weapons for police in dealing with rioters. If you're not old enough to remember the 60s, there were alot of protests, some violent, for women's rights, anti-war, racial equality, etc.. The three new weapons were the riot tank, which blasted protesters with extremely loud sirens as well as tear gas; liquid mace, which is still in use, though somewhat supplanted by pepper spray; and what was referred to as "Instant Banana Peel". It was a powder that was sprinkled on pavement in front of an approaching pack of protesters, then wetted down with firehoses. Standing on it, never mind walking or running on it, would cause one to hit the ground instantly, as it was super-slippery. The riot tank is sometimes still used, though mostly overseas, from what I've seen lately; whatever became of Instant Banana Peel, I wonder? That would be great for keeping SGs off forbidden areas.


Oh my!! I remember training with Instant Banana Peel!!

The problem was that the stuff would render an area useless and had to be scrubbed down with a cleaner.

some of the more modern stuff is being developed by the military has a similar effect!!!

[BirdMom]

whatever became of Instant Banana Peel, I wonder? That would be great for keeping SGs off forbidden areas.

I'd like an extra large order of that stuff for the California letters in front of DCA...

[hobie16]

I'd like an extra large order of that stuff for the California letters in front of DCA...
That's a perfect example of taxpayers money being used to develop stuff for the military and uses found in the civilian sector. Can you say GPS?

[Terrytunes]

That's a perfect example of taxpayers money being used to develop stuff for the military and uses found in the civilian sector. Can you say GPS?


Can you say "Internet"?

[ktulu]

Can you say "Internet"?

Vint Cerf was the keynote speaker at my conference. Best keynote speaker so far!

[mechurchlady]

I'd like an extra large order of that stuff for the California letters in front of DCA...

Install an automatic stop at the end of each row of theater seats. Put Instant Banana Peel on the seats and watch SGTs slide all the way to the end.

[turkeyham]

That banana stuff would be good for an instant slip and slide water slide. You don't need the slide any more. Place it where you want it, add water and it will keep the kids entertained for the whole summer. :D:

Also, for those who don't pay attention when the line moves for a busy attraction, that would be useful. I think it would be good for It's a Small World and Finging Nemo. :cool:

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Yes....and its sad that I remember seeing them on T.V.!!!

Arrrr, sure and it would be sadder if ya didn't!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Arrrr, sure and it would be sadder if ya didn't!

well...YES, there is always THAT aspect!

but then again...

thats WHY there is RUM!!!!


hehehehehehe

[turkeyham]

I think you are right, but it would be fun for the annoying cheer leaders. They cheer and slide away from you, so you won't loose your hearing.

Where do you get the banana powder from? I have never heard of it. All I know they sell dry ice in the super markets and it can be deadly used the wrong way. Home made M-80's. :eek:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I think you are right, but it would be fun for the annoying cheer leaders. They cheer and slide away from you, so you won't loose your hearing.

Where do you get the banana powder from? I have never heard of it. All I know they sell dry ice in the super markets and it can be deadly used the wrong way. Home made M-80's. :eek:

I don't think its available!

[felinefan]

If you are or know an amateur chemist--or a professional with a lot of time on their hands--I suppose you could replicate it.

[DisneyMom]

Would Dry Ice be good for sending chocolate in the mail, or would I blow up something?:eek:

[hobie16]

Would Dry Ice be good for sending chocolate in the mail, or would I blow up something?:eek:
Dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide. It won't hurt anything. Check with the shipper in advance for any restrictions. FedEx will ship it as a friend sent me a rib dinner for eight from Texas.

[turkeyham]

Dry ice was used when my sister shipped frozen fish from Alaska. I know it keeps food rock hard. Have you tried biting into the ice cream at Disneyland? I tell you, you have to let it melt for about 20 minutes before you bite into it. Other wise you can break a tooth on their ice cream bars. :cool:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide. It won't hurt anything. Check with the shipper in advance for any restrictions. FedEx will ship it as a friend sent me a rib dinner for eight from Texas.

True, I got some of the Omaha steaks that way.

(the steaks were't that great.)

[Just Me]

All I know they sell dry ice in the super markets and it can be deadly used the wrong way. Home made M-80's. :eek:

The "wrong way" here is to put the dry ice in an airtight container. When the frozen CO2 sublimates and expands it puts pressure on the container. If the container's not airtight then the gas has a place to go safely. If the container is airtight, the gas just builds until the container bursts. This is only fun when watching it on Mythbusters as it is quite destructive. Geeze, am I giving 'terrorist' lessons here?

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

The "wrong way" here is to put the dry ice in an airtight container. When the frozen CO2 sublimates and expands it puts pressure on the container. If the container's not airtight then the gas has a place to go safely. If the container is airtight, the gas just builds until the container bursts. This is only fun when watching it on Mythbusters as it is quite destructive. Geeze, am I giving 'terrorist' lessons here?

Umm, I think any kid that has had a basic science class knows about this stuff.

[turkeyham]

Today while food shopping, this lady bought some dry ice. She was given a medium chunk and complained she needed more. This stuff was double bagged in plastic veggie bags. Is there a certain limit that is sold? :confused:

[DisneyMom]

Umm, I think any kid that has had a basic science class knows about this stuff.

oooops, they probably did teach it in my science class, but there was this cute boy.........:o:

[felinefan]

True, I got some of the Omaha steaks that way.

(the steaks were't that great.)


I've gotten Omaha Steaks and I think they are the greatest! By the time they got to me, most of the dry ice had sublimated, so I put the rest out on the balcony (in one of our former apartments) until there was nothing left but the bag, which ended in the trash.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

oooops, they probably did teach it in my science class, but there was this cute boy.........:o:

AND????????

okay, if you want to keep it a secret

(just whisper when you type!!)


hehehehehehehehehe

[hobie16]

oooops, they probably did teach it in my science class, but there was this cute boy.........:o:
Was the day's lesson about hormones? :D:

[DisneyMom]

Was the day's lesson about hormones? :D:

In High School, EVERY day is Hormone Day!:eek:
Isn't that why we are anxious for them to go to college, to catch up on any missed lessons?;)

[Mayonnaise]

The "wrong way" here is to put the dry ice in an airtight container. When the frozen CO2 sublimates and expands it puts pressure on the container. If the container's not airtight then the gas has a place to go safely. If the container is airtight, the gas just builds until the container bursts. This is only fun when watching it on Mythbusters as it is quite destructive. Geeze, am I giving 'terrorist' lessons here?

Nah... a few genius theater techs though it would be funny to set one of those off in the empty house (as in theater house, where the seats are in a theater, ours are removable, and we only put the seats in on show weekends) during a cast party after strike in the Playhouse. They had left over dry ice from a fog effect in the show... they used just a little in a 20 ounce soda bottle... and at the last minute, being engineers, realized just how fast the plastic shrapnel was going to be going, and decided it was a bad idea. So they picked it up and ran it to the stainless steel sink in the set shop... one of those square, not embedded in any kind of counter industrial looking things.

When the bottle went off... it cracked the sink.

They had a bit fo a time explain to the executive committee why they needed to buy a new sink for the setshop.

8^P

[hobie16]

They had a bit fo a time explain to the executive committee why they needed to buy a new sink for the setshop.
Did they use the Chinese steel excuse?

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Several "hate" groups have used those bombs to blow things up at churches.

It is amazing how much damage one of them can cause, especialy if you attach something to the outside of the bottle.

[Mayonnaise]

Jeepers... if a 20 ounce soda bottle broke a stainless steel sink... I can't imagine what would happen if you taped something more substantial to the bottle... *Shudders.*

And Hobie... no... they basicaly had to grovel and do a lot of promising never to do anything so dumb ever again.

8^)

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Jeepers... if a 20 ounce soda bottle broke a stainless steel sink... I can't imagine what would happen if you taped something more substantial to the bottle... *Shudders.*

And Hobie... no... they basicaly had to grovel and do a lot of promising never to do anything so dumb ever again.

8^)

Well, under the law it is classed as an explosive device, and yes you can be investigated/arrested for setting one off!

[jsilvers]

....or electricity maybe?

Torn from today's headlines (well, last week's...):

After Shawn Turschak saw two sets of McCain-Palin signs disappear from his yard within hours of being planted, he took steps to protect the latest pair.

On Monday, he ran wires from his house and hooked the signs into a power source for an electric pet fence. Then he mounted a surveillance camera in a nearby tree and wired it to a digital recorder. ...

The deputy who investigated Tuesday said the pet-fence setup probably was legal, Turschak said, but perhaps more trouble than it was worth. ...
Full tale at http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/866616.html.

[turkeyham]

When my brother went through training at ODV-Outdoor vending, he said the fire department showed them what happens when you add dry ice to a water bottle. The fire department placed the dry ice in a small water bottle with coke in it. The sealed it and put it on a wooden pallet. A few seconds later there was a explosion. What was left was a dark circle with a small crater. The pallet was history. So, yes I believe this stuff is dangerous and it should not get into the hands of those who don't know how to handle it.:eek:

[DLRFantasmic!Dan]

Sorry to bump this up, but yesterday, I witnessed a SG and Family try to get into Pixie Hollow.............. after it was closed. Not sure what they were doing. Maybe they thought it was open and they wanted to get in it. They crossed over series of chains to get in and find out it was closed.

Also, I seen on several occasions, SG would want to take a picture in the walkway leading into Tomorrowland across from Sleeping Beauty Castle, in order to get a full picture, a SG would hope over the fence into the planters to get a good picture. It just peeves me that SGs don't have respect for boundaries.

[Lasolimu]

One night on my recent trip to DLR, I believe it was Thursday when the park closed early for a grad night, we were going to do one more thing before heading back to the hotel and because we were in Tomorrowland we thought we would take a look at Innoventions. Well, we didn't see any CMs there so we figured it was closed for the night which seems to be fairly typical because you don't want people just getting in as the park closes. We did see a couple of guests up there wanting in so we start thinking that maybe it is open, the CM just walked away for a second, and we start walking towards the entrance. Sure enough, the chain was up and there were two trash cans blocking the entrance so the SGs must have climbed over it thinking it was open. Maybe they thought that spinning means open, I don't know, but there they were. I believe that we decided to do Nemo instead, it's a lot faster to get on when you have a wheelchair (as I have discussed on here before we don't need it in our daily lives, but certain parties are now unable to do the walking required for the parks).

[Disneyguy85]

Sorry to bump this up, but yesterday, I witnessed a SG and Family try to get into Pixie Hollow.............. after it was closed. Not sure what they were doing. Maybe they thought it was open and they wanted to get in it. They crossed over series of chains to get in and find out it was closed.

Yup. That's pretty much the kind of thing that I saw when wrote the first post in this thread. Only again, during the evening that I saw this, Pixie Hollow was not even officially opened yet, (it was still quite a few days away) and yet there were people who were literally ducking under the many chains to get in.

...At least Pixie Hollow will soon remain open after dusk, so this problem will go away for a while.

[DLRFantasmic!Dan]

Yup. That's pretty much the kind of thing that I saw when wrote the first post in this thread. Only again, during the evening that I saw this, Pixie Hollow was not even officially opened yet, (it was still quite a few days away) and yet there were people who were literally ducking under the many chains to get in.

...At least Pixie Hollow will soon remain open after dusk, so this problem will go away for a while.

A while ago, I witness the same exact situation with a different family. Family of 5 complete with stroller went into Pixie Hollow after closing and disregarding all the chains and walked right in. They came out of the exit that was blocked by the store shelves. they had to push it away.

[Disneyguy85]

SGs: Boundaries are for chumps!