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Syndrome
06-02-2008, 10:19 AM
This isn't exactly a theme park SGT but it was a flight to MCO so it sorta/kinda counts. I was on SW, which has no assigned seating, and was fortunate enough to get the exit row window, with someone already in the aisle (I was flying solo). Across the aisle and one row back, somone had the window and there was a dude on the aisle spreading his stuff on the middle in a transparent attempt to scare people away. It worked with a granny who eyed that seat, then plopped down in the middle in my row. Once the door was closed and we were ready to go, SGG (Stupid Greedy Guest) moved his stuff and she realized it was open.
She asked me if I thought it would be okay for her to pop over there for takeoff as she really wanted to see her grandson's face in the row accross, since it was his very first flight (that was why she had wanted to that seat). I said, "Sure, it's Southwest, it's open seating." So she pops over but returns once we were airborn and said, "That man was really upset that I sat there." I told her not to worry about it, and she stayed in my row.
You'd think that would be the end of it, but when we all got up to wait to deplane, SGG lays into this poor old lady! He's all in her face telling her how rude she was to dare to step over him and sit in that seat. Finally I had to jump in to inform him that if he wants assigned seats, maybe Southwest isn't for him. I got the sense he didn't like a woman, and one in an Avenue Q t-shirt, jeans and flip-flops to boot, giving him a dose of reality (I had been in Chicago for a whirlwind theater weekend. So he says in his most condesceneding tone, "Well, I've probably flown a little more than you." In my sweetest little voice, I said, "Don't judge a book by its cover. I happen to own three businesses and have probably traveled more in my lifetime than you could ever hope to." (Probably quite true, since I didn't see his butt up there in a A-List line, were I was the third person to board).
His intelligent answer to that was, "Blah, blah, blah," and then he pushed in front of everyone and left the plane. The grandma thanked me, and another passenger also reassured her that she did nothing wrong and was just dealing with a jerk. Dude obviously forgot to take his meds this morning.
SRT_GB
06-02-2008, 10:33 AM
I think that anyone who has an overblown sense of entitlement like this SGG while flying on Southwest needs to get their head out of the clouds (or their ass, whatever the case may be).
Just hope this clown wasn't headed to WDW.
smart1hermione
06-02-2008, 10:54 AM
Poor grandma! It's sad to know that people are still living by playground ethics: grab what you can and then it's YOURS.
Unassigned seating is a great idea for a lot of reasons, but airlines seems to forget people are human (some more than others) and therefore, irrational.
Mayonnaise
06-02-2008, 10:59 AM
This sounds like the same kind of jerk that lays into people for sitting on the same park bench as them, at the other end, and/or insists on a 1 empty seat buffer on either side of their party in a sold out movie theater.
And that whole "I've flown more than you," gambit he tried on you was such BS. I'm glad you were a REAL frequent flier able to shot him down. Half the time when people say that sort of thing, it's a lie anyhow. they think if they claim to be some how "more experianced" at whatever with no back up at all, you'll concede to their superior knowledge, and let me tell you, being an infrequent flier myself, that probably would have worked on me and then I'd have been all taken aback and ashamed at my lack of airline knowledge.
It's the same as when older teenagers tell younger kids lies about what being "grown up" lets them do, so the younger ones won't tattle on them for smoking in the restroom, reaching up the vending machine, or whatever. The younger kids don't know any better and believe them. Without you there, poor grandma might have doubted herself and felt embarrassed for her airline faux pa.
Good on ya telling him off.
8^)
Syndrome
06-02-2008, 11:23 AM
Yeah, that's why I like keeping a low profile and not necessarily looking like you would expect for someone who spent two stinkin' years commuting by air every week or a business owner or a doctor or psychology. It makes the words taste so much sweeter when I shock the poop out of someone like him and he realizes that a line of BS won't work with me.
Heck, maybe I should told him I was a shrink, handed him one of my cards, and offered him a discounted rate for his obvious anger issues. Then I could have winked at him and said, "Anyone who attacks old ladies has some obvious issues with their mommy, eh?" :twisted:
February
06-02-2008, 11:33 AM
Heck, maybe I should told him I was a shrink, handed him one of my cards, and offered him a discounted rate for his obvious anger issues. Then I could have winked at him and said, "Anyone who attacks old ladies has some obvious issues with their mommy, eh?" :twisted:
ROFL!
I got the sense he didn't like a woman, and one in an Avenue Q t-shirt, jeans and flip-flops to boot, giving him a dose of reality
"It sucks to be him. . ." *whistles* I guess he didn't have a BA in English or he'd have been able to express himself more eloquently than BLAH BLAH BLAH
ROFL
Bru
(too many musicals in my head. . .)
ktulu
06-02-2008, 11:37 AM
I would have lied to him and told him I was a pilot :D:
Syndrome
06-02-2008, 11:45 AM
"It sucks to be him. . ." *whistles* I guess he didn't have a BA in English or he'd have been able to express himself more eloquently than BLAH BLAH BLAH
Double ROFL! I'll bet it sucks to be him even more than to be Gary Coleman! :p: Too bad he didn't trip in the jetway so the rest of us could have indulged in a little Schadenfreude.
Big Wallaby
06-02-2008, 04:28 PM
I would have lied to him and told him I was a pilot :D:
For me? It wouldn't have been lying.
Of course, the fact that I don't mean I'm an airline pilot means nothing in this case, but he doesn't need to know that.
Great response to him would have been to ask how much he's flown, then ask him how much you've flown. Let him stammer for a while before allowing him the truth. Then, if you're ahead of him, have difficulty getting to your bags, but make sure he can't get by. Hope he doesn't attack you, because if he does he goes to prison for a wonderful, all-expense-paid vacation with Bubba, who I understand might be looking for a wife.
mechurchlady
06-02-2008, 07:11 PM
I would have gotten up and gotten a steward in private and explained that the dude would not let the old lady have a seat then lie and say he called her a "the B word" when she tried to sit in the seat to see her grandson. I would make up the best story line possible and get the steward to do something. and if not he would get his chair back and butt well massaged by my foot as I can make life a living hell.
Come to think of it I would take the seat next to him and make his life hell. You just got to deal with thejm and teach them that it is skinny quiet granny or fat stinky broad with problems, lol.
ktulu
06-02-2008, 07:58 PM
For me? It wouldn't have been lying.
Of course, the fact that I don't mean I'm an airline pilot means nothing in this case, but he doesn't need to know that.
Either you got your private from the FAA or you are now riding the beam, either way, you didn't exactly give us the news my friend :)
DisneyMom
06-02-2008, 08:07 PM
Aaaaaargh! ATTACKING a little old lady??????!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:
What a tiny little peni........oooops, I mean, heart!:twisted:
hobie16
06-02-2008, 09:29 PM
Heck, maybe I should told him I was a shrink, handed him one of my cards, and offered him a discounted rate for his obvious anger issues. Then I could have winked at him and said, "Anyone who attacks old ladies has some obvious issues with their mommy, eh?" :twisted:
Very good!!!
Big Wallaby
06-02-2008, 09:48 PM
Either you got your private from the FAA or you are now riding the beam, either way, you didn't exactly give us the news my friend :)The pilot thing where I had to land was from before my days at SGT. I don't have any certifications, but I did make it to solo. I've talked with enough pilots who say that makes me a pilot.
GRUMPY PIRATE
06-02-2008, 10:59 PM
???
Getting in an argument with a moron about the seat is like trying to teach the proverbial pig to sing.
Simply call the flight attendant, before take off, and say that the man is acting very agitated and seems to want an entire row of seats by himself, as he has spread out all his carry on equiptment, and seems to be doing something with all that stuff, and that you are very nervous that he appears to be very anti-social. Point out that when another passenger tried to set in the same row, he MADE her move. And also point out that when you or others look at him, he stares back and seems to be very aggressive.
You must word it right and appear to be very worried. Try and not crack a smile when saying this.
The flight might be slightly delayed while some other personnel help him with his seating and carry ons.
hehehehehe
make you government work for YOU!!
felinefan
06-03-2008, 01:45 AM
I would also add, "Are you sure he was screened carefully? I could be wrong, but I thought I saw something suspicious in is waistband/briefcase/whatever works.":twisted:
Syndrome
06-03-2008, 07:29 AM
If only he had shown his true colors early on, that would have been such a lovely little episode. :twisted:
Sort of like the woman and kid (older one) who waltzed on a Southwest plane last, just before takeoff on one of Mr. Syndrome's flights, then demanded two seats together. People shuffled around and freed up the back row. Oh no, that wasn't good enough for her and she declared she WOULD NOT sit there and someone else WOULD move and give her a better row. The FA said, "Either sit down right now or you're not flying at all today." The woman refused and they hauled her butt off. The plane was delayed 20 mins. while they found and removed her luggage, but I think I would have been savoring every minute picturing her flipping out in the airport.
The funny thing is, dude yesterday must have sat there and stewed for the whole two hours. Okay, he chased Granny away. Baby got his extra empty seat. It's over and done with. Why attack her at the end of the flight? Probably went home and beat his wife.
Big Wallaby
06-03-2008, 09:44 AM
The woman refused and they hauled her butt off. The plane was delayed 20 mins. while they found and removed her luggage, but I think I would have been savoring every minute picturing her flipping out in the airport.Too bad they took her luggage off. Much better picture is her flipping out at the airport and then finding out her luggage went wherever she thought she had been going. I do, however, feel sorry for her kid, who was probably embarrassed as hell.
Probably went home and beat his wife.I'm going to take a moment and call "Not Funny" here because it's very possibly true.
February
06-03-2008, 09:50 AM
I'm going to take a moment and call "Not Funny" here because it's very possibly true.
Yeah- I'm going to even venture a little bit further and say that if he had one, I would more likely say that was probably true :(
Big Wallaby
06-03-2008, 10:02 AM
Yeah- I'm going to even venture a little bit further and say that if he had one, I would more likely say that was probably true :(So now my hope is that if that is the case and she is being abused, maybe we'll save her if she finds this site after a search for Southwest.
Syndrome
06-03-2008, 10:36 AM
Indeed...speaking from a professional standpoint as a counselor, he truly does show the signs of an abuser. It's not normal for someone to stew over something so minor for two hours. She sat next to him, he didn't like it and said something nasty, and she moved away as soon as she could. That should have been case closed. To lay into her in front of all those people at the end of the flight, when she wasn't interacting with him or even looking at him, is a glaring example of an anger management issue and a tendency to lash out inappropriately.
Like most abusers, he was a coward too. He was quick to pick on a harmless, meek granny but he backed down quick from someone who wouldn't take his crap. And it's weird, but I really got that "Women are inferior...how dare a woman mouth off to me" vibe from him when I confronted him. I have a pretty good instinct because much of my internship was working with families in a domestic violence program. Too bad cowards like that won't do anything in public in front of witnesses unless they know it's a meek victim. It would have been worth taking a punch to watch his sorry ass get dragged down the jetway in handcuffs. :twisted:
NessaMcTastic
06-03-2008, 11:49 AM
Okay I had to come out of the woodwork for this one.
This story reminds me of when I was flying to Nashville with my mom, my (at the time) 4 year old nephew and my 8 year old neice. After dealing with a bunch of airline SNAFUs (every plane we got on broke down!) we're on our way to TN to visit my sister. Unfortunately, our tickets had us sitting one behind the other.
I was about 13 at the time so Mom let me sit by myself since I was just in the row in front of her. She had the two little ones sitting next to her hoping that who ever was given the seats next to her would understand. The husband and wife that were seated next to her insisted on making the 4 year old sit by himself. :eek:
I saw what was going on and I flagged over one of the stewards to help us resolve this. Some seats were shuffled (it was an empty flight anyway!) but there was lots of mutterings from the couple about how "Certain people think they own the place" and "those people are ruining America". I can only assume "those people" meant the fact that my mom speaks very little English and she and I were speaking in Spanish.
Syndrome
06-03-2008, 12:26 PM
You just have to hope that karma comes around and bites that sort in the butt. Now mind you, I can be quite possessive of my seat, especially if I took special care to get it (got online right at the 24 hour mark etc.), and I'm not in the habit of letting a lack of planning on the part of others become an emergency on my part. But I also believe in being flexible and...dare I say it...nice to my fellow human beings every now and then.
For example, before ATA went belly up we had ultra-elite-secret-handshake status on them because we were flying every week. Mr Syndrome and I had our special two-across exit row that we took great pains to reserve. So one day the person behind me taps my shoulder and says, "I want to apologize in advance if I bump or kick the seat but I'm afraid I can't help it!" I looked at him, and he was basketball player height and folded into his seat like an accordian. I gave him my nice, roomy exit row...at 5'3" I can live with just about any seat for two hours, but for him I'm sure it made a difference.
And the karma really does come back...when we flew to Ireland last year, we were squished into a regular row with a baby behind us who was just tuning up its lungs with some gorgeous screaming exercises. The flight attendant asked if we'd mind changing seats. We didn't even ask any detail because we figured someone needed to move to be with kids or whatever, and any seats they would have moved us to couldn't be much worse. Surprise, surprise! They put us in a lovely, roomy exit row. We were very glad we had volunteered to move.
February
06-03-2008, 12:26 PM
Okay I had to come out of the woodwork for this one.
This story reminds me of when I was flying to Nashville with my mom, my (at the time) 4 year old nephew and my 8 year old neice. After dealing with a bunch of airline SNAFUs (every plane we got on broke down!) we're on our way to TN to visit my sister. Unfortunately, our tickets had us sitting one behind the other.
I was about 13 at the time so Mom let me sit by myself since I was just in the row in front of her. She had the two little ones sitting next to her hoping that who ever was given the seats next to her would understand. The husband and wife that were seated next to her insisted on making the 4 year old sit by himself. :eek:
I saw what was going on and I flagged over one of the stewards to help us resolve this. Some seats were shuffled (it was an empty flight anyway!) but there was lots of mutterings from the couple about how "Certain people think they own the place" and "those people are ruining America". I can only assume "those people" meant the fact that my mom speaks very little English and she and I were speaking in Spanish.
:mad: That's terrible.
The airlines sell seats to people all the time now though without any regard as to whether or not kids and parents are separated. Every single flight I've taken to WDW in the past several years, they have to shuffle because someone's kid is going to be 15 rows away from them. You'd think that they'd have something in the computer system to catch a toddler seated alone! I know I'd better not try Southwest because the free for all seating would not be fun for me. We have a hard enough time when they're assigned.
Only once has a swap worked well for us- on our last trip, we had a lady swap her aisle seat rows closer to the front in an exit row with the very giant sized man who was seated with my husband and I. As a result, she got to sit across the aisle from her husband and two kids and dude was happy to get more leg room.
One of the lady's kids had special needs and ended up sitting in our row on her mom's lap most of the flight- and it was a gift. This tiny four year old could only see and hear on one side- and she had had a trac recently removed that she'd had since infancy so she used signing to communicate.
She fell completely and instantly in love with my husband LOL It was absolutely priceless.
The rest of the story is worth telling (and I will in another thread) meant to blog it but I'll post it- I just had to say that for once in our lives, the seat swap was a huge blessing! Even as other memories from our trip fade, we will never forget that little girl.
Bru
p.s. WELCOME!
NessaMcTastic
06-03-2008, 12:33 PM
Thanks for the welcome Bru.
Fortunately, my other flying experiences have been more positive as have most of my WDW. (my last trip was a disaster! My ex's family were all a bunch of SGs and he was the biggest one. Hopefully my next trip will be a lot better.)
I do remember being on a short (less than 30 minute) connecting flight where there was a young (about a year? Maybe less?) child on board that was whimpering. Not crying. Not yelling. Whimpering a bit. The SG next to me kept rolling his eyes and getting all huffy about the baby. I was so fed up I said, "With all your flustering, you do realize that you're making more noise than the child?!" I heard a few sniggers from the back row so I suppose I wasn't the only one who thought so! :rolleyes:
Mayonnaise
06-03-2008, 12:49 PM
"Certain people think they own the place" and "those people are ruining America". I can only assume "those people" meant the fact that my mom speaks very little English and she and I were speaking in Spanish.
Meh. That's such bull. America is made of immigrants, aside from the Native Americans. Those very same people are descended of people who immigrated here as well. People are so touchy about illegal immigrants, that they get disgruntled over LEGAL ones too. Just because someone immigrated from a Spanish speaking country, doesn't automatically make them an illegal. And it doesn't make them a welfare case either. My father came to this country when he was 8, and is now a Senior Mechanical Engineer at Lockheed Martin. His mother worked as a governess and then as a seamstress supporting him on her own dime, not the government's.
It's that sort of attitude that made my father tell me as a kid, never to tell anyone I was half Colombian. (I take after my mom's side of the family in looks. Everyone assumes I'm Anglo... and I am, half.)
8^S
NessaMcTastic
06-03-2008, 01:07 PM
It's that sort of attitude that made my father tell me as a kid, never to tell anyone I was half Colombian. (I take after my mom's side of the family in looks. Everyone assumes I'm Anglo... and I am, half.)
8^S
*Sigh* I'm "white looking" (pale skin but dark hair/eyes) so people are suprised when I tell them that I'm first generation American and my parents are Cuban. Most folks assume that Hispanic = brown skin, dark hair and eyes. I then remind them that Desi Arnaz (Ricky Ricardo) has similar features as me. Plus my grandparents were from Spain/the Canary Islands so that's why I look so "European".
At times my parents have urged me to say that I'm "just" American. Especially when it came down to applying for colleges; they felt that I wouldn't be accepted for being "too ethnic." (My parents came here in their late teens in the 1950s when "I Love Lucy" was still a bit of a scandal!)
Mayonnaise
06-03-2008, 01:31 PM
At times my parents have urged me to say that I'm "just" American. Especially when it came down to applying for colleges; they felt that I wouldn't be accepted for being "too ethnic." (My parents came here in their late teens in the 1950s when "I Love Lucy" was still a bit of a scandal!)
Conversely, my mother kept pressuring me to put down "Hispanic" in the hopes of garnering some affective action slot in the school. I felt silly doing that, as I'm more the Linda Carter flavor of half Hispanic... my eyes are steel blue.
8^)
BRWombat
06-03-2008, 01:41 PM
Okay I had to come out of the woodwork for this one....Glad you did, Nessa!
:welcome: to :sgt: from :wallaby: and :wombat:!!! :D: :D: :D:
NessaMcTastic
06-03-2008, 03:46 PM
Aww! I feel so loved and speyschul! :p:
I'm glad I came out of the woodwork too! Those termites really bite. Badumbump!
mechurchlady
06-05-2008, 05:10 AM
welcome to SGT Nessa. I am Iberian American mix and my grandmother was chihuahuense and her husband was Azorean. I am weird and do not fit any mold but also have heard a boat load oa manure lol.
disneyaddict
09-15-2008, 04:37 PM
Across the aisle and one row back, somone had the window and there was a dude on the aisle spreading his stuff on the middle in a transparent attempt to scare people away.
Isn't that against federal regulations, anyway? I mean, they do the whole spiel before every flight on every airline...seatbelt on, tray-table fastened, seats in the upright and locked position, carry-on luggage either in the overhead compartment or all the way under the seat in front of you...
They don't let you have stuff out, unless it's a jacket, book, magazine, food, drink, etc.
mechurchlady
09-17-2008, 04:34 AM
Isn't that against federal regulations, anyway? I mean, they do the whole spiel before every flight on every airline...seatbelt on, tray-table fastened, seats in the upright and locked position, carry-on luggage either in the overhead compartment or all the way under the seat in front of you...
They don't let you have stuff out, unless it's a jacket, book, magazine, food, drink, etc.
You may have stuff out until the plane is landing, unsafe such as turbulence, taking off, parking, or taxiing. At some point passengers are told to put seats backs up, trays locked, all luggage and stuff must be in the bin or the seat in front of you, etc. Until that time a person can sprawl out and put stuff on seats. It is rude to declare a seat taken and I will sit on stuff.
Syndrome
09-17-2008, 02:22 PM
Isn't that against federal regulations, anyway? I mean, they do the whole spiel before every flight on every airline...seatbelt on, tray-table fastened, seats in the upright and locked position, carry-on luggage either in the overhead compartment or all the way under the seat in front of you...
They don't let you have stuff out, unless it's a jacket, book, magazine, food, drink, etc.
You can have it out until the door is closed or close to it...people do this on SW during the boarding process to scare off others because it's open seating, then stow everything quickly when the flight is ready to actually leave.
Another good game is "Unite the Couple." Many couples will sit window and aisle, hoping no one takes the middle. But if there are no other good seats, a person will take the middle on the assumption that one member of the couple will switch with them so they can be next to each other.
Mr. Syndrome likes the window to look out and I like the aisle for easy restroom access. Thus when people play "Unite the Couple" with us, they lose and end up staying in the middle. We are courteous and don't lean over them to talk or anything, but we won't move. It cracks me up that couples who live together 24/7 can't stand to be separated by one seat for the length of a flight. I'm secure enough in my marriage to risk it!
GRUMPY PIRATE
09-17-2008, 08:27 PM
You can have it out until the door is closed or close to it...people do this on SW during the boarding process to scare off others because it's open seating, then stow everything quickly when the flight is ready to actually leave.
Another good game is "Unite the Couple." Many couples will sit window and aisle, hoping no one takes the middle. But if there are no other good seats, a person will take the middle on the assumption that one member of the couple will switch with them so they can be next to each other.
Mr. Syndrome likes the window to look out and I like the aisle for easy restroom access. Thus when people play "Unite the Couple" with us, they lose and end up staying in the middle. We are courteous and don't lean over them to talk or anything, but we won't move. It cracks me up that couples who live together 24/7 can't stand to be separated by one seat for the length of a flight. I'm secure enough in my marriage to risk it!
That, or about twenty minutes after take off, whisper in his/her ear, I love you..pass it on!!! hehehehhe
betcha they change as soon as the seatbelt sign is off!!
Syndrome
09-18-2008, 09:35 AM
That, or about twenty minutes after take off, whisper in his/her ear, I love you..pass it on!!! hehehehhe
betcha they change as soon as the seatbelt sign is off!!
Or better yet, "Let's join the Mile High Club. Meet me in the lav. Pass it on!"
ktulu
09-18-2008, 10:48 AM
Or better yet, "Let's join the Mile High Club. Meet me in the lav. Pass it on!"
Be careful, that person might join you!
Whazzup
09-18-2008, 02:00 PM
So, how many Mile High members do we have on SGT? Hmmmmmm??? Anybody want to confess? Anyone......anyone.....Bueller?? :D:
hobie16
09-18-2008, 02:19 PM
So, how many Mile High members do we have on SGT? Hmmmmmm??? Anybody want to confess? Anyone......anyone.....Bueller?? :D:
Does an ultralite count?
ktulu
09-18-2008, 02:41 PM
So, how many Mile High members do we have on SGT? Hmmmmmm??? Anybody want to confess? Anyone......anyone.....Bueller?? :D:
Does doing it in Denver count?
Does it count if you were alone?
DisneyMom
09-18-2008, 02:56 PM
Not on a plane, not on a train.
Not on a house, not with a mouse....
I do not eat them here or there, I do not eat them anywhere!
I do not eat green eggs and ham,
I do not eat them, Sam I am!
(You guys were talking about eating green eggs and ham, right?):confused:
Whazzup
09-18-2008, 06:30 PM
Does doing it in Denver count?
Does it count if you were alone?
Does an ultralite count?
Uhhhh, any more kinky additions to this subject?? :eek:
No, ktulu, alone doesn't count.
Hobie, isn't that more than a little dangerous?? Or were you alone, too?
hobie16
09-18-2008, 06:49 PM
Hobie, isn't that more than a little dangerous?? Or were you alone, too?
I didn't say it happened in one, I just wanted to know if it qualified.
Princess Susi
09-19-2008, 07:59 AM
Sure, hobie.
Does doing it in Denver count?
Does it count if you were alone?
Doing it in Denver definitely does count! It may not be as fun in Denver with that high altitude, hard to catch your breath...hehehe, but it counts!
But not alone. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww....
hobie16
09-19-2008, 08:34 AM
Doing it in Denver definitely does count! It may not be as fun in Denver with that high altitude, hard to catch your breath...hehehe, but it counts!
But not alone. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww....
Denver wouldn't count unless your bed is equipped with Magic Fingers. :D:
dannydp
09-19-2008, 10:34 AM
I had a "Reverse" experience where I was the one in assigned seating and someone tried to convince me to switch with them. It was a single lady on a business trip, convincing me that she had really wanted the window seat but they had already been booked up so I should be nice and give her my seat. Meanwhile this is JetBlue, assigned seating, and I'm in one of the seats you pay extra for so you have more leg room (it's only I think $10/$15 more, and worth it on long flights). I told her I personally wanted to sit at the window myself, after a while or her staring at me like I was screwed up I told her she could ask others, she asked a couple other people and actually came back to me and said "They said no. So can I have your seat?" I told her no, put my headphones on and ignored her presence. She actually had the nerve to ask a steward to ask someone to move there seats, he said no.
DisneyMom
09-19-2008, 12:11 PM
Sure, hobie.
Doing it in Denver definitely does count! It may not be as fun in Denver with that high altitude, hard to catch your breath...hehehe, but it counts!
But not alone. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww....
Hahahaha!
Now if I ever talk to you on the phone and you're out of breath, I'll know why!:p:
And I'll know you're feeling better!
GRUMPY PIRATE
09-20-2008, 04:45 PM
Does an ultralite count?
Wouldn't that be.....COLD??
hobie16
09-20-2008, 05:34 PM
Wouldn't that be.....COLD??
One word. Friction.
Syndrome
09-20-2008, 05:39 PM
Meanwhile this is JetBlue, assigned seating, and I'm in one of the seats you pay extra for so you have more leg room (it's only I think $10/$15 more, and worth it on long flights).
I would have told her, "Sure, since I paid extra for it, you can have it for $50." You would have been a little more cramped but would have made a profit!
Even on SW, where everyone is technically "equal," I wasn't too likely to change with someone when I made it a point to check in right on the dot of 24 hours to get my early A and got in line an hour early.. If they can't do that too, why should I let their problem be mine?
If I'm in the right mood, I might switch tho'. When we were flying Aer Lingus from Dublin to Barcelona, Mr. Syndrome and I were in our assigned seats and an FA came us to ask if we could switch to help them keep a family together. It was only a two hour flight, and a baby behind us was already tuning up his lungs, so I said "Sure"...I figured wheverever we were going couldn't be worse and it was only two hours anyway. Turns out she put us in the exit row with tons of legroom....SCORE!!
disneyaddict
09-21-2008, 10:52 AM
I had a "Reverse" experience where I was the one in assigned seating and someone tried to convince me to switch with them. It was a single lady on a business trip, convincing me that she had really wanted the window seat but they had already been booked up so I should be nice and give her my seat. Meanwhile this is JetBlue, assigned seating, and I'm in one of the seats you pay extra for so you have more leg room (it's only I think $10/$15 more, and worth it on long flights). I told her I personally wanted to sit at the window myself, after a while or her staring at me like I was screwed up I told her she could ask others, she asked a couple other people and actually came back to me and said "They said no. So can I have your seat?" I told her no, put my headphones on and ignored her presence. She actually had the nerve to ask a steward to ask someone to move there seats, he said no.
That's when you allow her to sit at the window, but sit right beside her, with the armrest up, as close as you can get, and lean over her to look out the window. If she complains, tell her you get nauseous if you can't see out the window. :twisted:
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