Scary Regulars

[EeyoresButterfly]

I got the idea for this thread from the Hands Off the Princesses Thread. There are several weird/scary regulars that many people seem to know. Since these people seemed to confine themselves to certain areas, some peole know them and some people don't. I thought that this would be a good place to share who they are and what makes them so...bizarre. Here are the ones I know of:

1.) Linda (Skywalker?). Last time I was down there she had officially broken up with Luke due to some sort of spat. Apparently she had a thing for Ron Stoppable and is now obsessed with High School Musical.

2.) Towel Baby: The story I heard was that the people with the towel baby are a couple with slight mental retardation who lost their own baby during its infancy. Since then they have carried a towel baby around the park and insist that people treat the towel as a real baby.

3.) Ear Plug Boy: This is a grown man who literally skips around the park. I used to see him all the time when I worked attractions. He wears brightly colored earplugs. He has an alternate entrance GAC although he has no visible disability (I realize that doesn't always mean anything, but as he is there all the time and gets impatient if has to wait even one second...) He may or may not be the same man who stalked the princesses and one of the face villains to the point he had names, phone numbers, and addresses. He was banned for awhile, but while banned was given a job in custodial. He was fired after they realized who he was, and has still been spotted in the parks from time to time.

Those are the ones that I know. Does anybody know of others? Any details on these three that are inaccurate or missing? What kinds of fun stories do you have from your contact with the crazies.

[CMGUY89]

We have Trench Coat pin man
This guy walks around with a trench coat with literally hundreds of pins. You could hear him clanging around as soon as he got into the park. This thing must have literally weighed 50 pounds. He would just ride the rides by himself....

That's about it we don't really have anyone creepy, or regular for that matter. I think MK gets more of those than we do...

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

We have Trench Coat pin man
This guy walks around with a trench coat with literally hundreds of pins. You could hear him clanging around as soon as he got into the park. This thing must have literally weighed 50 pounds. He would just ride the rides by himself....

That's about it we don't really have anyone creepy, or regular for that matter. I think MK gets more of those than we do...

He might be in danger of being "OG"

(for those of you that watch waynes brothers movies)

[Sarah Magdalene]

Someone has to call the funny farm on these people and have them taken in.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

On here, that is dangerously close to a pot/kettle thing!

(IRON pot Hobie, not the other kind!)


(hehehehehe)

[hobie16]

(IRON pot Hobie, not the other kind!)
Did you ever see Nat E. Dredd, the Rasta Gourmet on Fridays cook the pigeon or the foot long? He used iron cooking implements and slathered the food in ganja.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Did you ever see Nat E. Dredd, the Rasta Gourmet on Fridays cook the pigeon or the foot long? He used iron cooking implements and slathered the food in ganja.

Never seen that, but its pretty smart...It wouldn't matter if you are a bad cook, the guests would still enjoy the meal!

[turkeyham]

Disneyland has those people too.

The Prarie People who hang out in Frontier land and stalk the local employees.

"Smiley"-He was an odd character. He hong out on Main Street and would visit Mr. Lincoln. He would always follow single moms with kids. I don't see him around anymore.
:eek:

[joanna71985]

Linda Skywalker is just plain creepy. Whatever happened to her Star Wars buddy? I haven't seen that lady in awhile.

[Sarah Magdalene]

Don't these people have caretakers what not to keep them under some reign? After hearing of Snow's situation and seeing her so disgusted and scared, I really don't care how "Innocent and harmless" some of the creepy regulars are. I think it's be good to have such people on file and when spotted in the parks some mental hospital should be on speed dial for them to be collected. Hang up, "Caution" posters and stuff on these people in break rooms and descriptions of their actions.

[joanna71985]

That's a good idea!

[CMGUY89]

As someone who has dealt with Persons With Learning Disabilities and Mental Illness his entire life I caution against starting a witch hunt. From what I've heard you describe these people are not dangerous. They are just eccentric and most likely have some sort of mental illness. Using derogatory terms like "funny farm" is offensive to me an demeaning to these people. Last I checked being weird and creepy was not a reason to "lock someone up". They are obviously not functioning at full-mental capacity. The thing that separates them from people with disorders like down's syndrome is that they are not cute, therefore they are deemed dangerous. My brother, who has long been diagnosed with a variety of disorders, was recently fired for a job for talking about barbecuing. They interpreted it as he was a pyro who wanted to burn down the building. So again I caution you against jumping to conclusions and trivializing these people and their conditions.

[Sarah Magdalene]

But where the line should be drawn when it comes to "Stalker" and simple fun? Don't things (following characters and CM's around) like that lead to something worse? I understand that some individuals are there for pure novelty, but when it makes the performers uncomfortable - something should be done. When a man leans into a woman who can't defend herself (save for an attendant), practically breathing on her - I'd demand that he be dragged off. Innocent and happy action to him, but scaring the crap out of a Princess. I'm not saying a "lock up" but certainly some therapy, being under consistent eye of caretakers, and help with their character obsession.

[felinefan]

The only "characters" I remember when I worked at Knott's were a couple of developmentally disabled adults. They would just go around and say hi to their favorite R.O.s, ride their favorite rides, and they probably had a better time than most other guests. They were never a problem.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

well, part of the problem is that you are mixing medical and legal terms.

Stalking is a legal term, and has nothing to do with mental impearment or physical problems. It has everything to do wtih violating a state law by taking actions.

The obsessive focus on a princesses, or prince, or a CM in general is a function of that persons mental focus, and Very hard to quantify without the aid of a mental health professional.

A good example, is the 20 year old with downs syndrome obsessed when he see's Captain Hook, or is it the thrill of his life that he gets to meet Captain hook, and he displays it with great exuberance, and so on.

The problem with the Princess meets, is that they are out there with the express purpose of meeting the public. Perhaps they should schedule a security "honor guard" to be nearby if the problems start to get out of hand!

[DisneyMom]

People certainly do cross the line....and there certainly are some that may be a threat, but that could be in any field you work in. What sort of training do CMs get to distinguish between disabled vs threatening? Do they just alert their supervisor who has some training in that area? or do they just go on their own experience?
Someday my son with autism might be judged by a CM....He isn't a stalker by any means, just very friendly and loves hugs...he looks just like a typical person but sometimes says odd things. He's 20 now, but how will everyone react if he is the same way in 20 years......
Of course I work hard to teach him to be socially appropriate, but his disability will always be there and I will not.:(

[Sarah Magdalene]

I think the scarier part of it is, not to mention shameful, is that if someone does pull an inappropriate action on someone, they may claim mental illness when they are really not. Who knows what is to believed then? Then that really sets off an unfair distrust on a set of individuals who really are challenged, but harmless.

When it comes to distinguishing people - I tend to just play it all equal to everyone. As a fur friend, I feel safer than that of a face friend. Hugs and kisses are widely accepted and are given and taken. Usually when I meet those with mental challenges, it's usually obvious and they are treated just like all other guests. They also have had chaperons with them who would step in if anything were to go wrong. Usually, they are happier to see you than most other guests - which is perfectly fine. But it seems a little harder for faces friends to fall into such a comfort level. Perhaps if any physical confrontation starts up - wrong "touching" or going ahead with an action after the character declines, such as princesses kissing grown men - then some action should be taken.

[glendalais]

The only "characters" I remember when I worked at Knott's were a couple of developmentally disabled adults. They would just go around and say hi to their favorite R.O.s, ride their favorite rides, and they probably had a better time than most other guests. They were never a problem.

We have those at the DLR too. There's one who always comes into my location every night. He doesn't act his age, true, but he always seems like he's having more fun than the some of the other guests.

[Theme Park Where]

I think for the most part people like Linda Skywalker et. al. are harmless. They've found a place where they at least feel like they fit in. Although we as cms recognize them as being "regulars" for them it's a new experience every time. They can escape from a world that doesn't "get" them, and come into our fantasy world where they feel at home. For most of our guests, they either come in and "play" at fantasy or come in and blast right through the fantasy on the way to the rides, then they go home. For these "regulars", the fantasy is so strong they feel at home there. For the time they're at the park, they're normal and everyone else is different.

That being said, face characters like the princesses do have to recognize the difference between a harmless developmentally challenged individual caught in the fantasy and a person with frightning intentions. It's their job. They don't have to take inappropriate behavior, but they also need to have a slightly smaller "personal space barrier" than most people. When someone wants a kiss and won't take no, my prince wouldn't like it as an answer, then yes, it's a problem and the princess needs to remove herself from the situation. If the guest continues to insist on multiple occassions, security needs to be involved. If the guest is caught in the fantasy and wants a hug, or a dance, or just a conversation with the princess, even on multiple occassions, well those are the folks for whom fantasy and reality are a blurred line, at least while they're at the parks, and they are pretty much harmless. We can't treat them like we're afraid they'll escalate into the other kind of person. We have to recognize that to them, the princesses or HSM cast or Captain Hook ARE real, and this is their one chance to know someone famous in person and actually have them know them back, and they enjoy that connection. They can sometimes be annoying when you're trying to deal with guests who don't come every day and who are trying to get in a conversation with a character or a photo but are constantly interupted by the regulars. But that being said, there is an art to dealing with this and it's part of the job description.

[SmallWorldGuy76]

Disneyland has those people too.

The Prarie People who hang out in Frontier land and stalk the local employees.

"Smiley"-He was an odd character. He hong out on Main Street and would visit Mr. Lincoln. He would always follow single moms with kids. I don't see him around anymore.
:eek:

Boy, oh boy, do I miss working at DL. There were other kooks I used to see when I worked at the DL Park like the Green Coat Lady, the aforementioned John "Smiley", this one oddball that follows the last float of parades, and there were others that I could recall. Anyhow, they's make great characters for a sitcom, lol!

[Princess Susi]

As someone who has dealt with Persons With Learning Disabilities and Mental Illness his entire life I caution against starting a witch hunt. From what I've heard you describe these people are not dangerous. They are just eccentric and most likely have some sort of mental illness. Using derogatory terms like "funny farm" is offensive to me an demeaning to these people. Last I checked being weird and creepy was not a reason to "lock someone up". They are obviously not functioning at full-mental capacity. The thing that separates them from people with disorders like down's syndrome is that they are not cute, therefore they are deemed dangerous. My brother, who has long been diagnosed with a variety of disorders, was recently fired for a job for talking about barbecuing. They interpreted it as he was a pyro who wanted to burn down the building. So again I caution you against jumping to conclusions and trivializing these people and their conditions.


Well said, young man. That being said, they do have to differentiate between the developmentally disabled, autistic and other metal disabilities and the truly scary stalkers. I think one can pretty much tell when someone is developmentally disabled and a creepy stalker guy or gal. It can be pretty obvious sometimes. Maybe not so much other times.

But I don't like the terms funny farm and other words other folks use like retard or . It IS demeaning and has no place in our society. We need to learn to be accepting of those who have such disabilities. They are members of our society and many of the developmentally disabled lead fairly normal lives with a job abnd relationships often. I see folks like these on the city bus often and they are going to work at Wal-Mart or another job and often times have their boyfriend or girlfriend with them. I always get into interesting discussions with them because they see the world differently than I and I can learn from them.

I don't think you need to worry so much about your son, DisneyMom. He is a great kid. Very friendly and he seems to know what he is doing. Like the Jazmine thing, when he said to me, he thought she was hot, he blushed and laughed like a *cool guy* would and it looked to me like he KNEW she was a Disney character. I felt like he did not have any question about it. He is such a great kid and so friendly. He does love hugs. He and Ralph hit it off so well and they are buddies for sure. He likes to give Ralph hugs, but that is cool cause Ralph likes to hug too.

In some ways Ralph is very childlike. His brain was changed by the accident and he has a tendency to act childlike sometimes as well. Disneymom will tell you, I think she has noticed the traits there. He can be very petulant and have a temper tantrum (sorta). He is incredibly stubborn and has to do things in order and must do only one thing at a time or he gets confused. Very childlike sometimes...interesting to be his mate when I feel like his mother sometimes in these instances and have a little reality check on how to handle him as his wife, not mother. It gets strangely interesting to me. I have to try to figure out how I must react to a situation where a mom would usually be handling it, but he is with me, not his mom (thank God!) There are all kinds of people inthe world and it makes for an interstingplace and we must be careful to not judge so quickly and harshly those that are different from us or just different or eccentric in general. The true creepy stalkers and bad people stick out more than the others. I was stalked once as well when I worked in radio as the morning drive DJ, and he was pretty much harmless, but he was creepy. In the end we took care of the situation and he never bothered me again, but while I was being stalked I feared the worst. I will tell that story on this thread sometime. Right now my fingys are tired from typing and my back and knees are hurting real bad so I need to lie down.
Susi

P.S. You are a sensitive and bright young man CM Guy and you have more maturity than most young people these days.:)

[CMGUY89]

P.S. You are a sensitive and bright young man CM Guy and you have more maturity than most young people these days.:)

Thanks Susi...:o:You're making me blush.

[EeyoresButterfly]

I'm going into special ed, so please don't think I'm trying to judge people with mental illnesses. I'm referring specifically to people whose behavior is beyond the pail. With Ear Plug Boy the problem was when he became a bona fide stalker. I've heard of both Linda and Towel Baby becoming verbally abusive with CMs (Linda to the point security had to be called.) There are certainly people with mental challenges who come to the park on a regular basis and may exhibit behaviors that are not what would be considered normal, these are not the people I am referring to. I am referring to the ones that for one reason or another have caused concern among some of the cast members. As a former friend of the characters, I agree that there is a difference between harmless and creepy. Somebody who tracks down specific friends of the characters or attempts to touch characters inappropriately is not harmless in my book.

[DisneyMom]

Thanks for the vote of confidence for my son,Susi, and as for Ralph, he is really cool and funny, and very nice! We think he's great!:)
Close to the situation,though, we always wonder how it will be when we're not there....:(

[CMGUY89]

I understand what you mean. It is perfectly fine to be an educated CM and keep yourself out of a threatening situation. But to just lump people into a group as "creepy" and to want to put a signs up to watch out for them or thinking that they all need caretakers to watch them 24/7 is unnecessary. If there is a situation that becomes unsafe you call for a manager and security. I was just suggesting that some people look a little deeper than these people's actions. The towel baby people sound like they were severely traumatized by their baby's death. In that case I would say just go with it as best you can, especially if questioning it will escalate the situation.

[EeyoresButterfly]

In the case of a guest like Towel Baby, I would have no problem with informing CMs in areas they frequent of the kind of behavior they should expect. From what I understand of the couple, they get very agitated and even abusive if the CM does not refer to the towel as an actual baby. By alerting the CMs ahead of time, the CMs will know how best to act around the couple to keep from upsetting them or causing a situation. The same could be said for Linda. Since we have had to call security on her before for abusive behavior, I see nothing wrong with letting CMs know to keep a bit of an eye on her in case there is a problem. That is the difference between being proactive and reactive, and preventing a situation vs. causing one.

[hobie16]

One thing to remember about mentally challenged kids and adults is there is usually no gray areas for them. They are either on or off. That's why they are overly affectionate.

My stepson was born with a number of problems including, "...a shunted hydrocephalus since birth. The early dilation of cerebral ventricles with ensuing high pressures has resulted in a lifelong learning disability..."

We have him in a condo in Lahaina so he can learn to live on his own with minimal help. He walks Front Street (the main drag) a lot and has many friends. Some have voiced concerns about him being a stalker to my wife. She tells them when he considers you a friend he will hang around a lot. You can't be subtle with him so if you need him to leave, tell him, and he will move on. He will not take it badly.

So, with the kids and adults that have issues, a polite, but firm, "I have to go." should work fine. The real stalkers should be hit with security or, if the situation requires, a firm RIN.

[EeyoresButterfly]

RIN? I know in at least one case Ear Plug Boy was indeed banned for a year for his stalking behavior (which as I mentioned included tracking down personal addresses and phone numbers :eek:)

[hobie16]

RIN?
Rap In Nuts.

[joanna71985]

I'm going into special ed, so please don't think I'm trying to judge people with mental illnesses. I'm referring specifically to people whose behavior is beyond the pail. With Ear Plug Boy the problem was when he became a bona fide stalker. I've heard of both Linda and Towel Baby becoming verbally abusive with CMs (Linda to the point security had to be called.) There are certainly people with mental challenges who come to the park on a regular basis and may exhibit behaviors that are not what would be considered normal, these are not the people I am referring to. I am referring to the ones that for one reason or another have caused concern among some of the cast members. As a former friend of the characters, I agree that there is a difference between harmless and creepy. Somebody who tracks down specific friends of the characters or attempts to touch characters inappropriately is not harmless in my book.

In the case of a guest like Towel Baby, I would have no problem with informing CMs in areas they frequent of the kind of behavior they should expect. From what I understand of the couple, they get very agitated and even abusive if the CM does not refer to the towel as an actual baby. By alerting the CMs ahead of time, the CMs will know how best to act around the couple to keep from upsetting them or causing a situation. The same could be said for Linda. Since we have had to call security on her before for abusive behavior, I see nothing wrong with letting CMs know to keep a bit of an eye on her in case there is a problem. That is the difference between being proactive and reactive, and preventing a situation vs. causing one.

Well said.:)

[minimoose]

at DLR there was the Penguin lady, name given because she was fat and waddled like a penguin. But whenever she came to the park she HAD to be the first one on peter pan at park opening otherwise she would throw the biggest bitch fit ever seen by a human. She would also constantly argue with cast members and stubborn as a mule she would throw more fits if she was proven wrong. Banned from the park and hadn't seen her in my last months working at DL.

The bubble twins. They're not creepy or weird but they're actually pretty cool, 2 elderly ladies who hand out little bottles of bubbles. Mostly seen around northern part of disneyland.

[DisneyMom]

The bubble twins. They're not creepy or weird but they're actually pretty cool, 2 elderly ladies who hand out little bottles of bubbles. Mostly seen around northern part of disneyland.

Ummmm, I think some people around here *might* know them:rolleyes:
Elderly, naaaaaah.
Definitely Cool.:)

[CMGUY89]

at DLR there was the Penguin lady, name given because she was fat and waddled like a penguin. But whenever she came to the park she HAD to be the first one on peter pan at park opening otherwise she would throw the biggest bitch fit ever seen by a human. She would also constantly argue with cast members and stubborn as a mule she would throw more fits if she was proven wrong. Banned from the park and hadn't seen her in my last months working at DL.

The bubble twins. They're not creepy or weird but they're actually pretty cool, 2 elderly ladies who hand out little bottles of bubbles. Mostly seen around northern part of disneyland.

LOL, you should read the boards, they are active members here...

[Randy B]

The bubble twins. They're not creepy or weird but they're actually pretty cool, 2 elderly ladies who hand out little bottles of bubbles. Mostly seen around northern part of disneyland.

You probably hadn't noticed yet, but the Bubble Ladies are regulars here and are well known to all of us. (even those of us who haven't had the pleasure of meeting them in person.) Check around in the fairly recent threads and you will find their report of their recent trip to WDW.

Randy

[vixen101485]

LOL...Yeah what they all said about the bubble ladies. Good gosh I hope they arent elderly, if they are, I dont have much time left before I become that too. LOL

[hobie16]

The bubble twins. They're not creepy or weird but they're actually pretty cool, 2 elderly ladies who hand out little bottles of bubbles. Mostly seen around northern part of disneyland.
Sounds like stalkers or mad bombers to me. Has security run a full psych profile on them and attempted to get DNA samples? Should the bag check staff limit them to three ounces of "bubble" liquid per visit?

[Princess Susi]

The bubble twins. They're not creepy or weird but they're actually pretty cool, 2 elderly ladies who hand out little bottles of bubbles. Mostly seen around northern part of disneyland.

The Bubble Ladies.:D: Check the thread about their recent trip to WDW made possible by many very generous posters here. They are the epitome of what Disneyland is about! We heart the Bubble Ladies!

Elderly????? That would make me elderly as well, since I am their age and I am by no means old YET!

Bubble Ladies, are you out there? Come in, Bubble Ladies...SGT to Bubble ladies...Your magical presnece is needed!:)
Princess Susi

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

The Bubble Ladies.:D: Check the thread about their recent trip to WDW made possible by many very generous posters here. They are the epitome of what Disneyland is about! We heart the Bubble Ladies!

Elderly????? That would make me elderly as well, since I am their age and I am by no means old YET!

Bubble Ladies, are you out there? Come in, Bubble Ladies...SGT to Bubble ladies...Your magical presnece is needed!:)
Princess Susi

Elderly? Judging by the pictures I have seen, that are..What, 38 or 39? Of course you can't be more than 30 or 31?

(hehehehehehe)

(I may be a Grumpy Pirate.... but I ain't stoopid!!)

[Sarah Magdalene]

Well said.:)


Yes. Exactly! I think that what we see as Friends POV's are a little different from those of other CM's is because we seen how certain behaviors from such people can affect those we know. Having a heads up on various guests that have frightened or agitated CM's in the past is a good way to help them deal with them if they were ever to be encountered again. CM's will know how to act and what to expect. I'm certain that if Snow met that man again she would be able to react accordingly and remain in character. If he likes showing affection she can greet him and present her hand for kiss, that way both are satisfied - he giving a kiss and she being touched comfortably. I don't see why having a consistent caretaker is bad thing at all as well. I had a group of severely challenged people come visit Minnie in her gazebo one day and it was obvious they were very excited to be seeing her. But they were all divided into small groups with a chaperone looking out over each. It worked out wonderfully. The person watching over was able to tell them, "Okay, that's enough - Minnie needs to see the next person." or "Don't hug her too tight, she's only a little mouse and you are bigger than she is." They all acted accordingly, followed directions, were very courteous! Certainly much nicer and more behaved than what you described from both Linda and the Towel baby couple.

Personally, I'm kinda having a hard time wrapping my mind around Towel Baby couple and that Linda woman as they seem so comical in their behaviors described- that they act that way for attention and laughs, a lot like Borat.

[CMGUY89]

I can assure you that they are not doing it to be funny. Their thinking is not the same as ours. While the idea of them having a helper is good in theory, it just wouldn't work. Aides cost money, which is something a lot these people don't have much of. It costs more than an AP to WDW. But don't think that only entertainment has to deal with these people. Attractions gets the brunt of people who have difficulty with instructions presented to them. Or they don't understand that they can't just get out in the middle of an attraction. The best thing we can do is to treat them with all of our kindness and respect, and also view their actions with a grain of salt. They are not doing these things to be malicious, they are doing it because they don't know any better.

[EeyoresButterfly]

Let's not get into a line of work pissing contest! Regardless of your role you will always have to deal with people, both children and adults who get into trouble due to a lack of understanding. I have seen grown adults stick their hands into food and lick spoons on buffets. I'm sure merchandise has their own issues as well. I saw a video on AFV of a little girl using a potty that was on display in a home improvement store. What made me mad was that the adults in the situation laughed about it and then ran away as soon as she was done! They should have known better.

When I worked attractions I very rarely had problems with people with developmental disabilities. If they had enough cognitive ability to be by themselves they typically followed our directions (sometimes better than "normal" adults!), if they did not they had somebody with them as there were other issues there as well.

I have heard some horror stories though. While going through my MK training we were told about a man with developmental disabilities whose family got sick of him and just left him to his own devices. As the CMs were closing, they saw him sitting alone on Main Street. He didn't know how to get back to his resort (which was thankfully on property). A CM had to drive him to his resort in a company van as transportation had already stopped for the night.

Another time a trainer told me a similar story about a man who had been left to his own devices and rode Splash by himself. As the story goes, he stepped out of the boat at the top of the lift and fell to his death. I know there was a similar death on splash when a man stepped out while the ride was in motion and died. He told the others on the ride that he felt ill. I do not know if this is the man and if he truly had a disability, or if she is simply repeating an urban legend, but I'm sure it could happen.

I have worked in a home for people with developmental disabilities. Several of my residents (some of whom are still only teenagers) have been all but abandoned by their families, and it breaks my heart. I just got done being a buddy at special olympics yesterday and I was sad to see one student who felt that it was okay to use "short bus" type of humor.

I'm sure every area has to deal with people who are abusive. I will admit that in attractions it never moved beyond verbal abuse whereas when I was in entertainment I did have to deal with physical abuse such as punching or inappropriate touching. However, I would rather have to deal with neither. :) I guess if I had to deal with an odd or abusive guest that I know or one I don't, I would rather deal with the regular guests because at least I know what to expect and how to defuse the situation.

[SpaceMagic]

Ah, does anyone know the elderly guy with the lights all over his wheel chair? Or the couple that hang all their disney keychains on their ECVS? They're lovely to chat with on a boring day at Tip Board. Friendly and have a lot of wonderful stories.

[Theme Park Where]

The guy with the lights on his ECV comes to Fantasmic all the time too. He is nice to talk to, although he has his timing down perfectly so he's often arriving at the busiest part of show load and we don't always get a chance to chat.

We actually had to shut down Rock n' Roller coaster because a developmentally challenged young lady from Brazil decided to sit on the hood of the limo. She rode once with no problem (and apparently no chaprone). She wanted to ride again, so before anyone could stop her she ran back along the reride hallway and over the gate onto the load platform. We'd already loaded the limo and the gates were closed, so she jumped over the rail to get there. She ran up along the limo, and since the front seat was full jumped on the hood of the car, clinging to the harness of the poor guy in the front row. She wouldn't let go and kept insisting she was riding in the front row. We ended up calling OPD to come in and get her off the ride. Her group leader was there, but couldn't have been bothered to help.

Shortly after that incident we had another e-stop when a developmentally challenged girl decided her family was in danger riding the ride. She was supposed to be waiting for them at the exit (they'd sent her down the reride hallway by herself to wait for them) and instead jumped the gate and ran down the launch tunnel after them. Luckily she didn't get hurt, but it could have been a disaster, and all because her family would rather ride the ride than look after her.

[BRWombat]

Let's not get into a line of work pissing contest! Regardless of your role you will always have to deal with people, both children and adults who get into trouble due to a lack of understanding.Right, especially since I can top you all. I deal with criminal defense attorneys. :p:

(My wife, who substitute teaches both in public schools and a couple of church preschools, will sometimes ask me if I want to switch jobs: "Do you want to deal with some four-year-olds today?" My response? "I think I already do!")

[CMGUY89]

Does your wife sub for PISD? (no wisecracks please)
If so I might have had her!

[EeyoresButterfly]

I can empathize with your wife! Thanks to an accommodating class schedule I sub up to three days a week for my local school district. Many of those days I sub for paras so I am with a lot of children with special need such as autism or Down Syndrome. Since most children with special needs do not handle change well, it can make for an interesting day...

[Christine43]

I have a question for CMs, would you want to know in advance that my son is autistic? He can be very animated at times but very flat at others. He is still a child but I can't help but worry about how people will react to him when he is an adult and I can't be there to help him every minute. So, if he were older and fully grown, would you want me to let you know he is autistic right off? It is easier to recognize Downs Syndrome than Autism. I'm honestly just curious.

[CMGUY89]

In my opinion that is no ones business and you do not have to share that you really want to. I suggest getting a Guest Assistance Card from guest relations so you don't have to explain at every attraction. You just show it and they will give you the assistance you need, no questions asked. You can explain quietly if you chose but at no point do we ever need to hear what disability your child has. That is your business and you are not obligated to tell that. If there is anything we can do to make your trip easier like warning of loud noises or startling effects that could frighten your child. You are entitled to your privacy and no cast member should ever ask you what your son's disability is, they should ask what kind of assistance you need.

[EeyoresButterfly]

On your other thread I mentioned having a T-Shirt or Pin. I have seen children use them, and it definitely makes a difference in how other guests treat them. It shouldn't make a difference in how a CM treats him, but sadly, for some I'm sure it does. This is completely personal preference for you. If he has a tendency to hit or kick, it's nice to let any characters know just so that we can be on the lookout. I always appreciate it as you don't know how every kid will react, and getting hit when you're not expecting it is no fun :( . We try to be understanding of little kids or kids with special needs as opposed to a jerk teenager who thinks it's fun, but it's helpful to have a heads up. Most families of children with autism or other special needs will tell us in advance so that we can avoid those problems.

[bpgstudios]

Ok I have put this off long enough. I'm finally going to write about our scary regular in F-land. There is a lady and her husband who come frequently (AP holders). The woman has a small yorkie service dog, and is in a double-wide wheelchair.

Experience 1: Small world, she wants to go on the wheelchair boat, which we are not allowed to load doublewides on since it wont fit right, so when asked if she could transfer to a standard wheelchair or directly into the boat, she demands our ops duty manager by full name. When the manager is called, this woman calls Guest Relations from speed dial on her phone, complaining that they didn't really call because he wasn't there yet. GR tells her that he has been called and is on his way. Ops manager tells her the same thing we did, and walks off.

Experience 2: Philharmagic. She is the first one in line in the wheelchair holding area of philhar lobby. when the doors open, she screams at the CM there that she is going to the middle wheelchair space. Mind you, there are 5 more parties behind her, all with wheelchairs as well, so we must be fair to everyone and have her go to the end of the back row. Manager called, same old story again.

Experience 3: Peter Pan. Since service animals are not permitted on this attraction, her husband waits by unload for her. Because it is not TOO busy and to prevent her from bitching MORE, the unload CM permits her to ride 5 times in a row. After her 5th time, the CM says that is enough and she does need to get off. She insists she gets another 5 rides taking her husbands turn. CM says no, GR is called on the cellphone to complain about CM.

Experience 4: Wishes ropes. Lady and husband approach snow white ropes 1 minute prior to show start, meaning the launchers are armed and ready to fire so no guests can enter from the back. Insists that she must view the fireworks from inside the castle because anywhere else upsets the dog. Claims that they have always been allowed to go in, etc. They argue and go on and on. Wishes starts, they insist they are still going through. The dog is fine btw. Manager called, backs up CM obviously.

There was a while where she wasn;t around, but just recently (around easter time) came back and caused more troubles. It makes me wonder why a record of complaints and manager calls isn't kept on guests that seem to be looking for trouble and just putting a ban on them.

And for the record, only one two of the above experiences I have personally witnessed. The others are stories relayed by fellow CMs.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Someone like that, I would think that if you document enough problems, it would seem that having her as a guest is simply too much effort for one guest. After a number of them, if she is an AP, a nice letter saying that to avoid further exasperation on her part because of safety issues that she wishes to ignore, she will no longer be welcome!

[joanna71985]

Ok I have put this off long enough. I'm finally going to write about our scary regular in F-land. There is a lady and her husband who come frequently (AP holders). The woman has a small yorkie service dog, and is in a double-wide wheelchair....


Wow! She sounds like a piece of work!:rolleyes:

[EeyoresButterfly]

Thankfully this person was not around when I worked Fland. I don't know if I could be that patient! If I screw up, you have a right to yell at me (I wish you wouldn't, but...). What you do not have the right to do is yell at me when I am trying to keep your fat butt safe! I used to work Wishes and even the Fland CMs who stand just inside the ropes are not allowed to go any further in or we will get tackled by fireworks crew. That is the fall out zone, and I have seen a firework fall that had not exploded. When that happens they are still live and can explode at any time. (I was working castle back, wondering why people weren't dropping their ropes yet. All of a sudden fireworks crew came running with no less than 5 fire extinguishers which they proceeded to unload on the munition.)

[goalman43]

We have Trench Coat pin man
This guy walks around with a trench coat with literally hundreds of pins. You could hear him clanging around as soon as he got into the park. This thing must have literally weighed 50 pounds. He would just ride the rides by himself....

That's about it we don't really have anyone creepy, or regular for that matter. I think MK gets more of those than we do...

Oh dude, I saw this guys at TOT when we were there 2 weeks ago. I had to point him out to my wife, and laugh hysterically. He was apparently harassing any guest who would listen to him. Scary.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Oh dude, I saw this guys at TOT when we were there 2 weeks ago. I had to point him out to my wife, and laugh hysterically. He was apparently harassing any guest who would listen to him. Scary.

Wierd!! What was he saying?? Trying to pin trade? I have heard that some of those wierd people are just a little "off" , Like the Skywalker lady, or the towel baby lady.

[goalman43]

Wierd!! What was he saying?? Trying to pin trade? I have heard that some of those wierd people are just a little "off" , Like the Skywalker lady, or the towel baby lady.

He was very much in the personal space of a family going over all of the specific countries of Epcot. I didnt stick around too long, but he definitely caught my attention and I had to do a double take.

I agree that he's a little "off". I dont think he has an actual mental disorder. Those people I have no problem with. They are developmentally challenged in one way or another. However, The Pin guy, Skywalker chick, and others are not mentally disabled. They are socially disabled, and that is what makes them strange or scary. They can help how they behave, and they do know the difference between fantasy and reality. Dont get me wrong WDW puts me into my own world as well, but its not an obsession for me.

[mechurchlady]

do you remember the DLR fat lady with a plushie in a three wheeled stroller?

[hhsrat]

do you remember the DLR fat lady with a plushie in a three wheeled stroller?

given that this is a mostly WDW thread, I'd guess that for most of us, the answer is no.

[Sioban]

Ok I have put this off long enough. I'm finally going to write about our scary regular in F-land. There is a lady and her husband who come frequently (AP holders). The woman has a small yorkie service dog, and is in a double-wide wheelchair.

I know exactly who you are talking about!!!! The last time I saw her she kept insisting that we were making her wait too long for Pan. Mind you, she had only been waiting for under 2 minutes since we already had 2 wheelchair parties on. The regular line was over and hour wait and I let her know that we were doing a courtesy to her by not having her wait that long and that I didn't have to do it (I said this in a nice and non snippy way, btw). Back then she didn't have GR on speed dial, maybe her plan didn't have enough minutes or something, or I may be the cause that she has them on there now. Who knows.

[EeyoresButterfly]

Did you tell her that by law we cannot have more than two guests using wheelchairs on the ride at a time, and that this is for her safety?

[Sarah Magdalene]

do you remember the DLR fat lady with a plushie in a three wheeled stroller?

Sounds something like the towel couple. But her baby is the plushie. Both sorts still seem off the wall. But I think I'd be more understanding and sympathetic to a women with a plushie than a couple with a towel baby.

However this person could be perfectly sane.
I heard of a women who carried a teddy bear in a baby sling when she travels. She does the whole "traveling gnome" bit with it, posing and dressing it in various landmarks. Even has a passport for it. I don't remember if she posts the pics online or sends them to an elementary classroom. But it's a cute idea.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Sounds something like the towel couple. But her baby is the plushie. Both sorts still seem off the wall. But I think I'd be more understanding and sympathetic to a women with a plushie than a couple with a towel baby.

However this person could be perfectly sane.
I heard of a women who carried a teddy bear in a baby sling when she travels. She does the whole "traveling gnome" bit with it, posing and dressing it in various landmarks. Even has a passport for it. I don't remember if she posts the pics online or sends them to an elementary classroom. But it's a cute idea.

DW used to make and sew teddy bears for fun, using metal joints for arms etc.

She made a small one, then made a jacket and hat for him, and we took him to Alaska with us, getting him in a lot of our pictures!

But we didn't TALK to him, well, not without RUM!!!

hehehehehe

[EeyoresButterfly]

I worked with a man who would bring his teddy to work. When he did a stint in DL Tokyo, some of his fellow CMs took a picture with a banner that said, "Come Home Soon Teddy!"

I have a stuffed rabbit that I have had since I was five, it's very sentimental. My mom wanted me to get pictures of her in the park for fun, but I flat out refused because I was terrified something would happen to her. However, I can totally see doing a flat Stanley type of thing with a stuffed animal, that would be a really cool teaching tool. I would not get a stroller for it though.

[mechurchlady]

the stroller was to hold pin bags and lunch lol. There is a rule about luggage so the pin traders would rent, bring or steal from other guests a stroller, lol. The fat lady was first then others started carrying plushies for trading with kids.

Wow I thought this was a bicoastal site, whodathunk, lol.

[Sioban]

Did you tell her that by law we cannot have more than two guests using wheelchairs on the ride at a time, and that this is for her safety?

I did tell her that when I was being sincerely nice about it...before I pointed out in a nicely not so nice (if that makes sense) way about making her wait and hour and a half for the ride. I'm honestly surprised that she didn't try to eat my head off when I said that. GSMs backed me up once she decided that she was "fed up" dealing with me. The stupid thing is that if she had just waited her turn without deciding to open her trap, she would have been on and off in minutes. Also, since she insisted on waiting for the GSM before riding, people that were behind her went and left with no problem (and a few well-appreciated comments on my behalf)

[Syndrome]

I've never brought a toy into the parks, but one day I donned Stitch ears while Mr. Syndrome donned a monorail hat and we had our pics. taken at all the attractions where they take 'em while you're riding. We had been given a photo collage frame as a gift, so we filled it with all our pics. from that day. It was fun in a very juvenile sort of way, but going to WDW is the perfect time for old farts to be juvenile!

[hobie16]

...but going to WDW is the perfect time for old farts to be juvenile!
I truly believe the parks should a 35 and over only day every couple of weeks.

[Goofyernmost]

Did you tell her that by law we cannot have more than two guests using wheelchairs on the ride at a time, and that this is for her safety?

That would be a logical response if you were dealing with a logical person. That does not seem to be the case here. You could explain until you were blue in the face and it wouldn't matter to someone that just likes to be abrasive. Sadly, there are many like her out there.

[Whazzup]

I worked with a man who would bring his teddy to work. When he did a stint in DL Tokyo, some of his fellow CMs took a picture with a banner that said, "Come Home Soon Teddy!"

I have a stuffed rabbit that I have had since I was five, it's very sentimental. My mom wanted me to get pictures of her in the park for fun, but I flat out refused because I was terrified something would happen to her. However, I can totally see doing a flat Stanley type of thing with a stuffed animal, that would be a really cool teaching tool. I would not get a stroller for it though.

We took Widdle Wallaby and Mini Meghyn to the Navy base yesterday and they posed for pictures in various locations inside the National Museum of Naval Aviation. We got a lot of strange looks, especially from the cami-wearing Marines who were holding a rehearsal for a retirement ceremony. :D:

[hobie16]

We got a lot of strange looks, especially from the cami-wearing Marines who were holding a rehearsal for a retirement ceremony. :D:
You should have asked the Marines to take them through the confidence course.

[dazyhill]

When I went to "Beaglefest" (the official convention for members of the Peanuts Collectors Club) back in 2000,there was a collector with a well-loved Snoopy doll who ran up to me and had Snoopy "kiss" me. This was my first time at Beaglefest and I wanted to flee the room and go home!
She treated her Snoopy doll as a real person, dressing him up differently every day (overalls for the country BBQ,a tux for the formal dinner)and saying that Snoopy liked this,approved of this etc. Nice lady,just a bit strange. She was the exception,not the rule with Snoopy collectors.

[mgilmer]

Totally off topic but my ex mother in law had two cabbage patch kids that she brought to the table every night with the family and even set places for them and served them food.:eek: Funny thing was she thought Disney was stupid.

[hobie16]

That's in the same vein as people who think the moon walks were fake but totally believe in the wrestling matches on TV. :D:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

That's in the same vein as people who think the moon walks were fake but totally believe in the wrestling matches on TV. :D:

????

Are you implying that the WWF is FAKE????

say it isn't soooo....


hehehe

[Syndrome]

Pul-leese! Next thing you'll be telling me that Idol and Survivor are fixed too!

[Whazzup]

You should have asked the Marines to take them through the confidence course.

I could take them through the dunker and ejection seat training that they give all the pilots who rotate through NAS Pensacola. The command I retired from runs all that survival equipment. Hmmmmm...... think I'll go back to the Navy base next week and see what kind of fun I can have with the flats. We did get to have their picture taken with Fat Albert and some Blue Angels jets. I'll be posting those pics and some journal entries in the next few days.

[hhsrat]

????

Are you implying that the WWF is FAKE????

say it isn't soooo....


I don't know ... I'm pretty convinced these guys (http://www.worldwildlife.org/) are real. ;)

[hobie16]

I don't know ... I'm pretty convinced these guys (http://www.worldwildlife.org/) are real. ;)
My sense of humor may be twisted but I got a great laugh when a bunch of tree huggers (World Wildlife Fund) put the smackdown on the World Wrestling Federation for stealing their trademark.

[Doctor McKey]

As someone who has dealt with Persons With Learning Disabilities and Mental Illness his entire life I caution against starting a witch hunt. From what I've heard you describe these people are not dangerous. They are just eccentric and most likely have some sort of mental illness. Using derogatory terms like "funny farm" is offensive to me an demeaning to these people. Last I checked being weird and creepy was not a reason to "lock someone up".

Not to insult you but your right it is not a reason to lock them up.. its a reason to hire them.. =-P

I must agree tho... i have lived with my own deamons that haunt me like these people, such as a anti social disorder ( that i on a daily baises ignor and just live life with no regrets.. ) depression, and many more. I like to refer to the special guests as special cases, but i must draw the line when they start exhibit social disorders that border on O/C due to the fact thats how most cerial killers start out on their obsession. I have seen such traits in guests and cast alike. And yes... I due have a back ground in Emergency Medicine... :eek:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Pul-leese! Next thing you'll be telling me that Idol and Survivor are fixed too!

Umm, now that you bring it up...





Oh look, a baby wolf!!!

[ktulu]

Hey Hobie, can you get that sig pic any larger :p:

[hobie16]

Hey Hobie, can you get that sig pic any larger :p:
Maybe. I'll work on it. :eek:

[StephM]

social disorders that border on O/C due to the fact thats how most cerial killers start out on their obsession. I have seen such traits in guests and cast alike. And yes... I due have a back ground in Emergency Medicine... :eek:

Just a comment about the O/C. Obsession may well be a trademark of a serial killer, but Obsessive Compulsive disorder is not.

People with OCD are too busy being afraid of what might germs might kill them this week, hoarding newspapers, and washing their hands to worry about killing anyone, for Pete's sake!!!

For people with OCD, the obsessions tend to be fear of something that becomes so acute and so terrifying, that they cannot function. This is where the compulsions come in. The compulsions compensate for the fear. For example, a person with OCD develops a fear of flying. They then perform counting rituals before flying....counting everything in their suitcase, touching every seat they pass on the plane before sitting down. In the OCD mind, this "protects" them from the dangers they fear.

I speak from personal experience. I have OCD and never has my obsessiveness focused on a person, unless you count the ax murderer I am sure will come in and kill us all if I don't check the door locks 5 times before bed. :D:

Oh, and a side note, as an official crazy person, I have no problem being referred to as a whackjob, nutjob, crazy, "off", certifiable, etc. In fact, that's how I describe myself. Also, feel free to refer me to the funny farm. Just please send disinfectant wipes. ;)

[hobie16]

The benefit of "...being referred to as a whackjob, nutjob, crazy, "off", certifiable, etc." is, nobody bothers you. :D:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

The benefit of "...being referred to as a whackjob, nutjob, crazy, "off", certifiable, etc." is, nobody bothers you. :D:

Plus if you do say it enough with witnesses, when you do put the smackdown on an SG at WDW, you could get off with a warning!!

[Randy B]

Plus if you do say it enough with witnesses, when you do put the smackdown on an SG at WDW, you could get off with a warning!!

I see the charge now. Assault with a deadly antibacterial wipe. :D:

Randy

[StephM]

I see the charge now. Assault with a deadly antibacterial wipe. :D:

Randy

BWAHAHAHAHAAHA! I told my hubby last night that I am going to start wiping down those people who seem to have the need to rub up against me in line. :D:

[BRWombat]

Reminds me of the line from Newsradio, when Bill is confined to a mental hospital:

"Around here we don't use the word 'crazy.' I much prefer the word... 'crazy.'"

[MagliteL13]

When I was driving boats in circles and telling bad jokes, we had a guy we called "Creepy Halloween Dude." He started comin around during Mickey's Not So Scary and would come around during the days. He'd hop on skippers boats (he like female skippers more, and would wait for a boat with one). His intention was to heckle the skippers to the point they would cry. He'd heckle any skipper. After a few days of this, security was called and his annual pass revoked. He came back next year. He currently, still has no annual pass.

[bigbrian-nc.com]

As a guy who likes to do things a lot of other guest don't spend much time on, I try to be aware of how I must seem to cast members. in particualar I like to catch a lot of the live entertainment groups, and when I do there will often try to catch two to three sets of the same perfomer on a day, so instead of following the pattern most guests follow which is either to say "oh isn't that neat" as they pass a musicain by, or to stop and listen to the end of one song before moving along, I will arrive before thier set starts and be waiting when they come out, I KNOW that has to seem odd, but I do that because I like to record full sets, and I think most of them get that pretty quickly. I'm guessing I must seem "odd but harmless" to some of them. i still worry a little sometimes though how I must seem, some of them I hit it right off with and I'm pretty sure are comfortable with me, but occasinally I'm unsure how I'm percieved, still since I can't get down there all that often, there are fairly long times between the times they see me, which probably helps.

[costumesaremylife]

That lady and the yorkie! She was just there over the fourth of july when I was there. WE both stayed at pop and I saw her everywhere. At one point a 12-13 year old girl was pushing her wheel chair at the bus stop, but I never saw that girl again and I saw the Yorkie lady numerous times. She seemed to be everywhere.

I can't stand her. I don't know what kind of poo she's trying to pull over everyone. I feel really bad for the dog

My dad has a really hard time walking. and when he does walk he takes very short steps so it takes a long time to get around. In disney he uses a scooter to get around (we also have one at home) I would love it if a bus was full and had two scooters if he could just hop on, like she did. I understand many people have problems that we can't see, but if you are in a wheelchair without a brace, a cane or any sign it makes me mad. (and Really I mean just about any sign, I'm very observant and caring of people in wheel chairs. Just not her) I hope she never has to deal with the fact that she cannot walk on a moving walkway, like my dad. He can't ride Peter Pan anymore.

[ThunderCat]

I know there was a similar death on splash when a man stepped out while the ride was in motion and died. He told the others on the ride that he felt ill. I do not know if this is the man and if he truly had a disability, or if she is simply repeating an urban legend, but I'm sure it could happen.
As I understand it, the gentleman in question exited his boat in the ride envelope, slipped and fell into the flume, and was crushed by an oncoming boat.

Friends who work at SM tell me that intrusions there are far more common than one would think.

[EeyoresButterfly]

It doesn't surprise me. It is a long ride that is slow moving through several parts and has no restraints.

[ThunderCat]

To get back on topic...

Another scary regular is George, the "Disney Tattoo Guy" (http://www.disneytattooguy.com/). Now, if someone wants to get a lot of Disney tattoos, that's their business... but I've had several guests complain to me that this guy will go so far as to tell other guests who have Disney tattoos that he's the only person who's "allowed" to have a Disney tattoo, and that they aren't allowed to display their tattoos openly in the park.

[Figment76]

That lady and the yorkie!

I can't stand her. I don't know what kind of poo she's trying to pull over everyone. I feel really bad for the dog

Y'know, I thought I saw a woman with a small dog in her shoulder bag going on to Soarin' once. It happened so fast, and I lost sight of her in the crowd, so I didn't get a chance to point her out to a CM. I mentioned it on Board X, but got shot down with people telling me it must have been a stuffed animal. However, I know it was definitely a real dog in that bag! Maybe it was this lady. Can you imagine if she put the bag in the underseat netting/cargo (sorry, I forget what it's called) area?!

ETA: Couldn't have been the same person as she wasn't in a wheelchair and doesn't otherwise fit the description. Never mind. But still scary, if she did bring a dog on that ride.

[Kwahati]

But still scary, if she did bring a dog on that ride.

Eh...it depends on the dog. My puppy (term used loosely and lovingly) would sit on my lap through anything. She might be terrified and/or miserable (and in the case of Soarin', she's too big so I wouldn't be able to see the movie well!), but she'd stay put at least... :p: [Hmm...technically she's a service animal too, so I could get her in the gate, but I think someone might notice when trying to get into a ride... Anyone know where to find a four foot deep handbag?!?] :twisted:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

To get back on topic...

Another scary regular is George, the "Disney Tattoo Guy" (http://www.disneytattooguy.com/). Now, if someone wants to get a lot of Disney tattoos, that's their business... but I've had several guests complain to me that this guy will go so far as to tell other guests who have Disney tattoos that he's the only person who's "allowed" to have a Disney tattoo, and that they aren't allowed to display their tattoos openly in the park.

Wow, does that guy self promote or what?

I don't see how he can say that only he is allowed, when you read the disclaimer on his web site, it makes it clear he in not affiliated in any way.

Which raised the question, does DLR or WDW ask people to "cover up" some types of tattoos. (assuming that they are ones that shoud be viewed by children)

[NessaMcTastic]

Wow, does that guy self promote or what?

I don't see how he can say that only he is allowed, when you read the disclaimer on his web site, it makes it clear he in not affiliated in any way.

Which raised the question, does DLR or WDW ask people to "cover up" some types of tattoos. (assuming that they are ones that shoud be viewed by children)

Does anyone else find it creepy that he has some cast members tattooed on him?

I don't understand a passion that's taken that far!

[Flame]

To get back on topic...

Another scary regular is George, the "Disney Tattoo Guy" (http://www.disneytattooguy.com/). Now, if someone wants to get a lot of Disney tattoos, that's their business... but I've had several guests complain to me that this guy will go so far as to tell other guests who have Disney tattoos that he's the only person who's "allowed" to have a Disney tattoo, and that they aren't allowed to display their tattoos openly in the park.

O_O

yeah, i totally agree with you there. getting them is one thing, telling them they can't get one is just moronic. i plan on getting a "punk Simba" tattoo in a couple years...i should proudly show that off just to aggravate him. :twisted:

[Euterpe]

That website made me sick to my stomach. What a waste of money.

[Sarah Magdalene]

Oh, and a side note, as an official crazy person, I have no problem being referred to as a whackjob, nutjob, crazy, "off", certifiable, etc. In fact, that's how I describe myself. Also, feel free to refer me to the funny farm. Just please send disinfectant wipes. ;)

You SO rock!

[joanna71985]

To get back on topic...

Another scary regular is George, the "Disney Tattoo Guy" (http://www.disneytattooguy.com/). Now, if someone wants to get a lot of Disney tattoos, that's their business... but I've had several guests complain to me that this guy will go so far as to tell other guests who have Disney tattoos that he's the only person who's "allowed" to have a Disney tattoo, and that they aren't allowed to display their tattoos openly in the park.

I've seen him in the park. All those tattoos are crazy!

Does anyone else find it creepy that he has some cast members tattooed on him?

I don't understand a passion that's taken that far!

According to him, he has every character/performer tattooed on him.

O_O

yeah, i totally agree with you there. getting them is one thing, telling them they can't get one is just moronic. i plan on getting a "punk Simba" tattoo in a couple years...i should proudly show that off just to aggravate him. :twisted:

Ha! That would be awsome!

[hobie16]

According to him, he has every character/performer tattooed on him.
Cobra Bubbles?

[joanna71985]

Cobra Bubbles?

Ok, I should have said meetable characters.

[Cheshire Figment]

A couple of years ago the World Chapter of NFFC had George as a speaker. He lives in the Philadelphia area.

By profession he is a close-up magician, which is why he has nothing on his face, neck, hands or wrists; it would detract from his performances.

He has gone through at least five wives, he warns them at the start that his first love is Disney.

He has over 1300 tattoos, including all characters and many attractions/buildings.

His collection is worth (over two years ago) more than $750,000.

He goes to WDW at least once a month, DLR once every 3 or 4 months, and DLP, TDL and HKDL at least twice a year each.

And I think that his web site is www.disneytattooguy.com

[turkeyham]

I have seen this guy at Disneyland last year. The tatoos are nice.:p:

[hobie16]

Ok, I should have said meetable characters.
Cobra Bubbles isn't meetable?!?! Who was that guy I saw outside of the Tiki Room?

[joanna71985]

Cobra Bubbles isn't meetable?!?! Who was that guy I saw outside of the Tiki Room?

I don't know about DL. But he does not come out at WDW.

[NessaMcTastic]

A couple of years ago the World Chapter of NFFC had George as a speaker. He lives in the Philadelphia area.

By profession he is a close-up magician, which is why he has nothing on his face, neck, hands or wrists; it would detract from his performances.

He has gone through at least five wives, he warns them at the start that his first love is Disney.

He has over 1300 tattoos, including all characters and many attractions/buildings.

His collection is worth (over two years ago) more than $750,000.

He goes to WDW at least once a month, DLR once every 3 or 4 months, and DLP, TDL and HKDL at least twice a year each.

And I think that his web site is www.disneytattooguy.com

Right! I saw him featured in a documentary about tattoos. Those five weddings have all been done with Disney.

I wonder how much he's spent on his collection...or where he gets the money to spend $750k.

[EeyoresButterfly]

Joanna, I think Hobie was pulling your leg ;).

[hobie16]

Joanna, I think Hobie was pulling your leg ;).
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!! :D:

[joanna71985]

Joanna, I think Hobie was pulling your leg ;).

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!! :D:

I knew that

[CMGUY89]

Ok I have put this off long enough. I'm finally going to write about our scary regular in F-land. There is a lady and her husband who come frequently (AP holders). The woman has a small yorkie service dog, and is in a double-wide wheelchair.

Experience 1: Small world, she wants to go on the wheelchair boat, which we are not allowed to load doublewides on since it wont fit right, so when asked if she could transfer to a standard wheelchair or directly into the boat, she demands our ops duty manager by full name. When the manager is called, this woman calls Guest Relations from speed dial on her phone, complaining that they didn't really call because he wasn't there yet. GR tells her that he has been called and is on his way. Ops manager tells her the same thing we did, and walks off.

Experience 2: Philharmagic. She is the first one in line in the wheelchair holding area of philhar lobby. when the doors open, she screams at the CM there that she is going to the middle wheelchair space. Mind you, there are 5 more parties behind her, all with wheelchairs as well, so we must be fair to everyone and have her go to the end of the back row. Manager called, same old story again.

Experience 3: Peter Pan. Since service animals are not permitted on this attraction, her husband waits by unload for her. Because it is not TOO busy and to prevent her from bitching MORE, the unload CM permits her to ride 5 times in a row. After her 5th time, the CM says that is enough and she does need to get off. She insists she gets another 5 rides taking her husbands turn. CM says no, GR is called on the cellphone to complain about CM.

Experience 4: Wishes ropes. Lady and husband approach snow white ropes 1 minute prior to show start, meaning the launchers are armed and ready to fire so no guests can enter from the back. Insists that she must view the fireworks from inside the castle because anywhere else upsets the dog. Claims that they have always been allowed to go in, etc. They argue and go on and on. Wishes starts, they insist they are still going through. The dog is fine btw. Manager called, backs up CM obviously.

There was a while where she wasn;t around, but just recently (around easter time) came back and caused more troubles. It makes me wonder why a record of complaints and manager calls isn't kept on guests that seem to be looking for trouble and just putting a ban on them.

And for the record, only one two of the above experiences I have personally witnessed. The others are stories relayed by fellow CMs.
She was at Epcot today and was pushing the dog in a stroller! She would not shut up!!! She bitched about The Land being closed and demanded we re-open it. Luckily I was training and was able to leave. But it was pretty stupid.

[LittleDollClaudia]

Wait, wait, wait.

How does this nonsense continue? Isn't there any way to put this selfish idiot on probation or something?

I'm sorry, but having a AP and a disability does not make you a god, okay?

Yes, I think that certain allowances sould be made, but this behavior is ridiculous.

And a yorkie service animal?!?

Please tell me you're pulling my leg. I mean, really. Yorkies only yap annoyingly.
(sorry to yorkie fans out there)

What can this animal do for her? Someone explain this to me.

Oh, and that whole thing with the tattoo guy, it says on his website, 90% of his body is tattooed. Ugh, I don't want to think about what the non-inked 10% could possibly be.

EWWWW.

I have 1 tattoo on my ankle, but that guy's a bit much. Bleah.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

You would think that at some point, the cost to WDW of dealing with her, and her little dog too, would far outweigh the amount they have spent on their AP's.

By the stories, it almost seems like she is TRYING to set up WDW into some sort of situation that she can use to create a lawsuit.

[felinefan]

I once saw a guest on the Calico Railroad at Knott's, when I worked there, get off the train with a small pug as a service animal. The woman looked like she had anxiety issues. Seriously, service animals don't have to be able to carry or pick up items or pull wheelchairs; they can act as comforters, or with autistic kids they can be a point of contact for the "outside world".

Is this Yorkie wearing a special bandana or harness, etc, that states that it is a service animal? Real service animals will have something on them attesting to the fact that they are indeed service animals, and the I.D. will have the name of the organization that trained the animal. Not there, it's not a service animal. One of the organizations that trains service animals is the Delta Society; look them up.

I was reading a site by Dr. Gary Namie, who's a psychologist specializing in workplace bullying issues. What this woman is doing sounds like bullying. I think y'all should check out his sites: www.bullyinginstitute.org , and www.bullybusters.org . There are tabs showing the effect of bullying on employees and the workplace. I think you ought to bring this to management's attention, or your union rep. I think it's time all employees should fight back, including CMs. Because the longer this is allowed to continue, the worse it will get. I know there's alot of you you love your jobs, but the people --SGs--get you down. There's no reason to put up with it. It doesn't have to be your boss, supervisor, or a co-worker bullying you, it can be a customer or vendor; and in your business, the guests are your customers.

[Euterpe]

And a yorkie service animal?!?

Please tell me you're pulling my leg. I mean, really. Yorkies only yap annoyingly.
(sorry to yorkie fans out there)

What can this animal do for her? Someone explain this to me.

Little dogs can be used as service animals. They're used to comfort people with attachment disorders, people with panic attacks, and people with autism. They aren't just used to lead blind people around. There are lots of service animals out there that aren't even dogs.

I asked about this once when I saw a dog in a stroller. My manager has seen service snakes and service monkeys. It's very interesting.

[felinefan]

Even bunny rabbits are used. What kind of animal depends on alot of factors--like what it's supposed to do, what the person it is intended to assist is comfortable with, allergies, etc..

[EeyoresButterfly]

I once saw a guest on the Calico Railroad at Knott's, when I worked there, get off the train with a small pug as a service animal. The woman looked like she had anxiety issues. Seriously, service animals don't have to be able to carry or pick up items or pull wheelchairs; they can act as comforters, or with autistic kids they can be a point of contact for the "outside world".

Is this Yorkie wearing a special bandana or harness, etc, that states that it is a service animal? Real service animals will have something on them attesting to the fact that they are indeed service animals, and the I.D. will have the name of the organization that trained the animal. Not there, it's not a service animal. One of the organizations that trains service animals is the Delta Society; look them up.

I was reading a site by Dr. Gary Namie, who's a psychologist specializing in workplace bullying issues. What this woman is doing sounds like bullying. I think y'all should check out his sites: www.bullyinginstitute.org , and www.bullybusters.org . There are tabs showing the effect of bullying on employees and the workplace. I think you ought to bring this to management's attention, or your union rep. I think it's time all employees should fight back, including CMs. Because the longer this is allowed to continue, the worse it will get. I know there's alot of you you love your jobs, but the people --SGs--get you down. There's no reason to put up with it. It doesn't have to be your boss, supervisor, or a co-worker bullying you, it can be a customer or vendor; and in your business, the guests are your customers.

Little dogs can be used as service animals. They're used to comfort people with attachment disorders, people with panic attacks, and people with autism. They aren't just used to lead blind people around. There are lots of service animals out there that aren't even dogs.

I asked about this once when I saw a dog in a stroller. My manager has seen service snakes and service monkeys. It's very interesting.

I had to research this recently, and I discovered that the ADA considers service dogs and therapy dogs to be different. A service dog by definition perofrms specific tasks to remediate a disability (retrieving items, alerting to seizure, leading, alerting to sounds, etc.). A therapy or comfort dog is there to calm the person, this is not considered a specific task and therefore the dog is not considered a service animal. Therapy and comfort dogs must follow the same laws and regulations as any other pet.

Not every service dog will wear something to identify, but most will. The problem is, all a person has to do is state that a dog is service dog and the dog has to e allowed in. Businesses are not allowed to ask for any kind of identification or proof, nor are they legally allowed to ask what the disability is or the specific service the dog performs. I am glad this is the case because people with disabilities should not have to broadcast to the world what their diagnosis is, but unfortunately it leaves it open to some serious abuses. I'm assuming this is the case with the lady and the yorky.

[Eeyore Tattoo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by minimoose

The bubble twins. They're not creepy or weird but they're actually pretty cool, 2 elderly ladies who hand out little bottles of bubbles. Mostly seen around northern part of disneyland.

Ummmm, I think some people around here *might* know them:rolleyes:
Elderly, naaaaaah.
Definitely Cool.:)

They are my age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not Elderly at all!!!!!!!!!!
Deb

[Sarah Magdalene]

Wait, wait, wait.

How does this nonsense continue? Isn't there any way to put this selfish idiot on probation or something?

I'm sorry, but having a AP and a disability does not make you a god, okay?

Oh, and that whole thing with the tattoo guy, it says on his website, 90% of his body is tattooed. Ugh, I don't want to think about what the non-inked 10% could possibly be.



A. Solution - Push wheelchair lady and pup to top of the highest hill one can find and LET GO!!!!!!! WHeeeeeeeee.... *splat* (Then again, spare the pup - can't help it if his owner is some self absorbed bitch.) :twisted:

B. Disney Tattoo guy ... gives you interesting thoughts about where the Pinocchio one is located. :D:

[drcorey]

hmm, maybe I will only get comfort with a Anaconda.
and 15 people to carry it, and it could eat small children.

[hobie16]

Disney Tattoo guy ... gives you interesting thoughts about where the Pinocchio one is located. :D:
:dropmouth:dropmouth:dropmouth:dropmouthSarah!!!:dropmo uth:dropmouth:dropmouth:dropmouth

[joanna71985]

B. Disney Tattoo guy ... gives you interesting thoughts about where the Pinocchio one is located. :D:

Ah!! It BURNS!!!:bugeyes:



I asked about this once when I saw a dog in a stroller. My manager has seen service snakes and service monkeys. It's very interesting.

snakes?!?!

[Sarah Magdalene]

:dropmouth:dropmouth:dropmouth:dropmouthSarah!!!:dropmo uth:dropmouth:dropmouth:dropmouth

Tee hee hee ... I knew I'd get that reaction. :o: :p:

[Goofyernmost]

Yea, the snake one amuses me. In the bus business we have been told that, if a person says that their snake is a service animal, all we can do is ask what it is trained to do. The kicker is that even though we have to let the person and their snake on the bus, there is no way that I can force the driver to stay on there with it.

Many have such a fear of snakes that they would gladly give up their jobs rather than have one on their bus. All I can picture is a group of people with snakes sitting on an otherwise empty, idle bus. :twisted::twisted:

[drcorey]

Yea, the snake one amuses me. In the bus business we have been told that, if a person says that their snake is a service animal, all we can do is ask what it is trained to do. The kicker is that even though we have to let the person and their snake on the bus, there is no way that I can force the driver to stay on there with it.

Many have such a fear of snakes that they would gladly give up their jobs rather than have one on their bus. All I can picture is a group of people with snakes sitting on an otherwise empty, idle bus. :twisted::twisted:

maybe a seeing eye ferret?

[hobie16]

Tee hee hee ... I knew I'd get that reaction. :o: :p:
You and Disneymom are having too much fun. :eek:

[DisneyMom]

You and Disneymom are having too much fun. :eek:


Muwahahha!:twisted:

[Sarah Magdalene]

You and Disneymom are having too much fun. :eek:

Well, someone's gotta think that way...

LOL

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

A. Solution - Push wheelchair lady and pup to top of the highest hill one can find and LET GO!!!!!!! WHeeeeeeeee.... *splat* (Then again, spare the pup - can't help it if his owner is some self absorbed bitch.) :twisted:

B. Disney Tattoo guy ... gives you interesting thoughts about where the Pinocchio one is located. :D:

Or the Elephants on parade?

hehehehe

[BRWombat]

Or the Elephants on parade?

heheheheUm, isn't it Pink Elephants on Parade?

Ew, ew, ew, ew. Excuse me while I go scrub my brain with a wire brush.

[hobie16]

Excuse me while I go scrub my brain with a wire brush.
Don't forget to mental floss.

[CBeilby]

Um, isn't it Pink Elephants on Parade?

Ew, ew, ew, ew. Excuse me while I go scrub my brain with a wire brush.

*passes the brain bleach*

[Cranbiz]

Yea, the snake one amuses me. In the bus business we have been told that, if a person says that their snake is a service animal, all we can do is ask what it is trained to do. The kicker is that even though we have to let the person and their snake on the bus, there is no way that I can force the driver to stay on there with it.

Many have such a fear of snakes that they would gladly give up their jobs rather than have one on their bus. All I can picture is a group of people with snakes sitting on an otherwise empty, idle bus. :twisted::twisted:

Ok,

My first question to the guest would be "Is that a service animal?" upon hearing the affirmative, my next question is " Does it know how to drive a bus?"

The yorkie could be trained to alert upon sensing an oncoming seizure. Many small dogs provide this service for it's owner and no, they don't have to have ID showing them to be a service animal.

[TalkingHands]

While ADA says you may not ask the persons disability, you can ask what service does the dog provide for you.

[Goofyernmost]

Ok,

My first question to the guest would be "Is that a service animal?" upon hearing the affirmative, my next question is " Does it know how to drive a bus?"

The yorkie could be trained to alert upon sensing an oncoming seizure. Many small dogs provide this service for it's owner and no, they don't have to have ID showing them to be a service animal.

It is difficult to figure out what organ the ADA people think with. Let's say that a small dog can sense an oncoming seizure, what happens then? Does it do anything to prevent the seizure or just get in the way when someone tries to help. The idea behind ADA was a nice thought, but, the manner of implementation is about as stupid as anything can get.

I have found that the overly powerful department never takes into consideration the safety of the person or of other people around them. Their sole function is to be sure that access is given to everyone regardless of their well being. If a non-disabled person has allergies, even life threatening allergies, debilitating fears or other...who cares! Others rights are not considered at all. If a person gets on a bus with a non-standard mobility device that cannot be safely secured, hence causing safety issues for the disabled as well as others, who cares. Let them ride. Now if that person or others gets injured because of the stupidity of such regulations, who do you think gets sued. I'll give you a hint...it won't be ADA.

I think it is a matter of time before this all comes to a head.

I can understand that it might be embarrassing for a person to reveal their respective problem or why their animals are there, but, it doesn't seem unreasonable to have a central location that is empowered to issue special ID passes that identify a properly trained animal and its owner. Then when access is needed, nothing more than showing the ID is necessary, no questions, no doubt, no fraud. Simple? I thinks so, but, the government is to busy flexing its muscle to understand simple logical thinking.

Try collecting social security without a social security card. If you go by government rules all they should be able to ask is...are you 65? Where do you want your check sent?

[Canuikstan]

http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080717/NEWS01/807170365

This woman is suing the county health dept. (among others) for sending notices to restaurants and businesses telling them they don't have to let her bring her monkey into the store.

Severe anxiety disorder treated by a monkey with.. severe anxiety disorder (based on comments)

[Goofyernmost]

http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080717/NEWS01/807170365

This woman is suing the county health dept. (among others) for sending notices to restaurants and businesses telling them they don't have to let her bring her monkey into the store.

Severe anxiety disorder treated by a monkey with.. severe anxiety disorder (based on comments)

And in the words of Forrest Gump...stupid is as stupid does! Another product of political correctness, lack of backbone and common sense.

[EeyoresButterfly]

It is difficult to figure out what organ the ADA people think with. Let's say that a small dog can sense an oncoming seizure, what happens then? Does it do anything to prevent the seizure or just get in the way when someone tries to help. The idea behind ADA was a nice thought, but, the manner of implementation is about as stupid as anything can get.

I have found that the overly powerful department never takes into consideration the safety of the person or of other people around them. Their sole function is to be sure that access is given to everyone regardless of their well being. If a non-disabled person has allergies, even life threatening allergies, debilitating fears or other...who cares! Others rights are not considered at all. If a person gets on a bus with a non-standard mobility device that cannot be safely secured, hence causing safety issues for the disabled as well as others, who cares. Let them ride. Now if that person or others gets injured because of the stupidity of such regulations, who do you think gets sued. I'll give you a hint...it won't be ADA.

I think it is a matter of time before this all comes to a head.

I can understand that it might be embarrassing for a person to reveal their respective problem or why their animals are there, but, it doesn't seem unreasonable to have a central location that is empowered to issue special ID passes that identify a properly trained animal and its owner. Then when access is needed, nothing more than showing the ID is necessary, no questions, no doubt, no fraud. Simple? I thinks so, but, the government is to busy flexing its muscle to understand simple logical thinking.

Try collecting social security without a social security card. If you go by government rules all they should be able to ask is...are you 65? Where do you want your check sent?

A seizure dog alerts the person to an oncoming seizure so they get into a safe place. For instance, many people who suffer grand mal seizures have bit blocks that keep them from biting through their tongues. This will give them a chance to find somewhere quiet to lie down, put in the bit block, etc. so that they do not hurt themselves. Many times these dogs are also trained to find help, either by dialing 911 on a phone or some other method if the person has a problem coming out of it.

You just opened a big can of worms with your post. I'm glad that people do not have to show proof, nobody should say what is or isn't deserving of a service dog precisely because many people are embarassed. There is a book called Jodi Picoult called "My Sister's Keeper". The lawyer in the book has a SD but will never tell anybody what it is because he is embarassed about his condition. Asking peole with SDs to have ID is putting a lot of red tape. It should not be up to the government to decide what is deserving/undeserving. The comparison with a Social Security card is bad one. You get a SS card when you are born, everybody has them so you are not singling out a group. Unless you lose yours, you do not have to replace it, there is no red tape. How long would it take to issue one of these cards? What is the person with the SD supposed to do in the meantime? Not go out.

Unfortunately, the allergy/fear issue is there, but there is no good alternative. I have a friend who is visually impaired and uses a SD to get around, she relies on that dog. Should she be made to get off a train just because somebody there may have an allergy or be afraid? She relies on this dog for independence, especially in an unfamiliar area. Most people with allergies have mild allergies that can be avoided by simply moving to a different part of the establishment. As for people with fears, having a fear does not give you the right to kick somebody out. I might have a fear of somebody who is middle eastern on a plane (common these days), but that does not mean they shouldn't be allowed. Properly trained SDs are very quiet, and most people with feras of dogs do not have undue problems when they are in the same place as an SD because of the control the owner has over the SD.

No, the ADA is not perfect, but it is a stretch to say that allowing people with SDs full access that everybody else gets infringement upon the rights of others. At least 99% of the time, the SD will not endanger the health and safety of another person, unless we are talking severe allergies. People have severe allergies to fragrances but businesses don't kick out people for wearing perfume, why should an SD who performs a vital function be any different?

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I think that what some of the posters are saying, is to simply have a GENERIC "ID" for the service animal that identifies it as a service animal, nothing more. Then it would eliminate the "BS" people that are taking their pet along, and claiming it is a service dog.

The tag doesn't have to say WHAT it does, just that it is a service dog.

I think a LOT of people are getting suspecious of the number of "service dogs" that seem to be only pets.

[EeyoresButterfly]

I know the ID will not say what it is, but I still have a problem with that. I am sure there will be people with genuine SDs who will have trouble getting it, will have to jump through hoops, file appeals, etc. What are they supposed to do in the meantime? Not go anywhere? It's a shame that stupid people with entitled attitudes are ruining it for people with genuine need.

[Canuikstan]

I know the ID will not say what it is, but I still have a problem with that. I am sure there will be people with genuine SDs who will have trouble getting it, will have to jump through hoops, file appeals, etc. What are they supposed to do in the meantime? Not go anywhere? It's a shame that stupid people with entitled attitudes are ruining it for people with genuine need.

Why would people with genuine service animals have problems getting the service tags?

Service animals have to be TRAINED to get that designation. You can just go to Petsmart, pick up a fuzzy and say "this is my service animal".

The Training facility would have to be accredited, and would issue the service tags as part of the pairing. I don't think that would be too difficult.

[JugglingFreak]

. As for people with fears, having a fear does not give you the right to kick somebody out. I might have a fear of somebody who is middle eastern on a plane (common these days), but that does not mean they shouldn't be allowed.


Now, I have a problem with this statement. You are referring to "fear". I have an outright phobia, Ophidiophobia to be exact. Being in the presence of a snake triggers a "fight or flight" response from me than can be dangerous to myself and others.

I can not control it and have hurt people in the past (physically, requiring hospitalization, long story).

If I were a bus driver, I would leave the bus, as I would be a danger to all aboard and on the road. I would not be able to concentrate on driving and would probably be a far greater danger than a drunk driver.

Your definition of "fear" is like equating someone with Autism as "just being a little slow".

[Mayonnaise]

Question... are we including Emotional Support Animals as Service Animals? (Sounds like that's what Richard the monkey in that article is.) If we are, then there actually is no or training for some types of Service Animals.

Technically though, at least from what I've read, ESAs are not required by law to be admitted to all places that a task oriented service animal is. They are merely exempt from "No Pets" clauses on housing, and must be allowed on a plane with their owner with a doctors note, provided they to not obstruct the aisle. Unfortunatly unless Richard performs tasks, like alerting a family member to a panic attack when she can't breath well enough to call out, alerting EMS to her location if she's hiding from them because she panicked after calling them, or going in first when they get home to check for feared intruders and/or turn on all the lights Ms. Rose doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. I'm not saying it's right... I'm just saying that by the letter of the law task training is the demarcating line between a Mental Health Service Animal, which must be admitted, and an ESA, which can be denied entry.

That said, one does have to wonder what a snake can be trained to do for someone... reptiles are not really that trainable. I don't know that a snake could ever be more than an ESA.

8^S

[ktulu]

I need to get one of those service animals shirts for Reagan, I think she would love Pirates of the Caribbean.

[drcorey]

Why would people with genuine service animals have problems getting the service tags?

Service animals have to be TRAINED to get that designation. You can just go to Petsmart, pick up a fuzzy and say "this is my service animal".

The Training facility would have to be accredited, and would issue the service tags as part of the pairing. I don't think that would be too difficult.

Pet Smart has some good deals on Seeing Eye Rats.

[mechurchlady]

Actually I think some people need to read the laws. A business owner or their agent can ask what makes an animal a service animal but cannot demand training papers. They can however ask that the animal not participate such as entering a restaurant if they feel the animal is a hazard to other guests. A yipping poodle would be forced to wait out side a restaurant however its owner could still be in the restaurant and be served.

A lot of myths about service animals and the laws. check disboards as they had the link to the federal info.

[Princess Susi]

To get back on topic...

Another scary regular is George, the "Disney Tattoo Guy" (http://www.disneytattooguy.com/). Now, if someone wants to get a lot of Disney tattoos, that's their business... but I've had several guests complain to me that this guy will go so far as to tell other guests who have Disney tattoos that he's the only person who's "allowed" to have a Disney tattoo, and that they aren't allowed to display their tattoos openly in the park.


Sheesh! Check out the links to the pictures of his house. That guy's house is too much, even for me with my thousands of Disney collectibles. Most of mine are still packed away til we decide where to move and then I will do some Disney rooms to display my collectibles, but I will not do thew whole house as a creepy Disney shrine! I would not do Mickey Mouse sinks, toilets and tubs and put murals and pictures and cut-outs all over the place. That is just way too much Disney for me. Even Disneyland and WDW are not that much sensory overloaded in one small place!

Disney Tattoo guy ... gives you interesting thoughts about where the Pinocchio one is located. :D:

He said on his website where Pinocchio was located as well as Sorcerer Mickey with his wand, It IS you know where! He said they are just a few of some of the tatoos that ONLY his wives have seen. Ugh! Not my type of Disney fan. I like my non-tatooed Disneylovin' hubby just fine.

Too much even for me....And I can be weird about Disney! This guy has me beat!;)

The Princess

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Sheesh! Check out the links to the pictures of his house. That guy's house is too much, even for me with my thousands of Disney collectibles. Most of mine are still packed away til we decide where to move and then I will do some Disney rooms to display my collectibles, but I will not do thew whole house as a creepy Disney shrine! I would not do Mickey Mouse sinks, toilets and tubs and put murals and pictures and cut-outs all over the place. That is just way too much Disney for me. Even Disneyland and WDW are not that much sensory overloaded in one small place!



He said on his website where Pinocchio was located as well as Sorcerer Mickey with his wand, It IS you know where! He said they are just a few of some of the tatoos that ONLY his wives have seen. Ugh! Not my type of Disney fan. I like my non-tatooed Disneylovin' hubby just fine.

Too much even for me....And I can be weird about Disney! This guy has me beat!;)

The Princess

Well, you do bring up a good point, WHY does he need that much decoration at his house?

DW and I have stuff, but its very subtle, Disney bottle opener, "Mickey head" basket, and so on.

I was considering re-modling one of the bathrooms in a Mickey Mouse type of decortion, but nothing over the top!

Hey your highness, how ya feeling?

Want some RUM??

hehehehe

[Ms. Matterhorn]

I looked at the pictures of Tattoo Guy's house and all I can say is "Obsess much?" Walt himself didn't have that much stuff. I love Disney too, but this guy's house makes me want to vomit from Disney overload.

http://www.disneytattooguy.com/housepics.htm

[Canuikstan]

On the topic of Disney Tattoos.. I have 8 (non Disney) tattoos, my SO is not inked at all.

She has been waiting all her life to go to Disney, and she is finally getting to go (10 days away!).

She is really excited about the trip, and actually wanted to get a Mickey tattoo to commemorate the trip.. she quickly changed her ind when i gave her "the eye" :)

I guess for this guy it's his "thing" but i just couldn't imagine my lovely lady with a mouse etched into her in another 36 years... even one as cool as Mickey!

[hobie16]

Sorcerer Mickey with his wand, It IS you know where!
Eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

[BRWombat]

...Sorcerer Mickey with his wand, It IS you know where! ...

Eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!I don't what's worse, the thought of him having that tattoo -- or the thought of someone actually, um, applying that tattoo.

Time to go break out the mental floss again. :barf:

[joanna71985]

i don't what's worse, the thought of him having that tattoo -- or the thought of someone actually, um, applying that tattoo.

Time to go break out the mental floss again. :barf:

ewwwwwww!!

[LittleDollClaudia]

The thing about this guy that cracks me up is that it took him being married 5 times before and then he found his dream woman (wife 6) that enjoys Disney like he does.

I admit, I have quite a few collectibles in my house. But they are different things, not one conglomeration of all stuff with the Disney stamp.

What kind of job does this dude have to be able to wear those tats and spend all that cash?

Oh, I also read you can e-mail him to get a tour of his house. Anyone else just a little creeped out by that besides me? How does wifey #6 feel about random freakos strolling through the house?

Hmm, I guess if she has issues, he'll just get a mail order bride that doesn't speak enough English to object. (7 is a lucky number, so I'm told)

:shudder:

[Goofyernmost]

A seizure dog alerts the person to an oncoming seizure so they get into a safe place. For instance, many people who suffer grand mal seizures have bit blocks that keep them from biting through their tongues. This will give them a chance to find somewhere quiet to lie down, put in the bit block, etc. so that they do not hurt themselves. Many times these dogs are also trained to find help, either by dialing 911 on a phone or some other method if the person has a problem coming out of it.

You just opened a big can of worms with your post. I'm glad that people do not have to show proof, nobody should say what is or isn't deserving of a service dog precisely because many people are embarassed. There is a book called Jodi Picoult called "My Sister's Keeper". The lawyer in the book has a SD but will never tell anybody what it is because he is embarassed about his condition. Asking peole with SDs to have ID is putting a lot of red tape. It should not be up to the government to decide what is deserving/undeserving. The comparison with a Social Security card is bad one. You get a SS card when you are born, everybody has them so you are not singling out a group. Unless you lose yours, you do not have to replace it, there is no red tape. How long would it take to issue one of these cards? What is the person with the SD supposed to do in the meantime? Not go out.

Unfortunately, the allergy/fear issue is there, but there is no good alternative. I have a friend who is visually impaired and uses a SD to get around, she relies on that dog. Should she be made to get off a train just because somebody there may have an allergy or be afraid? She relies on this dog for independence, especially in an unfamiliar area. Most people with allergies have mild allergies that can be avoided by simply moving to a different part of the establishment. As for people with fears, having a fear does not give you the right to kick somebody out. I might have a fear of somebody who is middle eastern on a plane (common these days), but that does not mean they shouldn't be allowed. Properly trained SDs are very quiet, and most people with feras of dogs do not have undue problems when they are in the same place as an SD because of the control the owner has over the SD.

No, the ADA is not perfect, but it is a stretch to say that allowing people with SDs full access that everybody else gets infringement upon the rights of others. At least 99% of the time, the SD will not endanger the health and safety of another person, unless we are talking severe allergies. People have severe allergies to fragrances but businesses don't kick out people for wearing perfume, why should an SD who performs a vital function be any different?

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, I disagree. I see abuse on a daily basis and frankly it is more harmful to the disabled person because without some sort of ID process the shadow of doubt falls on them as well. I think I would rather people knew what my problem was than to be looked at with a judgmental eye from the public. As I said it is my opinion. This is one of the flaws in the Political correct thinking mode. In order to establish laws to protect people, in this fashion, they had to identify whatever problem the person had as embarrassing or shameful. What kind of crock is that? Able bodied people thinking that this disabled person will be somewhat embarrassed because they are less the "perfect". My experience has shown that people with genuine disabilities are not ashamed to say what they are. People trying to hide something don't like to answer questions. Again, my opinion.

I think that what some of the posters are saying, is to simply have a GENERIC "ID" for the service animal that identifies it as a service animal, nothing more. Then it would eliminate the "BS" people that are taking their pet along, and claiming it is a service dog.

The tag doesn't have to say WHAT it does, just that it is a service dog.

I think a LOT of people are getting suspecious of the number of "service dogs" that seem to be only pets.

Exactly...it is more the extremes that the government sets in its fervor to protect everyone from life.

[NessaMcTastic]

I looked at the pictures of Tattoo Guy's house and all I can say is "Obsess much?" Walt himself didn't have that much stuff. I love Disney too, but this guy's house makes me want to vomit from Disney overload.

http://www.disneytattooguy.com/housepics.htm

There comes a time when that much stuff stops looking cool or interesting and starts looking tacky.

Also, did anyone notice the boxed wine sitting on his kitchen counter? Way to stay classy! :p:

The English major in me keeps cringing every single time I see "tattoo's" on his site. ARGH!

[felinefan]

I remember back in high school, I was taking archery for P.E.. Our teacher told us of an incident when everyone was going to collect their arrows after shooting, one girl went down. The teacher said she thought, OMG,who shot? She then found out that this girl had epilepsy, but had refused to tell anybody about her condition. At that time, the early 70s, there was a lot of misinformation about epilepsy around.
Another time, my youngest sister told me about how she was out with some friends, one of whom was an insulin-dependent diabetic (uncommon at that time), who also kept her condition a secret, and had sworn my sister to secrecy. Well, while they were out, the diabetic friend started acting weird, and my sister knew this girl needed sugar to snap out of it. So she asked one of the other girls for a stick of gum (sugarless had only been recently introduced, and it wasn't that popular then); the other girl, thinking it was a joke, got bratty and said no. My sister really had to walk a tightrope between revealing her friend's condition and getting the gum, so she had to really threaten this girl to give her the gum or else. So the gum was finally handed over, to protests of "That was my last stick!", and given to this girl in diabetic shock. She made it.
But what if those two people had continued to keep their conditions a secret out of fear of people misunderstanding them or rejecting them? Either one could've ended badly, especially the diabetic. People today are prepared to educate others about their conditions and needs, and more people are better educated about such things. Better to let people know you have these conditions than keep silent and having something really bad happen to you as a result.

[idratherbeinwdw]

Everyone posting here is entitled to their opinions of course, but if the tattoo guy is happy in his own little Disney World what's the harm? Even though most of us don't have anywhere near as much memorabilia as "Mr. Tattoo", I bet many non Disney folks think we are obsessive about WDW compared to them. Just my two centavos. :)

[thomaskr]

I looked at the pictures of Tattoo Guy's house and all I can say is "Obsess much?" Walt himself didn't have that much stuff. I love Disney too, but this guy's house makes me want to vomit from Disney overload.

http://www.disneytattooguy.com/housepics.htm

Just imagine him trying to SELL this house of his. ouch. Noticed that the "Micky Pond" looks "Barnaby Bear Pond". You'd think that a mega fan would have at least done *some* design work before slapping in a 12 foot fountain.

[Elena (aka: Bubble Lady)]

omg, i had to read this whole posting to see if me and elyse were listed here :eek:

[Whazzup]

omg, i had to read this whole posting to see if me and elyse were listed here :eek:

SCARY is not the word I would use to describe you and Elyse, you silly bubble-blowing woman! :D:

[Sioban]

At least the Tattoo Guy is nice and generally friendly. There are lost of regulars who aren't either of those things.

[Main_Street_Merch]

But where the line should be drawn when it comes to "Stalker" and simple fun? Don't things (following characters and CM's around) like that lead to something worse?

When it's not Star Wars Weekends Linda Skywalker is obsessed with High School Musical. She wears a cheerleading costume (which is against the rules and its completely unfair that she is allowed to do that when no one else is, but that's another thread) and carries around a giant "W" shaped photo collage. She approached one of the entertainment CM's after the show because she wanted to show him the picture she had of him on the collage. It was him at Epcot on his day off. Its not ok, that's stalking. I've had long discussions with Linda and agree that she isn't dangerous, just a little different, but this is taking it way to far.

[Syndrome]

I've never seen Linda in the flesh. Does she even have the appropriate body type for a cheerleading costume?! :eek:

[Main_Street_Merch]

I have a question for CMs, would you want to know in advance that my son is autistic? He can be very animated at times but very flat at others. He is still a child but I can't help but worry about how people will react to him when he is an adult and I can't be there to help him every minute. So, if he were older and fully grown, would you want me to let you know he is autistic right off? It is easier to recognize Downs Syndrome than Autism. I'm honestly just curious.

Others have said this, but that is entirely up to you. I have worked with Autistic kids, so when parents let me know about their child's Autism I do everything I can to accommodate that child. But if you don't want to explain it to every CM you pass just get a Guest Assistance Card to use when he's having a hard time. I think most CM's want to do everything possible to make sure our guests have a good time, sometimes that means knowing about special circumstances. If we knew the whole story it would probably clear up a lot of the issues in this thread.

[EeyoresButterfly]

There's a couple of regulars at WoF that are more on the unusual side, not sure I would go so far as to call them scary.

One guy is apparently there almost every weekend, and he walks around in a WoF jacket, nice button down shirt, and tie. I honestly thought he was a manager or supervisor. I remember asking him a question which made it clear I thought he was a manager or supervisor and he never bothered to correct the impression.

Another guy is known as the "Mamba King". He has a really grungy looking airbrushed shirt with that on there. My father rode in the same car with him one day and he was trying to ride it 60 times in one day. I understand having a favorite ride, but that's taking it a bit far. He was in he audience for the show my family and I saw yesterday and he and his entire group were very obnoxious. One member of the group was yelling across the theatre as he came to join them, and said a few curse words. Now, I was with my cousin and her children who are 5 and 8 respectively, and I felt their behavior was very inappropriate with young kids right there. I felt kind of bad for the cast members of the show because of some of the comments they were making during the show.

[Syndrome]

Uh oh, I'd better watch it or I'm gonna find myself on this thread as "Crazy Monorail Head Lady." I've been visiting the parks more than usual this summer, and I always wear my headpiece that makes it look like a monorail had run through my head (think Steve Martin arrow). I get lots of CM and guest comments about it. I don't think they sell 'em anymore...got it years ago at the Contemporary.

[EeyoresButterfly]

That's neat! I bet a lot of people like it! I think the best way to get yourself mentioned here is to either stalk certain CMs (mainly entertainment) or be belligerent to the CMs.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Uh oh, I'd better watch it or I'm gonna find myself on this thread as "Crazy Monorail Head Lady." I've been visiting the parks more than usual this summer, and I always wear my headpiece that makes it look like a monorail had run through my head (think Steve Martin arrow). I get lots of CM and guest comments about it. I don't think they sell 'em anymore...got it years ago at the Contemporary.

You should get busy and make a Monorail hat, like the "Cheese heads" or the Iowa "corn heads".. I bet some foam, and paint would make it look great!!!

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Uh oh, I'd better watch it or I'm gonna find myself on this thread as "Crazy Monorail Head Lady." I've been visiting the parks more than usual this summer, and I always wear my headpiece that makes it look like a monorail had run through my head (think Steve Martin arrow). I get lots of CM and guest comments about it. I don't think they sell 'em anymore...got it years ago at the Contemporary.

Nice, Syndrome! I think you should post a photo of you in that hat!

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Okay, here's an idea: Everyone tell what your favorite thing is to wear when you go to Disney. I wear my t-shirt from the 2001 (or was it 2000?) opening of DCA. It's blue with the grizzly on the back.

[hobie16]

When we went after a large gap in time, I wore a Goofy sweatshirt I bought about ten years ago. It's got a collar that sticks up to my chin so it keeps me warm at night.

I wish I'd taken it along when I moved the boat from LA to La Paz in November. The first two overnight legs were COLD!!!

[joanna71985]

Okay, here's an idea: Everyone tell what your favorite thing is to wear when you go to Disney. I wear my t-shirt from the 2001 (or was it 2000?) opening of DCA. It's blue with the grizzly on the back.

I love wearing my MK t-shirt, with all the different characters on it. The characters love trying to find themselves on it (although Chip was really disappointed to see that he was on the back, and not the front).

Uh oh, I'd better watch it or I'm gonna find myself on this thread as "Crazy Monorail Head Lady." I've been visiting the parks more than usual this summer, and I always wear my headpiece that makes it look like a monorail had run through my head (think Steve Martin arrow). I get lots of CM and guest comments about it. I don't think they sell 'em anymore...got it years ago at the Contemporary.

Post a picture!!

When it's not Star Wars Weekends Linda Skywalker is obsessed with High School Musical. She wears a cheerleading costume (which is against the rules and its completely unfair that she is allowed to do that when no one else is, but that's another thread) and carries around a giant "W" shaped photo collage. She approached one of the entertainment CM's after the show because she wanted to show him the picture she had of him on the collage. It was him at Epcot on his day off. Its not ok, that's stalking. I've had long discussions with Linda and agree that she isn't dangerous, just a little different, but this is taking it way to far.

I saw her one day in the costume! It really isn't fair, since adults are not allowed to wear costumes to the parks on a regular day.

Whoa! I can't believe she did that! That is taking things way too far.

I've never seen Linda in the flesh. Does she even have the appropriate body type for a cheerleading costume?! :eek:

Um...

[Whazzup]

Okay, here's an idea: Everyone tell what your favorite thing is to wear when you go to Disney. I wear my t-shirt from the 2001 (or was it 2000?) opening of DCA. It's blue with the grizzly on the back.

I always wear lime green shorts and blouse in the Magic Kingdom in case we run into any DISers (can I mention that here?). You know, Board X people. Some of them are not SGs. ;)

[Sarah Magdalene]

Best thing to do is just feel the vibes a guest gives off when meeting them. Your own instinct will tell you. On the travel channel, one of the 'tips' they said about strange places (or people) is that if you feel the little hairs stand up on the back of your neck - then be a little more cautions than normal. Don't show that you are scared and just leave the person as quickly and casually as possible.

All the Regulars I have read about so far do give me the heebie jeebies and I am afraid for future meetings with them. Thank goodness I'll be under the guise of a close friend if I do run into such people. I worry about my face friends though. I do NOT like the idea of face stalkers.

True that many of the people we speak of here are harmless, but I still don't think they should be allowed to have higher priority (such as Linda and her cheer outfit) than other guests and walk all over CM's as well (Snowys 'stalker').

Sorry, but this is one friend who has her guard up at all times.


oh .... I just wear to the parks whatever I wore to work that day. I do have my share of the princess things though. Mainly my tiara headband and my pink princess sequin pants and tank set. Yeah, if we were ever to to a SGT meet, you'd see me in that ...

[DisneyMom]

Okay, here's an idea: Everyone tell what your favorite thing is to wear when you go to Disney. I wear my....... .

Pin Lanyard with my Guest of Honor Pin and a BIG Smile!:D:

[turkeyham]

When I went to the Magic Kingdom Team Center with a friend who works at Epcot, I got the Pop Century t-shirt. I wear that all the time now. I will be wearing it when I go back in 5 weeks. Sept. 10-18, I need a nice rest. :D:

[Syndrome]

Mr. Syndrome is in Chicago, so I took this photo of myself...definitely makes me look scary, but at least you can see the monorail hat:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/bnlifeskills/hat.jpg

I am usually in a monorail or Soarin'-related shirt, often with my CA Soarin' wings nametag pin.

[Whazzup]

Mr. Syndrome is in Chicago, so I took this photo of myself...definitely makes me look scary, but at least you can see the monorail hat:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/bnlifeskills/hat.jpg

I am usually in a monorail or Soarin'-related shirt, often with my CA Soarin' wings nametag pin.

Oh that is a cool "hat" Syndrome! You will be easy to find at Epcot if you're there in November.

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Tres unique!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Very becoming!

You MUST wear it always when at WDW!!!!

[turkeyham]

I have an off question for those who live near WDW, where is the cheapest car rental places? I was checking the prices and wanted to bash a few web sites. I tell you the warm temps out here and the hot flashes are bad. Thanks.:eek:

[vixen101485]

Okay, here's an idea: Everyone tell what your favorite thing is to wear when you go to Disney. I wear my t-shirt from the 2001 (or was it 2000?) opening of DCA. It's blue with the grizzly on the back.

Here's my fav shirt but it will be obsolete at the end of the promotion.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb318/vixen101485/disney%20planning/IMG_0961.jpg

[mechurchlady]

Mr. Syndrome is in Chicago, so I took this photo of myself...definitely makes me look scary, but at least you can see the monorail hat:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/bnlifeskills/hat.jpg

I am usually in a monorail or Soarin'-related shirt, often with my CA Soarin' wings nametag pin.

OMG now that is scary, eek, hide the kids and the hubbies. lol

[GaTechGal]

Here's my fav shirt but it will be obsolete at the end of the promotion.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb318/vixen101485/disney%20planning/IMG_0961.jpg

Cool shirt vixen. Did you buy it or make it?

[vixen101485]

Cool shirt vixen. Did you buy it or make it?
Thank you.
I made them....cut each letter individually..:D:and ironed them on and added some fabric paint for the sparkles and outlines.
They draw a lot of attention from guests and CM's;) I have had ppl offer to buy it..lol UMMM...and what am I supposed to wear when you take my shirt..trust me, dont want to see my bare midriff.

[Syndrome]

I have an off question for those who live near WDW, where is the cheapest car rental places? I was checking the prices and wanted to bash a few web sites. I tell you the warm temps out here and the hot flashes are bad. Thanks.:eek:
Are you looking for something at or near the airport? Priceline can be a good option for that. Otherwise, Thrifty (off-site but great shuttle service) and L&M (on-site) were the cheapest back when we were doing a lot of renting.

[turkeyham]

Mrs. Syndrome,

I did check out a site and did get a rental car at Enterprise with a rate for 1 week for $100. That is with taxes.

Hopefully I can meet you folks out there. :)

[Zazu]

Okay, here's an idea: Everyone tell what your favorite thing is to wear when you go to Disney.My nametag.

But if I'm not working, I like to wear a loud Hawai'ian shirt. Makes it easier for SWMBO to find me in the crowd.

(Hey Hobie! Did I get that apostrophe in the right place? My spell checker is too dumb to know that word needs one.)

[JugglingFreak]

My nametag.

But if I'm not working, I like to wear a loud Hawai'ian shirt. Makes it easier for SWMBO to find me in the crowd.


Hey, me too. I have a vast collection of Hawai'ian shirts.. In fact, I'm willing to bet that I have more than John Lasseter does..

[ktulu]

Hey, me too. I have a vast collection of Hawai'ian shirts.. In fact, I'm willing to bet that I have more than John Lasseter does..

But I bet his Pixar themed ones are cooler than most of yours ;)

I too, have a largish collection of Hawaiian shirts, if I can just get back on the diet and fit back into some of them...

[Syndrome]

This thread made me think about my cruise line wardrobe. Mr. Syndrome and I have taken photos of the logos from all the DCL shows (except Toy Story...haven't gotten around to it yet) and had them put onto shirts. DCL should really sell shirts like that...judging by all the "Where did you get that?" comments, they would be big sellers.

I like to do custom movie shirts too...for example, I have a still of Cobra Bubbles from the movie that I put onto a shirt along with the quote "Thus far you have been adrift in the sheltered harbor of my patience."

[JugglingFreak]

But I bet his Pixar themed ones are cooler than most of yours ;)



Probably, but I have several Disney themed ones that are pretty awesome
(Though with his status at the company, he could probably get the same ones for free....)

[Cranbiz]

Probably, but I have several Disney themed ones that are pretty awesome
(Though with his status at the company, he could probably get the same ones for free....)

FREE..... FREE..... Disney gives nothing for FREE especially to CMs. (unless you are a SG who complains to a SGSM and gets comp'ed)

[hobie16]

(Hey Hobie! Did I get that apostrophe in the right place? My spell checker is too dumb to know that word needs one.)
You are correct.

I have a still of Cobra Bubbles from the movie that I put onto a shirt along with the quote "Thus far you have been adrift in the sheltered harbor of my patience."
Cobra Bubbles is da man!!

[joanna71985]

Mr. Syndrome is in Chicago, so I took this photo of myself...definitely makes me look scary, but at least you can see the monorail hat:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/bnlifeskills/hat.jpg

I am usually in a monorail or Soarin'-related shirt, often with my CA Soarin' wings nametag pin.

That really is a cool hat!!

[TdcOgre]

My nametag.

But if I'm not working, I like to wear a loud Hawai'ian shirt. Makes it easier for SWMBO to find me in the crowd.

(Hey Hobie! Did I get that apostrophe in the right place? My spell checker is too dumb to know that word needs one.)

Having seen some of Zazu's Hawai`ian shirts, I can say they're so loud that they, like the Great Wall of China, are even visible from space.

[Main Streeter]

Okay, here's an idea: Everyone tell what your favorite thing is to wear when you go to Disney.My faithfull dark blue low riding jeans, a "Jann Browne" brown tee with light white gauze type blouse & my Berks. Often bring the new fold Disney bags we sell if I'm on stage later. No fashion or style plate here. :D:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Okay, here's an idea: Everyone tell what your favorite thing is to wear when you go to Disney. I wear my t-shirt from the 2001 (or was it 2000?) opening of DCA. It's blue with the grizzly on the back.

An SPF 30 shirt from lands end OR a Disney hawaiian shirt, with 511 shorts and a good pair of hiking shoes!

[Amphigorey]

Regarding Disney and fashion, I've occasionally thought that I'd like to get pictures of my Victorian ballgown at the Grand Floridian, because a) I still don't have many decent pictures of it (just this one (http://flickr.com/photos/corpsefairy/2740797270/)) and b) it goes with the interior color scheme. (That was entirely unintentional when I made it, really!)

I haven't, though, because it feels awkward going somewhere just to take pictures, especially if they are pictures of me and I don't have a particular occasion to justify it. Also, I wouldn't want to call attention to myself; I just want pictures of my ballgown in a beautiful place!

[turkeyham]

I was watching the local news. In Austin,Tx a college was having a cheer leading comp. The cheer brats had a contest how many they could put in and elevator. They were mentioning 27 until it got stuck. 30 minutes went by and the fire department had to rescue them. :twisted:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Regarding Disney and fashion, I've occasionally thought that I'd like to get pictures of my Victorian ballgown at the Grand Floridian, because a) I still don't have many decent pictures of it (just this one (http://flickr.com/photos/corpsefairy/2740797270/)) and b) it goes with the interior color scheme. (That was entirely unintentional when I made it, really!)

I haven't, though, because it feels awkward going somewhere just to take pictures, especially if they are pictures of me and I don't have a particular occasion to justify it. Also, I wouldn't want to call attention to myself; I just want pictures of my ballgown in a beautiful place!

I don't see why not! Just be ready for SG's to think that you work there!

[BRWombat]

I was watching the local news. In Austin,Tx a college was having a cheer leading comp. The cheer brats had a contest how many they could put in and elevator. They were mentioning 27 until it got stuck. 30 minutes went by and the fire department had to rescue them. :twisted:Hang on, let me compose myself. Okay.

Wow, that's really scary and dangerous. It's a good thing that no one got hurt.

Okay, now that I've said that...

BWAAAAAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!!! :hysteria:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Hang on, let me compose myself. Okay.

Wow, that's really scary and dangerous. It's a good thing that no one got hurt.

Okay, now that I've said that...

BWAAAAAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!!! :hysteria:

So there IS justice..Too bad the firefighters didn't have an "urgent" other call that left them in there for a few hours!


HA!

[hobie16]

Hang on, let me compose myself. Okay.

Wow, that's really scary and dangerous. It's a good thing that no one got hurt.

Okay, now that I've said that...

BWAAAAAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!!! :hysteria:
What he said!!

[ktulu]

My office building has been invaded by high school kids. I hear some mumbled speaker from the 2nd floor (they are on the 7th, but atrium in middle of building) and then cheering. The Starbucks guy has been busy in the morning though with the influx of these kids. So far they have been well behaved, at least from my observations. We have glass elevators, so it would be fun to see them stuck in one of those :D:

[Belgarion42]

Regarding Disney and fashion, I've occasionally thought that I'd like to get pictures of my Victorian ballgown at the Grand Floridian, because a) I still don't have many decent pictures of it (just this one (http://flickr.com/photos/corpsefairy/2740797270/)) and b) it goes with the interior color scheme. (That was entirely unintentional when I made it, really!)

That's a beautiful dress!

[Sarah Magdalene]

That's a beautiful dress!

And I'd kill to have the same "frontal fillers" as you! Wanna share just one with this "A" cupper?

I love such costumes, but I know I'd never look good in them due to my lackage of a couple of things.

[Whazzup]

Regarding Disney and fashion, I've occasionally thought that I'd like to get pictures of my Victorian ballgown at the Grand Floridian, because a) I still don't have many decent pictures of it (just this one (http://flickr.com/photos/corpsefairy/2740797270/)) and b) it goes with the interior color scheme. (That was entirely unintentional when I made it, really!)

I haven't, though, because it feels awkward going somewhere just to take pictures, especially if they are pictures of me and I don't have a particular occasion to justify it. Also, I wouldn't want to call attention to myself; I just want pictures of my ballgown in a beautiful place!

Hey Sarah - does that guy in the picture look somewhat familiar? Kind of like a tall skinny guy who works on Main Street? :D:

[Big Wallaby]

Well, maybe a little familiar. For our particular friend, the guy in the picture is just too short.

[Whazzup]

Well, maybe a little familiar. For our particular friend, the guy in the picture is just too short.

Either that, or that's a really tall woman! However, that guy looks a little older than our friend, too.

[joanna71985]

I was watching the local news. In Austin,Tx a college was having a cheer leading comp. The cheer brats had a contest how many they could put in and elevator. They were mentioning 27 until it got stuck. 30 minutes went by and the fire department had to rescue them. :twisted:

HA!!!!

Regarding Disney and fashion, I've occasionally thought that I'd like to get pictures of my Victorian ballgown at the Grand Floridian, because a) I still don't have many decent pictures of it (just this one (http://flickr.com/photos/corpsefairy/2740797270/)) and b) it goes with the interior color scheme. (That was entirely unintentional when I made it, really!)

I haven't, though, because it feels awkward going somewhere just to take pictures, especially if they are pictures of me and I don't have a particular occasion to justify it. Also, I wouldn't want to call attention to myself; I just want pictures of my ballgown in a beautiful place!

Wow, it's beautiful!

[Amphigorey]

And I'd kill to have the same "frontal fillers" as you! Wanna share just one with this "A" cupper?

I love such costumes, but I know I'd never look good in them due to my lackage of a couple of things.

Believe me, if I could, I would. It's a pain being this size; it's hard to find clothing that fits, I can't wear many styles of dresses (strapless and spaghetti straps are right out, not to mention crossbacks and halters), and don't even get me started on swimsuits. I can't find undergarments my size in this country; American companies don't even MAKE them. I have to order bras from England, and they aren't cheap. I envy people who can walk into Ross and buy $10 bras that fit!

I'm sure I could build you a Victorian gown you'd look fabulous in. Corsets can do amazing things, and they're a good deal more comfortable than you might think. :)

joanna71985 said:

Wow, it's beautiful!

Thanks! It's an 1880s replica bustle gown that I built a few years ago. (There is a bustle under there. I should get pictures of it, it looks like a lobster tail. I love it.)

I doubt anyone knows the man in the picture; he's a friend of mine from vintage dancing. That's a genuine antique Edwardian (1900s) suit he's wearing, too.

[Shorty82]

I can see the resemblance. I'd think I could pull that kind of outfit off, people say I look really handsome in my Main Street costume.

[Whazzup]

I can see the resemblance. I'd think I could pull that kind of outfit off, people say I look really handsome in my Main Street costume.

I'm looking forward to taking some pictures of you in November in your costume and showing them to the people who were at the Cruise Line party. Knowing how much you wanted to work at Disney, and that you were able to realize your dream, makes me so proud. I know, I'm starting to sound like your mom or something. :rolleyes:

[Shorty82]

I'm looking forward to taking some pictures of you in November in your costume and showing them to the people who were at the Cruise Line party. Knowing how much you wanted to work at Disney, and that you were able to realize your dream, makes me so proud. I know, I'm starting to sound like your mom or something. :rolleyes:

I'll email you a picture I have of me in costume. Sound like my mom all you want, she's in Heaven so she can't tell me those things.

[Princess Susi]

Believe me, if I could, I would. It's a pain being this size; it's hard to find clothing that fits, I can't wear many styles of dresses (strapless and spaghetti straps are right out, not to mention crossbacks and halters), and don't even get me started on swimsuits. I can't find undergarments my size in this country; American companies don't even MAKE them. I have to order bras from England, and they aren't cheap. I envy people who can walk into Ross and buy $10 bras that fit!

I'm sure I could build you a Victorian gown you'd look fabulous in. Corsets can do amazing things, and they're a good deal more comfortable than you might think. :)


I had the same problem a few years ago, I had to special order 44II bras and I had reduction surgery. They took 7 lbs off my chest. I feel so much better now at 40C. Believe me, it helped my posture, my back and got rid of headaches. I am so glad I had that surgery. For me it was hormonal, started menopause and my hormones got all out of whack and I started growing and growing and it was not stopping. I had to get new bras every month. It was weird!

That is a gorgeous dress, by the way. I absolutely love it. I love most everything Victorian. The styles were just beautiful then.

The Princess

[DisneyMom]

I had the same problem a few years ago, I had to special order 44II bras and I had reduction surgery. They took 7 lbs off my chest. I feel so much better now at 40C. Believe me, it helped my posture, my back and got rid of headaches. I am so glad I had that surgery. For me it was hormonal, started menopause and my hormones got all out of whack and I started growing and growing and it was not stopping. I had to get new bras every month. It was weird!

That is a gorgeous dress, by the way. I absolutely love it. I love most everything Victorian. The styles were just beautiful then.

The Princess

Wow, all the fun of puberty twice!:eek:
Yeah, I'm "Gifted" as well, and it is a pain.
Why women get breast augmentation has always been a mystery to me:confused:

Very nice picture of you and your dress!:)

[NessaMcTastic]

I can't find undergarments my size in this country; American companies don't even MAKE them. I have to order bras from England, and they aren't cheap. I envy people who can walk into Ross and buy $10 bras that fit!

Have you tried Frederick's of Hollywood? I'm a 34F (small back, big bust. This was after losing 15lbs! I went from a 36DD to a 34F. ARGH!) and they have a wide variety of band/cup combos in lots of cute colors. I've never had a problem finding my size at their stores. Plus they're around $25 each.

I was considering having them reduced but now that finding a good quality inexpensive and nice looking bra isn't a pain I don't want to.

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Regarding Disney and fashion, I've occasionally thought that I'd like to get pictures of my Victorian ballgown at the Grand Floridian, because a) I still don't have many decent pictures of it (just this one (http://flickr.com/photos/corpsefairy/2740797270/)) and b) it goes with the interior color scheme. (That was entirely unintentional when I made it, really!)



Wow, you made that gown? It's awesome! You should definitely take it to the GF and get pix taken.

[Mayonnaise]

And I'd kill to have the same "frontal fillers" as you! Wanna share just one with this "A" cupper?

I love such costumes, but I know I'd never look good in them due to my lackage of a couple of things.

I've always believed, "Anything more than a handful is a waste." I'm GLAD to be an A-cup. Nothing against bigger chested ladies, but there's no reason for you too feel like you're MISSING anything Sarah. I mean... look at the Venus De Milo! Supposed to be the epitome of beauty. No giant rack there! Bigger does NOT always mean better.

8^)

[BRWombat]

Okay, I've tried my best to stay out of this conversation, but I just couldn't let this slide...
And I'd kill to have the same "frontal fillers" as you! Wanna share just one with this "A" cupper?"Just one"??? :eek: :confused:

[Figment76]

American companies don't even MAKE them. I have to order bras from England, and they aren't cheap. I envy people who can walk into Ross and buy $10 bras that fit!

Have you seen a catalogue or the website Just My Size (http://www.jms.com)? They have sizes that go up to J. I've ordered from them before. They've got good quality, decent selection, and inexpensive prices. In fact, I think they've even got a sale going on right now.

And that is a stunning dress, by the way. All the more impressive that you made it yourself.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Okay, I've tried my best to stay out of this conversation, but I just couldn't let this slide...
"Just one"??? :eek: :confused:

I saw that also, but was too afarid to post anything.

(awful LOT of TMI here!)

hehehehehe

[Belgarion42]

Okay, I've tried my best to stay out of this conversation, but I just couldn't let this slide...
"Just one"??? :eek: :confused:

I saw that also, but was too afarid to post anything.

Same here! :D

[Whazzup]

Okay, I've tried my best to stay out of this conversation, but I just couldn't let this slide...
"Just one"??? :eek: :confused:

I was wondering when one of the guys was going to make a comment. I'm surprised Grumpy Pirate (and others) have been able to resist adding their two cents worth. Of course, we all know what many guys think about this subject. :rolleyes:
Wombat - good job adding a touch of humor to the discussion. ;)

[Sarah Magdalene]

Okay, I've tried my best to stay out of this conversation, but I just couldn't let this slide...
"Just one"??? :eek: :confused:

Divided, of course!

Geez, you guys and your fascination about any talk about Bazoombas ....

[Sarah Magdalene]

I've always believed, "Anything more than a handful is a waste." I'm GLAD to be an A-cup. Nothing against bigger chested ladies, but there's no reason for you too feel like you're MISSING anything Sarah. I mean... look at the Venus De Milo! Supposed to be the epitome of beauty. No giant rack there! Bigger does NOT always mean better.

8^)

True, true. A cupping isn't a bad thing. But to be able to wear dresses like the one above! Wow, I'd be thrilled! Lots of the more fashionable clothes in Juniors dept. always seem to require some filling. I have made up for it by wearing lits of tight fitting tops, to enhance what little I do have.

[DisneyMom]

I was wondering when one of the guys was going to make a comment. I'm surprised Grumpy Pirate (and others) have been able to resist adding their two cents worth. Of course, we all know what many guys think about this subject. :rolleyes:
Wombat - good job adding a touch of humor to the discussion. ;)

I don't think they were resisting, I think it just took them some time to figure out what all those numbers and letters (from the bra sizes) meant!:rolleyes:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Divided, of course!

Geez, you guys and your fascination about any talk about Bazoombas ....

I prefer the Steve Martin reference of "Golden Bozo's"

[hobie16]

I believe I can speak for all the males here when I say...

:eek::eek::eek::eek: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Sarah Magdalene]

I prefer the Steve Martin reference of "Golden Bozo's"

Golden?

Hmmm ... I wonder what kinds HE has seen.

[hobie16]

Golden?

Hmmm ... I wonder what kinds HE has seen.
Maybe it was the Bond Girl from Gold Finger.

[felinefan]

There's this online store called MyShape.com; to register you have to take measurements as indicated of yourself, they analyze the measurements and assign you a letter from the words "My Shape". Because of my poverty, I haven't been able to buy anything from them, but I get their emailings, and I'm quite pleased at how they've grown. I don't know if they have lingerie, but no harm in asking. I'm an "A" shape. But the clothes they show are very nice. Why not check them out?

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

There's this online store called MyShape.com; to register you have to take measurements as indicated of yourself, they analyze the measurements and assign you a letter from the words "My Shape". Because of my poverty, I haven't been able to buy anything from them, but I get their emailings, and I'm quite pleased at how they've grown. I don't know if they have lingerie, but no harm in asking. I'm an "A" shape. But the clothes they show are very nice. Why not check them out?

See Wombat, you don't have to use photoshop anymore!!!


hehehehe


RUM?

[bmn]

This is quite an interesting thread. I find it rather cool how some - let's say, "diverse" - guests are given nicknames and seem to have unique themes, just like in comic books. (For example, Winslow Schott is a toy-themed supervillain and is given the nickname "Toyman.")

[Canuikstan]

While we were at DHS last week GrUvGrL and I saw/recognized the Tattoo guy.. he was chatting up a CM one time, and just kinda leaning around on a trash can people watching the second time.

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Did you snap photos?

[Canuikstan]

Nah.. i got a good look at his ink though.. he was just hanging out with his red tank top... and i didn't want to turn him into an attraction (if ya know what i mean).. i suppose that's what he wants though...

while i was in the park, i covered up most of mine (except for the 2 on my calves and the two on my forearms mostly due to wearing shorts and t-shirts.. long sleeves and pants would have killed me in that heat!!)

[Ms. Matterhorn]

i didn't want to turn him into an attraction (if ya know what i mean)

Yeah, good thinkin'!;)

[TechieSidhe]

DH and I were at the Magic Kingdom Friday night (the 5th) for the MVMCP. As we were entering the stretching room in the Haunted Mansion, we noticed something interesting.

It was a woman, early 20's, dressed in a Minnie outfit. Okay, not really a Minnie outfit, but this was the streetwalker version. If she bent over, you could tell her age. I was going to take a pic, but it would have been obvious. We saw her with three different guys over the course of the evening.

Don't they normally make them leave and change?

[jsilvers]

It was a woman, early 20's, dressed in a Minnie outfit. Okay, not really a Minnie outfit, but this was the streetwalker version. If she bent over, you could tell her age. I was going to take a pic, but it would have been obvious. We saw her with three different guys over the course of the evening.

Don't they normally make them leave and change?

In October, I saw the streetwalker versions of "Alice" and "Snow White" surrounded by security in Fantasyland, presumably about to be evicted from the park....

[turkeyham]

There is the guest who comes to the park on the weekends. He works with a toy company. It is called Green Army men. The guy always gets turkey legs for his boss. This guy I talked to has been working for the toy company for a few years. He is really nice and he said his boss likes making toys and keeps him busy.

In Cypress, CA there is a big toy manufactuer. It is called Bandi. My brother says that it is a Japanese toy company. I never new it was here. I thought it was a computer company. I heard the company is big in Japan.

[Mayonnaise]

Bandai has a niche of their own over here too. They make all the toys for Power Rangers and Ben 10. (They have a nameplate at the end of Power Rangers on TV too.) They also made Tamagotchi. Remember Tomagatchi? Whether I know this because my SO collects Power Rangers Toys, or because I used to work in a Big Box Toystore... well I'm not sure.

8^P