I'd like a kids meal for my....er, I thought you had him dear.

[glendalais]

This is actually a bit sad, but also quite funny.

A family comes up to the counter and orders a Kids Meal. Another CM mentions to them that the Kids Meals are meant for little kids. They say that they are ordering it for their daughter:

(Not an exact word for word quote, but a good paraphrase)

Father: She's right here *points*....er, honey, where is she?

Mother: I thought you had her.

Father: No, you had her.

Mother: OMG!

They proceeded to run around the restaurant looking for her. They eventually find her off in the seating area.

Makes you wonder what's it's like at home.

[CMGUY89]

LOL! Speaking solely from a CM's perspective I find it a little funny when parents immediately demand you call the police because someone has "abducted" their child. While I understand it is that paternal instinct, I always have to calm them down a little before we send in the marines. But I am also the first one to call security after the 5-10 minute mark.

[Shorty82]

Keep track of your kids, people!

I know the kid's meals are meant for little kids but I thought anyone could get them. Both my brother and I got kid's meals a few times when I was last down there when we didn't feel like eating an entire adult meal. A couple of times the kid's meal is enough for me and it is better than wasting a bunch of food I couldn't eat.

I'm surprised the CM said something, how did he know the kid wasn't with someone else in the family who is already seated? I'm glad he did, of course, since it made the parents realize their kid was missing and to go look for him.

If I had a kid and I was at WDW I'd be keeping a VERY close eye on him. I'd know exactly where he is and if not with me who he was with at all times.

[drcorey]

I don't like kids meals very much, every kid I got was tough and chewy. :eek:

[glendalais]

I know the kid's meals are meant for little kids but I thought anyone could get them. Both my brother and I got kid's meals a few times when I was last down there when we didn't feel like eating an entire adult meal. A couple of times the kid's meal is enough for me and it is better than wasting a bunch of food I couldn't eat.

I'm surprised the CM said something, how did he know the kid wasn't with someone else in the family who is already seated? I'm glad he did, of course, since it made the parents realize their kid was missing and to go look for him.
Actually, this is part CM Trick, also. The other CM is new, just hired in 2 weeks ago, I believe. He still thought that the Kids Meals were exclusively limited to little kids (for the record, they're not).

Talk about Beginner's Luck, eh?

[acourtwdw]

I don't like kids meals very much, every kid I got was tough and chewy. :eek:

LOL!

[Tara_Lee3]

hey, I can laugh.. but I've seen this happen too... And in a Foreign Country! :eek:

Mom, dad and their little ones were hanging out on a German street just waiting for the bus. :bus: A Military family, out to see the sights. You know how it is. With several little ones wandering it may have been tough to keep track.

Well, the bus comes. Parents enter via separate doors each thinking their son is with the other parent. Mom gets on with two kids in front to pay for them all. Dad gets on with two kids in back. (one in a stroller, the other helping to lift the stroller up the step.):strolatt:

And as the bus starts rolling off, a little four year old boy realizes he's been left and starts chasing the bus!! :bart:

Mom happens to notice him. Realizes she's missed one, and desperately searching for a German phrase, points dramatically out the window shouting, "Halt! Mine Kindt!" (forgive the spelling.. I'm an American *grin*)

Of course the bus stops. The abandoned little one is retrieved. And the other inhabitants of the bus begin counting.. "one, two, three, four... Five!? No wonder she lost one!" :p:

:ducks:

[turkeyham]

I can relate to the story above. when I was in Las Vegas. I was waiting for my sister to get out of a nursing convention. A family lost their 2 young kids in the casino some home. These kids took off running. I did see a sign saying no kids allowed in the gambling areas. Please keep an eye on them. Security looked for 1 hour and hound them at the snack bar. :twisted:

[felinefan]

Back in the 80s, I worked as a security guard--rent-a-cop type, they send you to their contract places--and once I was working in the now-defunct Gemco store in the San Fernando Valley. One day, this guy comes around, upset, and asks if I've seen his kids. He described them, and since I hadn't seen them, I said no. Since this was around the time Adam Walsh went missing and was found dead, some parents were really wary of their kids going off. Anyway, this guy says, "Well, they better be here, or I'm going to go home and get my gun and settle this right here":eek:--meaning if he found a stranger with his kids, he was going to take the law into his own hands. Luckily, his wife was in the store, and she had the kids. I later saw them walking out of the store together. I was never so glad to see a family leave the store!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Those guys can move FAST. I now don't blame the parents, with their kids, who have the "wrist leash" on.

[DisneyMom]

Back in the 80s, I worked as a security guard--rent-a-cop type, they send you to their contract places--and once I was working in the now-defunct Gemco store in the San Fernando Valley. One day, this guy comes around, upset, and asks if I've seen his kids. He described them, and since I hadn't seen them, I said no. Since this was around the time Adam Walsh went missing and was found dead, some parents were really wary of their kids going off. Anyway, this guy says, "Well, they better be here, or I'm going to go home and get my gun and settle this right here":eek:--meaning if he found a stranger with his kids, he was going to take the law into his own hands. Luckily, his wife was in the store, and she had the kids. I later saw them walking out of the store together. I was never so glad to see a family leave the store!

gotta love the people in the SFV!!!!!!;)

Lost My Son Jamie once at Disneyland......Stupid lady I was with had rented
a stroller for her sick 6 year old...Jamie was maybe 5. All of a sudden she takes off RUNNING for Indiana Jones back in the day of the 2 hour waits.Jamie runs after her. I'm dragging Jamie's 3 year old brother, can't keep up, but I'm thinking she'll keep track
of Jamie....Wrongo! I finally find her in line, she has no idea where he is!:eek:
I tell her off, then go to security. They found him quickly, I was so grateful!
She was such a beyotch, after that she was telling everyone at work how my kids were such brats..yeah, they whined a little at the turnstiles, that's it,but then they weren't lethargic with illness like her grandaughter:rolleyes:
A couple years after that she said her daughter's 2 year old was diagnosed with autism..I hope she would be more attentive to that kid than she was with mine!:mad:

[February]

Those guys can move FAST. I now don't blame the parents, with their kids, who have the "wrist leash" on.

I don't either and I wouldn't hesitate to use one.

We did our own variation when my daughter was little by having her hold onto either the stroller if she had to walk, the strap of my mother's purse or the long end of the belt that was loose after I tightened my belt-pack. If she let go, someone knew it.

My mother also dutifully taped a label to the back of her shirt every morning with our cell phone number on it.

Of course, being that we were attentive she never got lost. She now could give directions to anyone, anywhere as to how to get from A to B on property and even does the Disney Point LOL. She learned it from the concierges at the GF. LOL

This isn't a joke- I may have told this story before forgive me if I'm repeating. I was in a ladies room at the Studios one morning on a trip a few years back and a woman was screaming at her daughter because she had almost left to go outside while the mother was washing her hands. She saw the look cross my face at the shout and she said "We saw an attempted abduction this morning, so I'm still rattled." She told me that a family with several small children was unloading from the bus at MK and a strange woman just took the two year old by the hand and quietly led the child away. As the bus was crowded, it took a minute to unload everyone. then the family was all off the bus and counting heads on the curb and immediately the mother starts freaking out.

I guess the child was a little ways up the lot by that point- and the woman heard the commotion and took off just leaving the child behind.

People get a false sense of security in WDW. You just can't afford to.

[Whazzup]

I don't either and I wouldn't hesitate to use one.

We did our own variation when my daughter was little by having her hold onto either the stroller if she had to walk, the strap of my mother's purse or the long end of the belt that was loose after I tightened my belt-pack. If she let go, someone knew it.

My mother also dutifully taped a label to the back of her shirt every morning with our cell phone number on it.

Of course, being that we were attentive she never got lost. She now could give directions to anyone, anywhere as to how to get from A to B on property and even does the Disney Point LOL. She learned it from the concierges at the GF. LOL

This isn't a joke- I may have told this story before forgive me if I'm repeating. I was in a ladies room at the Studios one morning on a trip a few years back and a woman was screaming at her daughter because she had almost left to go outside while the mother was washing her hands. She saw the look cross my face at the shout and she said "We saw an attempted abduction this morning, so I'm still rattled." She told me that a family with several small children was unloading from the bus at MK and a strange woman just took the two year old by the hand and quietly led the child away. As the bus was crowded, it took a minute to unload everyone. then the family was all off the bus and counting heads on the curb and immediately the mother starts freaking out.

I guess the child was a little ways up the lot by that point- and the woman heard the commotion and took off just leaving the child behind.

People get a false sense of security in WDW. You just can't afford to.

AAACCCKKK!!! Scary! :eek:

[acourtwdw]

I probably shouldn't admit this, but we lost my niece on the Wonder during the first few hours we were on the ship. There was 10 of us going to our staterooms. She was 10 and ran up the stairs faster then her parents and us. We didn't realize that she was missing until we got to the staterooms. Thank goodness we always told the kids if they get seperated to find a CM at the last place we were all together. We found her about 10 minutes later at the kids club. She was talking to the CMs. Thank You- Great Disney CM's.

[Zazu]

I was in a ladies room at the Studios one morning on a trip a few years back and a woman was screaming at her daughter because she had almost left to go outside while the mother was washing her hands. She saw the look cross my face at the shout and she said "We saw an attempted abduction this morning, so I'm still rattled." She told me that a family with several small children was unloading from the bus at MK and a strange woman just took the two year old by the hand and quietly led the child away. As the bus was crowded, it took a minute to unload everyone. When the family was all off the bus and counting heads on the curb and immediately the mother starts freaking out.

I guess the child was a little ways up the lot by that point- and the woman heard the commotion and took off just leaving the child behind.

People get a false sense of security in WDW. You just can't afford to.Just for reference, there has never been a kidnapping at WDW. We checked FBI and Orange County records and there's not a single case on file.

Mind you, a few kids have been kidnapped and *taken* to WDW.... I mean, how do you think we keep Small World staffed?

[February]

Just for reference, there has never been a kidnapping at WDW. We checked FBI and Orange County records and there's not a single case on file.

Mind you, a few kids have been kidnapped and *taken* to WDW.... I mean, how do you think we keep Small World staffed?

Please delete my previous post.

I know what happened to me as a child once in WDW is motivation enough to keep me from ever letting my own kid go off alone in WDW but hey, since there has never been a documented abduction, then I must not know what I'm talking about in the other instance. So please delete it.

Thanks.

[Zazu]

I know what happened to me as a child once in WDW is motivation enough to keep me from ever letting my own kid go off alone in WDW but hey, since there has never been a documented abduction, then I must not know what I'm talking about in the other instance.I'm sorry, I never meant to dis you or to doubt what you reported. I know that bad things do happen everywhere, WDW included.

However, there are a lot of Internet rumors about kid snatching at the Parks, and it's nice for me to be able to say it's never happened. I will admit that sentence probably deserves a "yet" at the end.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Please delete my previous post.

I know what happened to me as a child once in WDW is motivation enough to keep me from ever letting my own kid go off alone in WDW but hey, since there has never been a documented abduction, then I must not know what I'm talking about in the other instance. So please delete it.

Thanks.

DON"T delete it. The reason is that it is a good example of a wise attitude on watching your kids.

In my profession, I have heard people say things like this. The truth behind stories like that, which evolve to urban legends, is that people do not believe that a fear of theirs will be held with the same conviction that they hold it, by others, so they "personify" it with a tale of horror, such as "If the mother had just been a little more attentive, it would not have happened" and so forth. Indeed, if you read a lot of the urban legends about personal safety, the theme comes out again and again. A moments focus off the child and he is gone! The kid in your story could have waited outside the bathroom with no problems, but in the mother mind, that way lead to certain abduction. The sad truth is that a person that wants to abduct a child will "stalk" and see the time when they could take the child with no witnesses and chance observation.

The fact that WDW and DLR are continously crowded and busy, is actually a good thing. (not to mention security and CM's everywhere!)

Don't feel silly because you are concerned for your kids. Its no longer a time that you do not have to worry about safety. When I was growing up, I would leave my house in the summer to play with my buddies, and the only requirement was to be home for supper. Sad to say those days are gone forever.

[February]

DON"T delete it. The reason is that it is a good example of a wise attitude on watching your kids.

*snip* The sad truth is that a person that wants to abduct a child will "stalk" and see the time when they could take the child with no witnesses and chance observation.

The fact that WDW and DLR are continously crowded and busy, is actually a good thing. (not to mention security and CM's everywhere!)

Don't feel silly because you are concerned for your kids. Its no longer a time that you do not have to worry about safety. When I was growing up, I would leave my house in the summer to play with my buddies, and the only requirement was to be home for supper. Sad to say those days are gone forever.

Well, what happened to me was bad enough even though it didn't end in an abduction it very well could have- and what you say about the person watching a child of interest first was true in my case.

I hate to 'spoil' the image of pristine safety of wdw for anyone, so if you'd rather not read what happened to me, please skip the rest of this post. I have thought long and hard about posting it (posted something about it somewhere here in the past) but if it saves one kid from a bad experience it's worth it. I know it's not the most horrible thing that has ever happened to a child but it was bad enough.

I was 10. We were staying at a certain resort I will not name because there's no need to but it is a WDW on property resort.

My family had been watching in the lobby entertainment at the hotel several times during our stay- and on of the entertainers seemed to take a shine to me. My sister commented on this. I remember her saying later she didn't like the way he was looking at me. But I was 10. I was oblivious.

My parents were oblivious.

Later my parents went to take my brother to a movie in a small theater at the same resort (old time wdw-goers will remember which resort used to have a movie theater in it)

I went to buy a stuffed toy in the gift shop.

Interested CM got off of work and followed me there (not in costume- in street clothes)

I didn't know what to do.

I remembered that my family was in the theater and instead of going to the nearest CM and asking for help (which I should have done, if my parents had trained me properly) I thought if I went there I'd be okay.

This guy FOLLOWED ME into the dark theater and as soon as he was through the doors his hands were all over me, including in my shirt. I was standing at the back, hoping he wouldn't come in- but he just came right in and up behind me and I was frozen. I was such a polite kid I didn't want to interrupt the movie.

I was TEN. Finally I thought to whisper to him that my dad was the big guy sitting in the front row.

He just let go of me and disappeared. I didn't see him again during the rest of our trip.

This experience taught me several things. One, that children will not know what to do if you do not teach them and tell them explicitely what to do if they are being followed.

two- that a child should be taught that it is not impolite to scream if someone is touching them in an inappropriate way. I was such a good kid I didn't want to make anyone angry by interrupting the movie.

Three- unless you explicitely tell your children that no one is allowed to touch them- if it happens- they will think somehow it was their fault.

I thought for years I must have done something to deserve the incident but I remember exactly to this day what I was wearing (it was totally normal modest clothing- jeans and a lavendar knitted sweater with a lace peter-pan style collar) i was ten and I was alone. I tried my best to think of a way out of it but I just wasn't equipped.

So.

Thank you Zazu for your additional comments- I did feel that your remarks especially the joke at the end of your first post- made me look foolish for my original post. I appreciate your apology and I likewise apologize if I have said/am saying anything disrespectful to you as a moderator here. I did not post what I did to propogate myths and I am the first on SNOPES to check out urban legends. Believe me if I had not talked to the woman myself I never would have mentioned it at all.

All I can tell you is that I was fondled by a Disney employee on disney property because my parents were too trusting. I do not blame Disney for this and I still consider Walt Disney World to be the 'home of my heart' despite the bad experience.

But you can bet I will never make that same mistake my parents made with my own child who- also, though she may look like a girly little thing, is a black belt in tae kwon do and could cheerfully dismember anyone who ever lays a hand on her.

With my blessing. I told her if anyone ever tries to touch her that she is to rip their arm off and beat them to death with it.

~Bru

[DisneyMom]

Bru, you are very brave to be able to post about your bad experience. Years ago, people just didn't talk about these things, but now, it is a necessity to discuss them with our kids. Many people who are survivors keep it inside and never get any resolution to the fact they were harmed.
You were a child, and you were blameless. That person knew exactly what they were doing, and pretty much was stalking you and probably a few others simultaneously...I do not know if you can do anything about it so many years later, but if you want to, it might make you feel better...who knows where that person is and what he is doing now. You might be the one who could stop him. Most pedophiles never stop and will actively seek proximity to children until caught.

[Purpura]

When I am working at Plaza Inn, Sometimes I'm not behind the counter and I'll see the little ones get put down so they can walk with Mom and Dad to get their food. Sometimes the little ones 2-4 year olds think "OOH Space! I can run away from Mommy and Daddy! and play!" If I happen to be sorta near where they are, I'll anticipate where they're going, and turn to face them, get low and say,"Hey. Where's Mommy/Daddy? This place is a big place, and I don't want you to get lost." Sometimes Parents pay attention, and come up behind their little ones, or the little ones get shy and go right to Parents.

[February]

(((((Disneymom))))))))

Thank you for your kind words. I'm not brave I'm just worried about other people's children- and my own when she goes to WDW with her father and step mother this spring- and their small son. I have told her that she has to be sure that the adults keep an eye on him, she's still too young to be responsible for him in such a huge place but I know how they are. The whole trip idea makes me a nervous wreck.

I know what happened to me was a minor thing- I was lucky. This event happened in 1981- and I do not believe that I can do anything about except, after all these years finally share my experience here so that others can perhaps head off danger for their own kids.

I didn't talk about it -ever- until I was an adult- and then only to my sisters. I still have never told the whole story to my parents.

Thanks for listening. Again like I said last night (early this morning?) I don't like to say anything to harm the WDW image,- I worked myself to help build up the 'magic' and perfect Disney image for the Company and I still do every day in my own ways- I still think that it is the best, and safest place in the world to take your kids on vacation.

I honestly believe with my whole heart that other resorts/cruise ships/etc provide much more of an opportunity for people to prey on children because as GP pointed out, there are thousands of good CM's that will keep an eye open and step in if they see anything that looks amiss.

I can't wait to go back to WDW and to take my child again too- but I guess I would have to admit that when I heard they were closing up that little movie theater years back, I was glad.

One last thing I want to add- everyone here who knows me at all knows CM's are still my heroes. And this could just as easily have been a guest that was inappropriate with me.


Bru

[Cranbiz]

Mind you, a few kids have been kidnapped and *taken* to WDW.... I mean, how do you think we keep Small World staffed?

No we don't stock IASW that way, we use the kids that are "accidently" left behind on the bus, monorail, boats and attractions to meet the staffing needs. :D:

[February]

No we don't stock IASW that way, we use the kids that are "accidently" left behind on the bus, monorail, boats and attractions to meet the staffing needs. :D:


You know I heard a bus driver use that line in a speil a few years ago and just about fell out of my seat LOL.

One of my other all time favorites: "Please gather your belongings. . .take all small children firmly by the hair-er, hand. . . lower your head and watch your step. But if you miss the step and hit your head, please, watch your language."

[Shorty82]

A tram conductor on my last trip said: Please lower your head and watch your step as you exit the tram. If you forget to lower your head please watch your language."

[GuestJockey]

One of my other all time favorites: "Please gather your belongings. . .take all small children firmly by the hair-er, hand. . . lower your head and watch your step. But if you miss the step and hit your head, please, watch your language."


That's an old standby from the skips! It ends with "for some reason there are children EVERYWHERE."

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

That's an old standby from the skips! It ends with "for some reason there are children EVERYWHERE."

YEAH!! We gotta do something about that!!! (fence in a parking lot, put a bunch of balls in there, like at a certain pizza chain, and throw the kids in!!!)

every once in a while throw in some candy bars and bottles of water!

(parents can reclaim their kids only after 6 hours, and proof they went to a park and had fun!! hehehehe)

[Tara_Lee3]

My mom tells me I've been to Disneyland. I was five at the time so my memories are understandably vague. I remember not being able to ride a roller coaster and riding Dumbo instead. And my clearest memory of the park was a Big Sign with a picture of a train on it. :train:

I couldn't really read, but Mom and Dad stood me in front of this sign and showed me the picture. Then they pointed to the train tracks in the ground and said.

"Now, honey, this sign says there is a train that runs around Disneyland. And It Only Watches Out For Kids. So, unless you want us to get run over by this train, You Have To Stay With Us." :eek:

I guess it worked. :p:

Now I'm 25 years old, living on my own, a productive member of society.... *grin* But I still love the Disney parks. It's a running joke between my mom and I. When I see even a picture of Cindy's castle I'll point and say, "hey mom there's my house." Or the pumpkin carriage, "hey mom there's my car."

[February]

You know, I hate to be a downer and I know that this thread has taken a lighthearted upswing again but I just had to say a couple more things before I bow out of it.

First of all- It has nagged at me ever since I read it and I just have to say, I just don't think the joke about abducted children being put to work in IASW is in any way funny. But to each their own, I know.

Secondly, how does someone who is not in law enforcement confirm for a certainty, really, that there has never been an abduction from WDW? Can you say the same about assaults on children, by fellow guests or otherwise? These things often go unreported- as in my experience because I was a kid and nobody talked about these things back then like they do now.

I am not meaning to pick a fight with anyone- but I got to thinking about it and I just wonder how you could really be sure that there aren't sealed court documents or something somewhere. I don't think anyone can.

I've seen too much in my life, I guess, to think that if you called up Orange County or the FBI that they'd be that forthcoming. If I asked them to tell me if there has ever been a documented abduction from WDW how could they say anything but "no." ? If they said yes, would they volunteer location, date, time? Do they volunteer that info about any crimes from purse snatching or what have you that happen on property? Nope! Because there is an image to uphold!

Again, I'm sorry, everybody, but this whole topic really got me down and thinking back again over what happened to me when I was a kid has made it important to me to get the thread back to the topic of kids getting lost and why people need to be sure they know where their kids are at all times.

If I've worn out my SGT welcome with these posts and by asking the above questions, I apologize and I'll go quietly. But this is a topic too close to my own heart to just sit and stew about it. It's not good for my health.

I don't doubt that the question was asked. I just doubt there is even an obligation on the part of law enforcement to be forthcoming with the truth.

Bru

[Zazu]

It has nagged at me ever since I read it and I just have to say, I just don't think the joke about abducted children being put to work in IASW is in any way funny.Perhaps it wasn't the right place for that joke. I'm now sorry I put it in there, but at the time I was just trying to lighten the mood.

Secondly, how does someone who is not in law enforcement confirm for a certainty, really, that there has never been an abduction from WDW?Several of us went to law enforcement and asked to see the records, others checked local newspaper files.

Can you say the same about assaults on children, by fellow guests or otherwise?No. Kids and adults get assaulted at WDW every day. There have been times when I wanted to intervene, but didn't have a baseball bat handy. That said, most assaults are by family members.

I am not meaning to pick a fight with anyone...... and I'm not taking it that way...
... but I got to thinking about it and I just wonder how you could really be sure that there aren't sealed court documents or something somewhere.Court documents can be sealed. It takes a *very* unusual situation to also purge the arrest records and the newspapers, both of which we searched. (Wombat, do you have an opinion about sealed records like this?)

I've seen too much in my life, I guess, to think that if you called up Orange County or the FBI that they'd be that forthcoming.Then you will have to remain unconvinced. Those are the best sources I know of. If you ever do find evidence of an abduction, please let us all know.

Do they volunteer that info about any crimes from purse snatching or what have you that happen on property? Nope! Because there is an image to uphold!Contrary to popular belief, the FBI and County Sheriff don't work for Mickey. The Orlando Sentinel *surely* isn't going to defend the Mouse after the events of the past few years.

I'm sorry, everybody, but this whole topic really got me down and thinking back again over what happened to me when I was a kid has made it important to me to get the thread back to the topic of kids getting lost and why people need to be sure they know where their kids are at all times.I think we're in agreement on this. Kids go wandering off from oblivious parents every day -- inside WDW and out -- and some come to harm. This is one of the reasons I'm always happy to see a toddler on a leash, as that's one less kid I have to worry about.

If I've worn out my SGT welcome with these posts and by asking the above questions, I apologize and I'll go quietly. But this is a topic too close to my own heart to just sit and stew about it. It's not good for my health.No problem here. You raise valid points and ask reasonable questions.

I don't doubt that the question was asked. I just doubt there is even an obligation on the part of law enforcement to be forthcoming with the truth.One agency, possibly. But two different agencies, plus the local newspaper? It would seem to require a pretty big conspiracy to keep all of them quiet, even if there were only one such incident.

But that takes nothing away from your advice that parents need to keep careful watch over their children.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

You know, I hate to be a downer and I know that this thread has taken a lighthearted upswing again but I just had to say a couple more things before I bow out of it.
I don't doubt that the question was asked. I just doubt there is even an obligation on the part of law enforcement to be forthcoming with the truth.

...REDACTED

Bru

I can answer with more than a passing knowledge, that any questions to law enforcement along those lines will not be answered, except with a "no comment" or "that information is unavailable" The reason is NOT a coverup, as many people will jump to that conclusion.

The reasons are many. First, the information is consider 'sensitive" in that by just saying if an incident took place, on a date and time, could possibly identify a victim. Something that is absoutely not going to be done. The right to privacy of the victim is the highest priority. So much so, that great lengths, in some cases, have been taken to guard their identity.

Second, Law enforcement does NOT want the bad guy to know what they know. Many times the suspect will hope that the victim will not tell, so they will watch the news to see if it was reported. If they think that it hasn't been, they just might get taken by suprise or try and commit another crime, often while being watched. They also do not want detailes of the crime out to the general public, as some times someone will come forward and "confess" to a crime that they did not commit. This can cause all kinds of problems in putting the case together on the real suspect. By keeping details confidential, the investigtor can actually eliminate suspects from the investigation.

Third, some of the criminals get a second thrill by reading about the crime or watch a news report about it. It helps them re-live the moment.

Also, once information is received by law enforcement and placed in the "system" (paper or electronic form) there are a large number of laws, federal, state and local, that make it illegal to disclose to anyone, other than law enforcement, without special permissions being given.

Thats why you always see a suspects lawyer making statements to the press extolling why his client is as pure as the driven snow, and law enforcement cannot comment.

I hope that answere some of your questions.

[February]

Thank you to both of you for your replies, gentlemen. I do appreciate all the info.

Taking a break for a little bit. See you all 'real soon'. . .

Bru

[Tara_Lee3]

so......

...anyone who works at DL...

Is there or has there ever been such a train warning sign? :o:

Or were my parents just coming up with another of their 'big ones' ?

[mechurchlady]

you are talk 1970's or 1980's. Sounds like Knott's Berry Farm. DLR trains run on the outside of the park except for the 3 bridges, 2 at main street station and one at toon town. Trying to think of when there might have been a train crossing. enjoy the memories and your loving parents.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

so......

...anyone who works at DL...

Is there or has there ever been such a train warning sign? :o:

Or were my parents just coming up with another of their 'big ones' ?

Could have been a little of both!!! I remember walking under the tracks at WDW?

but The train just circles good 'ol Disneyland! perhaps you also went to knotts. I remember taking the ride there, and we had to cross the tracks to get to a western town area, and later we crossed them again to get to another ride. but that was LONG ago, as I havn't been to knotts since 1993!!

(finally just gave up other parks and went with Disney all the time!!)

[felinefan]

The western town area you refer to is Ghost Town, the original part of the park. One-fourth of the old buildings are genuine, and came from the town of Calico, in San Bernardino County near Barstow. The train, the Calico Railroad, is a genuine 1881 Baldwin Consolidation C-19 2-8-0 narrow gauge train, originally from the Denver and Rio Grande Railroad in Colorado. It doesn't exactly go around the whole park, but it originates in Ghost Town, passes the Wilderness area, then passes between the the fence running along Western Avenue, makes a right turn to go along La Palma Blvd., turns right again at Fiesta Village, and back to the station in Ghost Town. There are crossings at Calico Square next to the depot, at Western between Wilderness and what used to be the Roaring 20's area--forget the name now--and another crossing at Fiesta Village.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

The western town area you refer to is Ghost Town, the original part of the park. One-fourth of the old buildings are genuine, and came from the town of Calico, in San Bernardino County near Barstow. The train, the Calico Railroad, is a genuine 1881 Baldwin Consolidation C-19 2-8-0 narrow gauge train, originally from the Denver and Rio Grande Railroad in Colorado. It doesn't exactly go around the whole park, but it originates in Ghost Town, passes the Wilderness area, then passes between the the fence running along Western Avenue, makes a right turn to go along La Palma Blvd., turns right again at Fiesta Village, and back to the station in Ghost Town. There are crossings at Calico Square next to the depot, at Western between Wilderness and what used to be the Roaring 20's area--forget the name now--and another crossing at Fiesta Village.

Jeez, they did a lot of work, bringing the buildings and stuff to knotts!!!

wonder if Disney will keep them when they take over! (hehehehe)

Its too bad, as another poster on SGT is talking about how the park has problems with CM's and managers.

Thats why wene we go to DLR we like to stay on property and visit all the attractions, and the shops and restaurants at DTD and so on, (its the CM'S!!!! that make it great!)(oh, and the food)(oh, and the attractions) oh, and the merchandise....

[dazyhill]

The Roaring 20s area in Knott's Berry Farm is now called Boardwalk.

As for shopping, we are one of the very few places where one can buy Snoopy and other "Peanuts"-related products year-round. Most of it you can't get anywhere else.

[Randy B]

I'm sorry, I never meant to dis you or to doubt what you reported. I know that bad things do happen everywhere, WDW included.

However, there are a lot of Internet rumors about kid snatching at the Parks, and it's nice for me to be able to say it's never happened. I will admit that sentence probably deserves a "yet" at the end.

And should probably include a "successful" in the middle. Bru saw an unsuccessful attempt which would not be listed with the police (even if it was reported) as an abduction or kidnapping. Those only list successfully completed acts.

Actually the lack of successful abductions should be attributed to the excellent CMs and watchful Security CMs who prevent a successful attempt and contribute to the overall security we all feel. Of course this does not mean that we, the guests, should leave all our security to the CMs. But when you add the CMs to our own personal efforts the result is no successful abductions at WDW.

Randy

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

And should probably include a "successful" in the middle. Bru saw an unsuccessful attempt which would not be listed with the police (even if it was reported) as an abduction or kidnapping. Those only list successfully completed acts.

Actually the lack of successful abductions should be attributed to the excellent CMs and watchful Security CMs who prevent a successful attempt and contribute to the overall security we all feel. Of course this does not mean that we, the guests, should leave all our security to the CMs. But when you add the CMs to our own personal efforts the result is no successful abductions at WDW.

Randy

Yeah, what he said! (plus..we gots Flying Bongos!)

[SWTexasBelle]

I tried the leashes, but son #2 kicked and screamed - so I have gone to plan #2. The strollers are your friend - my boys (5 and 6 now) are either holding a hand or in the stroller. At restrooms, my daughter (18) and I tag-team, so someone is watching the door while the other uses the restroom in the ladies' room. The family restrooms are the BEST - we're all contained in a locked room! When they were little, I would walk all the way to the Baby Care Centers so I could change them without worrying about the one not being changed running out the doors. I can't imagine anything worse than something happening to your children, so I am probably over-protective, but so be it. I have the boys wear POC dog tags with my cell phone number on them just in case somehow they go astray.

[February]

And should probably include a "successful" in the middle. Bru saw an unsuccessful attempt which would not be listed with the police (even if it was reported) as an abduction or kidnapping. Those only list successfully completed acts.

Actually the lack of successful abductions should be attributed to the excellent CMs and watchful Security CMs who prevent a successful attempt and contribute to the overall security we all feel. Of course this does not mean that we, the guests, should leave all our security to the CMs. But when you add the CMs to our own personal efforts the result is no successful abductions at WDW.

Randy


Just for the sake of the record, I did not witness the attempted abduction myself; another guest who was very upset about it told me in the ladies room, right after it happened. She was very shaken up and had just finished talking to security about it. So yeah at the end of the day I guess you'd have to call it 'hearsay'.

I wanted to post a warning too to parents about the 'family access' bathrooms.

On our last trip, my daughter and I were trying to get into the one at EPCOT by Canada right before Illuminations started. It is hard for me to deal with tiny 'regular' size stalls with my crutch and all and since I like to keep her close to me we usually just share the family bathroom.

Well, we waited and waited and waited for the 'occupied' sign to change. Nothing was happening. There are so few stalls in that particular location in the 'regular' ladies room (I think it's by a mcdonalds french fry stand?) the line was way long so we waited some more for the family room.

An angry lady comes up behind us and asks how long we've been waiting for the 'family bathroom' and I tell her at least 10 minutes. She marches up and bangs on the door! I was mortified thinking the person in there would be offended and think i did it since I was first in line so we backed away.

Well, turn my back and in a split second, the door flew open to the family bathroom. I am facing the other way, but I see the look on my daughter's face and wonder what's up.

In the meanwhile the woman who had been in line behind us rushes past and runs into the bathroom (she must have really needed it) but anyway, my daughter said "Huh. That's weird."

me: What's weird?

Daughter: Well, a lady came out of the bathroom but she wasn't alone.

Me: No?

Daughter: there was a man with her.

Me: You mean a man in a wheelchair, or was she in one? Someone who needed help to use the restroom?

Daughter; No, neither one was disabled. They just hurried off together, Mom , they were practically running.

I was FUMING.

I told a CM later that night that this is why major arenas have restroom attendants to let people into the family/handicapped access bathrooms with a key. People should NOT be tying up those facilities from those who need them when they need to just go back to their freaking hotel room if they're that. . .amorous. Besides, that behaviour is so out of line anywhere inside a disney park I just can't stand it. You'd get arrested anywhere else if you got caught- I hope Disney would do the same if they caught someone in the act.

You can't tell me they were simply using the facilities. Disney needs to post security near those restrooms especially after dark.

After that, it occurred to me how easy it would be for someone to pull anyone into one of those and commit a crime. I think that they need to really think about keeping surveillance on those facilities.

Bru

[Sarah Magdalene]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ... Bathroom Boffers!!!!

Sorry about the wait but that has to be funniest thing I had ever read on these boards!!!

[drcorey]

I tried the leashes, but son #2 kicked and screamed - so I have gone to plan #2. The strollers are your friend - my boys (5 and 6 now) are either holding a hand or in the stroller. At restrooms, my daughter (18) and I tag-team, so someone is watching the door while the other uses the restroom in the ladies' room. The family restrooms are the BEST - we're all contained in a locked room! When they were little, I would walk all the way to the Baby Care Centers so I could change them without worrying about the one not being changed running out the doors. I can't imagine anything worse than something happening to your children, so I am probably over-protective, but so be it. I have the boys wear POC dog tags with my cell phone number on them just in case somehow they go astray.

just have them chipped.

[Princess Susi]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ... Bathroom Boffers!!!!

Sorry about the wait but that has to be funniest thing I had ever read on these boards!!!

I guess when your hot, you're HOT!!!!!!!!!:twisted:
Bathroom Boffers! That is funny! LOL!

I am sorry you had to wait and it is nasty that people use the facilities for that, but how are they gonna stop them? They cannot put a camera IN the bathroom. I have a male friend with a condition that needs assistance. He is not in a chair, but needs help in the restroom and his girlfriend helps him. They do NOT use the restroom for any *funny business*, but someone might think that, if they saw the couple coming out of there. And it could not be further from the truth. He has said that people give him funny looks when they come out. But he truly needs the help. And it is nobody's business what is wrong with him.
So there are people who may use the family restroom and it may not look kosher to outsiders, but they have no idea that it is NOT what they think it is. The whole situation is at the disabilities board on another site. He asked about what he should do, because of the looks he and his girlfriend got.
Be careful about judging what those people MIGHT have been doing unless they really looked dishevelled and hot and sweaty! ;)
sues

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I guess when your hot, you're HOT!!!!!!!!!:twisted:
Bathroom Boffers! That is funny! LOL!

I am sorry you had to wait and it is nasty that people use the facilities for that, but how are they gonna stop them? They cannot put a camera IN the bathroom. I have a male friend with a condition that needs assistance. He is not in a chair, but needs help in the restroom and his girlfriend helps him. They do NOT use the restroom for any *funny business*, but someone might think that, if they saw the couple coming out of there. And it could not be further from the truth. He has said that people give him funny looks when they come out. But he truly needs the help. And it is nobody's business what is wrong with him.
So there are people who may use the family restroom and it may not look kosher to outsiders, but they have no idea that it is NOT what they think it is. The whole situation is at the disabilities board on another site. He asked about what he should do, because of the looks he and his girlfriend got.
Be careful about judging what those people MIGHT have been doing unless they really looked dishevelled and hot and sweaty! ;)
sues


Couldn't they use the sink and paper towels to make themselves Un-dishevelled? (shevelled?)

[hobie16]

Bathroom Boffers!!!!
Bathroom Boinkers
Restroom Rutting
Loo Lothario
Water Closet Whoopie
Head Humpers

[hobie16]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2120/2315907662_9146557a4b_o.jpg

[February]

I guess when your hot, you're HOT!!!!!!!!!:twisted:
Bathroom Boffers! That is funny! LOL!

I am sorry you had to wait and it is nasty that people use the facilities for that, but how are they gonna stop them? They cannot put a camera IN the bathroom. I have a male friend with a condition that needs assistance. He is not in a chair, but needs help in the restroom and his girlfriend helps him. They do NOT use the restroom for any *funny business*, but someone might think that, if they saw the couple coming out of there. And it could not be further from the truth. He has said that people give him funny looks when they come out. But he truly needs the help. And it is nobody's business what is wrong with him.
So there are people who may use the family restroom and it may not look kosher to outsiders, but they have no idea that it is NOT what they think it is. The whole situation is at the disabilities board on another site. He asked about what he should do, because of the looks he and his girlfriend got.
Be careful about judging what those people MIGHT have been doing unless they really looked dishevelled and hot and sweaty! ;)
sues

Be careful judging? I'm disabled. I do not judge people to try to determine disability by looking at them.

But as fast as the two of them disappeared there is NO way that they were disabled. Impossible. They ran off.

Yes, they can prevent it. Do you think they let people go into those restrooms to have sex at say, a major ballpark? No way. I have seen it they have keys and let people in and out of handicapped access family bathrooms.

Do I expect Disney to park people outside every one they have? Unrealistic. But something surely can be done to try to prevent misuse of those facilities.

You know, I don't think I fit in here as well as I thought I did. I don't get the responses these days.

And people were all pissy with me for saying that if I feel like kissing my husband in the park, I'd do it. But people having sex in the handicapped accessible bathrooms is funny. Huh.

I must have just graduated from SGT poster to SG, or maybe my skin isn't thick enough to really belong here. This thread has hurt me in ways I can't explain and I wouldn't expect anyone to understand.

Peace ya'll. I wish you endless days at the parks free from SG's like me- a disabled guest who would like to use the disabled guest bathrooms in the park without having to wait for people to finish having sex.

Take care, everyone.

[Sarah Magdalene]

New meaning to "Happiest Place on Earth!"

[Sarah Magdalene]

But people having sex in the handicapped accessible bathrooms is funny. Huh.

I must have just graduated from SGT poster to SG, or maybe my skin isn't thick enough to really belong here. This thread has hurt me in ways I can't explain and I wouldn't expect anyone to understand.




Of course it's funny to some of us but we also don't like it just as much as you do. We laugh at the obvious SGism at it all.

From being a member of many posting boards, all I do is just ignore a thread if I don't like it and post on my merry way elsewhere on the board. If you disagree, then just leave the thread. There are lots other posts that you obviously enjoy as you have many post counts, don't let one or two threads get to you.

[Shorty82]

I've read before on another board complaints of people who use the family restrooms to get their daughter into a princess dress or whatever for a character meal. From what I've read this is a big problem in the family restroom in the castle. A line up of people wanting to use it to just change clothes, and taking forever to do so, while there are disabled people who can't use a normal restroom waiting to use the restroom for its intended purpose.

[DisneyMom]

Don't go, Bru. I think we need you and others to educate us how it feels from your end...The subject of sex makes some people uncomfortable, so they might focus on the funny side of sex , not to mention that some of us (like me:rolleyes:) have to work on impulse control...I agree that if those people are having sex in a family restroom at Disney, it is weird and probably unsanitary,but not much anyone can do except maybe alert Security when someone seems to be taking too long in there..maybe they actually DO have a video camera outside but don't look at the tape until there is a concern.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I've read before on another board complaints of people who use the family restrooms to get their daughter into a princess dress or whatever for a character meal. From what I've read this is a big problem in the family restroom in the castle. A line up of people wanting to use it to just change clothes, and taking forever to do so, while there are disabled people who can't use a normal restroom waiting to use the restroom for its intended purpose.

Perhaps WDW should consider putting in "robing rooms" near these venues, so that they don't tie up the restrooms?

[Shorty82]

Perhaps WDW should consider putting in "robing rooms" near these venues, so that they don't tie up the restrooms?

That's my thought.

[felinefan]

Grumpy Pirate, the reason they have problems with managment and employees at Knott's is because the management are self-absorbed assholes who think they are above the law, and they keep hiring people who are completely incapale of doing the job, as well as barely train them. Check out www.kbfdrama.com for the lowdown.

Dazeyhill, thanks for reminding me, I was having a brain fart and couldn't come up with the current name. I think they should've left the Roaring 20s in, especially the Knott's Bear-y Tales ride; that was cool.

[disneyprincess1988]

Perhaps WDW should consider putting in "robing rooms" near these venues, so that they don't tie up the restrooms?

That is a great idea, especially since the weather here in the summer is unbearable sometimes and walking around all day in costumes like that isn't always a good idea. If they can put a Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique in Cinderella's Castle, then changing rooms are also a good idea.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

That is a great idea, especially since the weather here in the summer is unbearable sometimes and walking around all day in costumes like that isn't always a good idea. If they can put a Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique in Cinderella's Castle, then changing rooms are also a good idea.

I wondered about that. We were then in september and wearing shorts and light shirts, and fairly comfortable, even though we were in much more humid weather that we are used to, but its WDW!!! I can't imagine those kids being very comfortable in those dresses and costumes for very long!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Grumpy Pirate, the reason they have problems with managment and employees at Knott's is because the management are self-absorbed assholes who think they are above the law, and they keep hiring people who are completely incapale of doing the job, as well as barely train them. Check out www.kbfdrama.com for the lowdown.

Dazeyhill, thanks for reminding me, I was having a brain fart and couldn't come up with the current name. I think they should've left the Roaring 20s in, especially the Knott's Bear-y Tales ride; that was cool.

Man, after a few threads there, you get the impression that place is gonna implode soon! Thats too bad.

I have notice here, that the CM's from DLR or WDW may complain, but they still like working there, just maybe a bad procedure or supervisor...and they really want to fix it.

[Princess Susi]

Be careful judging? I'm disabled. I do not judge people to try to determine disability by looking at them.

But as fast as the two of them disappeared there is NO way that they were disabled. Impossible. They ran off.

Yes, they can prevent it. Do you think they let people go into those restrooms to have sex at say, a major ballpark? No way. I have seen it they have keys and let people in and out of handicapped access family bathrooms.

Do I expect Disney to park people outside every one they have? Unrealistic. But something surely can be done to try to prevent misuse of those facilities.

You know, I don't think I fit in here as well as I thought I did. I don't get the responses these days.

And people were all pissy with me for saying that if I feel like kissing my husband in the park, I'd do it. But people having sex in the handicapped accessible bathrooms is funny. Huh.

I must have just graduated from SGT poster to SG, or maybe my skin isn't thick enough to really belong here. This thread has hurt me in ways I can't explain and I wouldn't expect anyone to understand.

Peace ya'll. I wish you endless days at the parks free from SG's like me- a disabled guest who would like to use the disabled guest bathrooms in the park without having to wait for people to finish having sex.

Take care, everyone.

You cannot take everything on these threads so seriously. I use an ECV and Ralph just bought me my first wheelchair. So I have my own now, staring at me from the foot of the bed every morning. I KNOW what it is like to be disabled and have to wait for the disabled restroom. But there is not much one can do about the people who misuse the family restrooms. I don't know what could be done to stop the misuse.

Keys? What about my friend who needs assistance? Would they hesitate to give him and his girlfriend the key just because they were a couple going in there? Probably. They cannot allow one couple in and not another. But he NEEDS the help.

We laugh at SG's here. That is what the board is about. People having sex in a public restroom is an SG thing to do. It certainly is not acceptable in my eyes either, but I have to laugh at it and other SG tricks. If you let the things that SG's do get to you and make you angry, then you are just going to be unhappy all the time. This site is for CM's to let off steam. And those of us who are not CM's (but would LOVE to be) are here to support them.

I have to agree that the ignore button is very useful. If you don't like this thread, you should avoid it. But there are plenty of fun threads to read and post in.

You are well liked here and we will miss you if you don't stay. You just cannot let everything here get under your skin.

Also, I did not say that the couple who came out were NOT having sex. If they were, shame on them!!

I just gave an example of a person I know who has a DISABILITY of his own and needs assistance when he is in that restroom. THAT is what that restroom is for, yes? And he could easily be judged because he does go in with his girlfriend and it would probably raise some eyebrows.

I meant to say that none of us should be so fast to judge what someone may or may not be doing. I meant no insult to you. I am sorry if it came across that way.

I hope you decide to stay, because you have a lot of interesting stories and a unique take on things.
susi

[mechurchlady]

It would be nice to have a changing room for the costume parties but would that actually stop moms from using the restrooms. Doubt that.

There are many hidden disabilities and many CMs in parks so I will leave people having sex in the companion bathrooms to security. Maybe they were not having sex but were um um I dont know.

[Cheshire Figment]

One problem we see in the disABILITIES Forum is that, for example, there are only six companion restrooms in the Magic Kingdom. That means that for certain people there are only six toilets they can use in the entire park. One of these is in Cinderella Castle, which unfortunately, is misused.

Years ago they normally had that restroom locked, and you had to get a key from one of the people at the podium. I would like to see them go back to that; either seeing a person in a wheelchair (or with a "stroller as wheelchair" tag) or having a GAC indicating they have special needs.

I would see no problem with two adults going in together if one of them was in a wheelchair; then it would be fairly obvious that the person in the chair would (or might) require transfer assistance.

[Princess Susi]

But what about my friend who need assistance with his disability? It is not something people can see but it is a disability, believe me. It is serious! None of you here would want to be in his shoes. If he is NOT in a wheelchair, would he still have the ability to use the bathroom with a female friend? A male friend would just be...too weird helping him with it.
To give you an idea what he has to go through, he has to carry a backpack around to hold just the supplies he needs with his condition. He says that four hands are a LOT easier to deal with what he has to do then doing it by himself. Where would that leave him?
I ask bcause we WILL be coming to the Parks with him when we come in May, he lives in Orlando and loves Disney. His girlfriend broke up with him and so now I may be the one helping him. Of course if I am on my ECV (which has already been taken care of and reserved for me for the entire trip and this was done by the wonderful Platinum pkg co-ordinator at the Polynesian, Thanks you so much Jeffrey!) then my being on a ECV would be disability enough to get into that restroom and help him. But if I were not there and he needed to bring a friend along, what could he do? Would they allow couples in the restroom?
Just curious.:confused:
Susi

[mechurchlady]

Disney legally cannot question a guest on their disability unless the guest is getting a special priviledge such as the National Parks free admission thing.

A person could be physically fit but have mental limitations for example or be blind. A diabetic person may need help with the shot but be able to run a mile. There are people who look healthy that have colostomy bags for example. Two men going into a restroom does not look as weird as a woman an man to me. Also in California any two people may go into a restroom if one of them is diabled. yep a man and a woman can use either gender's restroom.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

But what about my friend who need assistance with his disability? It is not something people can see but it is a disability, believe me. It is serious! None of you here would want to be in his shoes. If he is NOT in a wheelchair, would he still have the ability to use the bathroom with a female friend? A male friend would just be...too weird helping him with it.
To give you an idea what he has to go through, he has to carry a backpack around to hold just the supplies he needs with his condition. He says that four hands are a LOT easier to deal with what he has to do then doing it by himself. Where would that leave him?
I ask bcause we WILL be coming to the Parks with him when we come in May, he lives in Orlando and loves Disney. His girlfriend broke up with him and so now I may be the one helping him. Of course if I am on my ECV (which has already been taken care of and reserved for me for the entire trip and this was done by the wonderful Platinum pkg co-ordinator at the Polynesian, Thanks you so much Jeffrey!) then my being on a ECV would be disability enough to get into that restroom and help him. But if I were not there and he needed to bring a friend along, what could he do? Would they allow couples in the restroom?
Just curious.:confused:
Susi

I believe that the ADA allows it, and I don't think anyone would say anything. Its like the couple in the bathroom, you can think whatever you want, but if you don't know for sure, I would reserve judgement. (but sometimes, things do seem funny!)

[acourtwdw]

Okay, I am going to confess to using the handicap/family restrooms. I don't have a disability. I have the bladder of a squirrel and usually cannot wait.
( I know TMI) If there is a line and those are open, I am going to use them. Sorry if that offends anyone, but so would the would not using them.

[DisneyMom]

Okay, I am going to confess to using the handicap/family restrooms. I don't have a disability. I have the bladder of a squirrel and usually cannot wait.
( I know TMI) If there is a line and those are open, I am going to use them. Sorry if that offends anyone, but so would the would not using them.

I believe "Squirrel Bladder" is a recognized disability by Doctors and the ADA:p:
So is "Canary Butt".......Don't Ask!:eek:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I believe "Squirrel Bladder" is a recognized disability by Doctors and the ADA:p:
So is "Canary Butt".......Don't Ask!:eek:

Does that have something to do with talking alot, when you should be running?

or some other affliction?

[DisneyMom]

Does that have something to do with talking alot, when you should be running?

or some other affliction?

Ummmmm, it is a term I used to describe a patient who couldn't tolerate......
(Medical procedure described ahead).....













DISIMPACTION!:eek:
YOU ASKED!:rolleyes::p::D:

[hobie16]

DISIMPACTION!:eek:
YOU ASKED!:rolleyes::p::D:
That sounds almost as painful as a guy who's getting divorced and has his genitals removed through his wallet.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

That sounds almost as painful as a guy who's getting divorced and has his genitals removed through his wallet.

Isn't that a normal procedure for a divorce?

[Randy B]

Isn't that a normal procedure for a divorce?

Well, either removal through the wallet or the anal orifice. Depending on the amount of wallet contents there are prior to the divorce. Either way they are removed.

Randy

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Well, either removal through the wallet or the anal orifice. Depending on the amount of wallet contents there are prior to the divorce. Either way they are removed.

Randy

Plus a lot of Future ex-wives provide great information to law enforcement about things!!

[hobie16]

Plus a lot of Future ex-wives provide great information to law enforcement about things!!
Future ex-anythings. I knew a girl that had been dating a minor dope dealer. She loaned him some money and, after they broke up, wanted it repaid. He kept shining her on and she kept waiting until she found out he bought his new babe a horse.

She told me to watch the papers for a bust that would happen in the parking lot of a well known electronics company. Sure enough, a week later there was a major bust. The supplier happened to be on his weekly route and the ex happened to be his first stop. Lotsa jail time!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Future ex-anythings. I knew a girl that had been dating a minor dope dealer. She loaned him some money and, after they broke up, wanted it repaid. He kept shining her on and she kept waiting until she found out he bought his new babe a horse.

She told me to watch the papers for a bust that would happen in the parking lot of a well known electronics company. Sure enough, a week later there was a major bust. The supplier happened to be on his weekly route and the ex happened to be his first stop. Lotsa jail time!

A frend of the family is a divorce attorney, some of the info he gets he has to pass on to law enforcement. Woooo, the IRS must love them!!!