No Leaning on the Rails, For Goodness's Sake

[glendalais]

This one just takes the cake, IMO.

Anyway, this guy was leaning on the rails while holding a stroller. Of course, I tell him to get off the bloody thing before something happens.

I get rotated to another position, and, in good SG fashion, he goes back to leaning.

Five minutes later, I hear a yell and see the guy tripping. Even worse the stroller launches and the girl inside goes flying, landing on the ground. Thankfully, she didn't hurt herelf, but it could have been much worse.

Idiots. I tell you, idiots.

[Kwahati]

I'm assuming you didn't point and laugh.....but you probably should have. :D:

[glendalais]

I'm assuming you didn't point and laugh.....but you probably should have. :D:

Actually, you won't belive how hard I had to resist saying "I told you so...", lol.

And truth be told, the guy treated the whole thing like it was an everyday occurence o-O. Heck, we had to force him to take ice for her head.

[Kwahati]

And truth be told, the guy treated the whole thing like it was an everyday occurence o-O. Heck, we had to force him to take ice for her head.

Oh crap! The SG's are evolving! They've become impervious to pain! Do you know how dangerous this could be for us all? Not only are they idiots, they're idiots who are unstoppable! :eek: [Insert Terminator 2 theme song here.]

[JugglingFreak]

I witnessed a similar thing at DisneyWorld this past summer. We were in line at Splash Mountain and the guy in front of us was paying no attention to his kid behind him who was sitting on the chain/ropes. A CM warned him twice, heid tell the kid to stop then pay no further attention. Well, the kid fell and hit his head so hard on the concrete that I could feel the vibration in my shoes.

SG picks kid up and tells him to stop crying or they wouldn't be able to ride.. and also, don't tell mom..

The only good thing I could think is maybe the kid learned why you shouldn't sit on the rails/ropes/chains... But probably not.

[ktulu]

I was in line for Finding Nemo. Two CM's are watching the line, a kid does something causing it's stroller to fall back, I hear one of the CM's go "nice!"

I laughed after I saw no one was hurt.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I witnessed a similar thing at DisneyWorld this past summer. We were in line at Splash Mountain and the guy in front of us was paying no attention to his kid behind him who was sitting on the chain/ropes. A CM warned him twice, heid tell the kid to stop then pay no further attention. Well, the kid fell and hit his head so hard on the concrete that I could feel the vibration in my shoes.

SG picks kid up and tells him to stop crying or they wouldn't be able to ride.. and also, don't tell mom..

The only good thing I could think is maybe the kid learned why you shouldn't sit on the rails/ropes/chains... But probably not.

And thus..the great circle of life for an SG is started all over again...

[GuestJockey]

LOL...I love it. I've seen guests come into City Hall to complain that the rails broke and they're going to get a lawyer. They say they aren't injured enough to even need to go to first aid for ice (we asked more than the required 3 times) but it WAS somehow OUR fault that they sat on the rail, were asked to get off the rail, ignored the CM, then it broke and they fell on their arses and this was such a big deal that they were threatening lawsuits. Serves 'em right, glad the little girl was OK though - I hate to see SGs get their kids into bad situations.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

LOL...I love it. I've seen guests come into City Hall to complain that the rails broke and they're going to get a lawyer. They say they aren't injured enough to even need to go to first aid for ice (we asked more than the required 3 times) but it WAS somehow OUR fault that they sat on the rail, were asked to get off the rail, ignored the CM, then it broke and they fell on their arses and this was such a big deal that they were threatening lawsuits. Serves 'em right, glad the little girl was OK though - I hate to see SGs get their kids into bad situations.

When they do that, why don't they throw them out for being stupid and not listening to the CM's that only had their safety in mind when the told them NOT to set or lean on the rails!! Duhhhh!

[darph nader]

When they do that, why don't they throw them out for being stupid and not listening to the CM's that only had their safety in mind when the told them NOT to set or lean on the rails!! Duhhhh!

Too bad the CMs can't toss them out. Of course it's all the CMs fault because they didn't tell them '25' times with a gun to their heads. If they had,the SGs would have 'bitched' that their day was ruined,"I did'nt get a chance to hurt/kill myself,and sue the shit out of you for my own 'stupidity'".:mad:

[glendalais]

I am such a hypocrite, lol. I was waiting for the bus back to K-Lot today, when I realized that I was sitting and rocking on one of those chains at the Harbor Pointe bus stop....:eek::rolleyes::p:.

Bad glendalais. Bad! :twisted:

Also, because of this, I've changed my Greeter spiel to include a warning not to sit, swing or hang from the rails. The result of this look out for the guest's safety, I had some guy accuse me of bad show and of ruining the magic by pointing it out ("it brings the outside world into Disneyland", or something to that effect).

How in the heck would having to bring in an Ambulance into the middle of Tomorrowland to attempt to save the life of a child who's gone and broken or cracked open something on the hard floor would be good, magic-enhancing, show?

Again, idiots, I tell you. Idiots.

[Big Wallaby]

Oh crap! The SG's are evolving! They've become impervious to pain! Do you know how dangerous this could be for us all? Not only are they idiots, they're idiots who are unstoppable! :eek: [Insert Terminator 2 theme song here.]I need to make a poster for that... be back in a bit.

When they do that, why don't they throw them out for being stupid and not listening to the CM's that only had their safety in mind when the told them NOT to set or lean on the rails!! Duhhhh!Hey, if our colorful little cards starring Timon and Pumbaa saying "Stay on your feet, they're not seats!" that we pass out to guests don't convince 'em, I don't know what will other than experience. Cold, hard experience, up close and personal with that slab of concrete under them.

Grr...

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I need to make a poster for that... be back in a bit.

Hey, if our colorful little cards starring Timon and Pumbaa saying "Stay on your feet, they're not seats!" that we pass out to guests don't convince 'em, I don't know what will other than experience. Cold, hard experience, up close and personal with that slab of concrete under them.

Grr...

Was it Mark Twain that said "Common sense isn't (common)"?

I guess a head crack is the best techer sometimes! I remember in school when we had the metal chain swing sets, the told us to not go so high, it only took a fall once, to make you remember not to do it!!

I really do wich WDW and DLR would adopt a more ummmm "Parental" attitude with some of thes SG's: "What?, Your kid fell, while you were watching? thats kind of dumb on your part, wouldn't you say? I think we are going to sue YOU for disrupting ALL THE OTHER GUESTS that you ruined the day for, by being a bad parent!!

(hehehe) I can dream....

[Kwahati]

Was it Mark Twain that said "Common sense isn't (common)"?

Nah, that was Samuel Clemens. ;)

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Nah, that was Samuel Clemens. ;)


Or Robert Heinlein!!

[AlpineDL]

Personally I've had more actual incidents with kids getting clotheslined by extended queue ropes than people sitting on stuff. I like to call them "Little Timmy" incidents. It just fits. :)

NO LITTLE TIMMY, THAT'S NOT A JUMPROPE!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Personally I've had more actual incidents with kids getting clotheslined by extended queue ropes than people sitting on stuff. I like to call them "Little Timmy" incidents. It just fits. :)

NO LITTLE TIMMY, THAT'S NOT A JUMPROPE!

EVERYONE? ...Say it together: "Were gonna need another Timmy!!"

[felinefan]

Any attorney that argues a case for a SG that hurt themselves despite warnings from concerned CMs needs to be disbarred. I like the idea of suing the guests for being stupid enough. I had a few run-ins with people who let their kids do dangerous things, and yell at me saying "They're just kids! Leave them alone!" Geez when I was growing up, my parents made very sure we didn't do anything stupid when we went out. Too bad when kids clothesline themselves they don't do it where it would be most appropriate--you know, keep their stupidity out of the gene pool....;)

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

No, they just lose in court, if they lose enough, they need to find a better line of civil jusrisprudence!

[Cheshire Figment]

No, they just lose in court, if they lose enough, they need to find a better line of civil jurisprudence!
What the US should do is adopt the British concept for civil lawsuits. In most circumstances the losing side pays the legal expenses of the prevailing side.

Add that if an attorney takes the case on a contingent fee basis, the lawyer is responsible for the same percentage of the legal fees as he would have been eligible for earning if her side had prevailed.

(I recently had reason to inquire about the possibility of a medical malpractice lawsuit (and contacted a lawyer recommended by a Judge). He said my chances of winning anything were so slim that he would take it on a "time and expenses" basis only.)

[DisneyMom]

EVERYONE? ...Say it together: "Were gonna need another Timmy!!"

I nominate the name "Timmy" as the Official SGT generic male child SG name...
ie: This Heely Brat was skating thru my medical clinic. So I tell darling "Timmy"
about 3 times to please stop as he has no helmet and our Doctor is going home soon and won't be able to stich his head.....

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I nominate the name "Timmy" as the Official SGT generic male child SG name...
ie: This Heely Brat was skating thru my medical clinic. So I tell darling "Timmy"
about 3 times to please stop as he has no helmet and our Doctor is going home soon and won't be able to stich his head.....

Yeah!!! I second that!! (what about a generic Female SG kid name?)

[DisneyMom]

Yeah!!! I second that!! (what about a generic Female SG kid name?)

Britney?Lindsey?Paris?Nicole?Jamie Lynn?:p:

[Alyssa3467]

Tammy? :p:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Britney?Lindsey?Paris?Nicole?Jamie Lynn?:p:

I would go with paris, the apaimey of what moms want their daughters to aspire too!

[Big Wallaby]

Third vote for "Timmy." It's now official.

And I like Jamie Lynn for girls.

Kinda sad to think that in their family, Britney was the good kid! :eek:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Third vote for "Timmy." It's now official.

And I like Jamie Lynn for girls.

Kinda sad to think that in their family, Britney was the good kid! :eek:

But for an "example" girls name, it should be one word, like "Timmy"

How about Debbie (Debbie Downer!)

[vixen101485]

or as in "Debbie Does Dallas" Obviously Debbie has some issues so is the perfect choice. LOL

[Big Wallaby]

Vixen, good to see you back! Did you get your computer fixed?

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

or as in "Debbie Does Dallas" Obviously Debbie has some issues so is the perfect choice. LOL

Noooooo but good segway to porn!!

I was thinking of Debbie Downer of SNL fame!!

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Tammy? :p:

I second "Tammy"!

[hobie16]

The Timmy and Tammy Show
Coming Soon To An Attraction Near You

[Ms. Matterhorn]

My fellow CM's and I used to love to do this:
Timmy or Tammy is pitching a fit or something, and Mom says, "If you do that again, we're going home", so we'd wait till they passed by us again in the queue and say, "He's doing it again!"

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

O.K, I'll third (or fourth?) Tammy, that way its eaiser to remember!!!

[Whazzup]

Another vote for Timmy and Tammy. Tammy isn't such a common name anymore so we're less liable to offend a guest who's not being stupid, as opposed to Debbie which is a more common name.

[ktulu]

Another vote for Timmy and Tammy. Tammy isn't such a common name anymore so we're less liable to offend a guest who's not being stupid, as opposed to Debbie which is a more common name.

Who cares if someone with a similiar name is offended, that's their problem.

Otherwise, we might as well call them something like tuoafasdfoqw and otadnfoqdfewqior.

[Whazzup]

Who cares if someone with a similiar name is offended, that's their problem.

Otherwise, we might as well call them something like tuoafasdfoqw and otadnfoqdfewqior.

Okay, I concede that point. I was just trying to avoid offending any Debbies we might have on the SGT board. But you're right, we'd have to come up with something unpronounceable (see quote above) to keep from offending somebody out there. And anyone who comes to this board knows there's a good chance they will be offended at some point or other, and we keep on coming back, don't we, 'cause we love it!

[Shorty82]

Okay, I concede that point. I was just trying to avoid offending any Debbies we might have on the SGT board. But you're right, we'd have to come up with something unpronounceable (see quote above) to keep from offending somebody out there. And anyone who comes to this board knows there's a good chance they will be offended at some point or other, and we keep on coming back, don't we, 'cause we love it!

Those unpronounceable names offend me! I'm also offended by the accusation that there's a good chance I'll be offended coming here! :)

[Alyssa3467]

I just remembered that I used to work with a Lead named Tammy, who as far as I know has an inactive account on this board. :o:

It was just the first name I thought of that was feminine and similar to Timmy...

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Those unpronounceable names offend me! I'm also offended by the accusation that there's a good chance I'll be offended coming here! :)

Hmm, you are offended by something you cannot speak....how odd!!

[Big Wallaby]

I, too, have a lead named Tammy who seems really cool. So I might have to put an asterisk after every mentioning of a Tammy* and a footnote at the bottom:

*This is not in any reference to the lead at KSR by the same name, as I do, in fact, think she's pretty cool (and she's from my home state!).

[Kwahati]

I, too, have a lead named Tammy who seems really cool...

Interestingly, people named Tammy seem to have a knack for making it to middle-management. I work with a woman named Tammy who is in charge of Tier 1 help desk (phone answerers). She's not really *my* lead as I'm not tier 1, but she's a boss. And she's cool as hell too. I'm kinda the bane of her existence, but I keep her laughing and we have fun at work.

At the same time, I could give a rodent's patootie about the potential for offending anyone. If people want to be offended over generic name use, good for them. Clearly they don't understand the point of these forums...brevity is the soul of wit [Shakespeare] and generic names help out with that.

Except Shorty. I hope he's offended. This entire post is meant to offend him! ;)

[hhsrat]

I, too, have a lead named Tammy who seems really cool. So I might have to put an asterisk after every mentioning of a Tammy* and a footnote at the bottom:



She is. And her brother too.

(side note: here on this coast, we're coordinators, not leads ... same basic concept though)

[vixen101485]

Vixen, good to see you back! Did you get your computer fixed?

Thanks and no. Just using a loaner for a while since I was going thru major withdrawl. I wanna keep this one tho, it is better then ours. LOL

HMMMM....an odd, easily remembered name that wont offend someone........???????????????? Donnie suggested BETTY or I have a better one Beatrice. Please dont tell me you all know someone named that. I suggest this in "honor" of my mother since she is the epitome of a female SG.

[hobie16]

Fred is the pond scum name used by bicyclists as in, "What a Fred!"

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Fred is the pond scum name used by bicyclists as in, "What a Fred!"

Borrow from Star Trek: Herbert! (herberta?)

[AlpineDL]

Bessie-May or Betsy tends to be my female equivalent personally. Tammy definitely has quite a ring though, I think it just might slip into general use when it comes training time again. :clap:

[Cranbiz]

Tammy is perfect.

My DW has a sister named Tammy and she is the most perfect ungrateful SG that you will ever maat. We call her the "anti tam".

In fact, we have a picture of all of DW's siblings and there is a postit note over her picture and it's been there for years.

[vixen101485]

In fact, we have a picture of all of DW's siblings and there is a postit note over her picture and it's been there for years.

LOL...lots easier then cutting her out of the pics.

[hobie16]

In fact, we have a picture of all of DW's siblings and there is a postit note over her picture and it's been there for years.
I wish I could do that with my mother-in-law. :D:

[Big Wallaby]

I think Tammy is great, it goes well with Timmy. I don't think the Tammy I know would be offended.

[hobie16]

I think Tammy is great, it goes well with Timmy. I don't think the Tammy I know would be offended.Maybe if it's pronounced differently. Taamaaaaaaaaaaay!

[DisneyMom]

Sounds like "Timmy and Tammy" win! Hahaha, one of friends from High School is named Tammy:p:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Maybe if it's pronounced differently. Taamaaaaaaaaaaay!

With a South Park-esque type of drawl?

[mechurchlady]

Another vote for Timmy and Tammy. Tammy isn't such a common name anymore so we're less liable to offend a guest who's not being stupid, as opposed to Debbie which is a more common name.

I agree, less offensive to say Tammy as that is a 1950's type name.
Timmy and Tammy please dearest sweeties get off the rail.
Nice Ring

Merry Christmas
Happy New Year
Laurie

[Whazzup]

Hi Churchy,
Glad to see you back with us. :)

[mechurchlady]

Hi Churchy,
Glad to see you back with us. :)

I never left you but my friends left me.

[Kwahati]

I would leave, but I'd probably get lost... Lost in thought, lost in translation, lost just off I-95... The possibilities are endless and scary, so I'll just stay right here instead. :D:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I would leave, but I'd probably get lost... Lost in thought, lost in translation, lost just off I-95... The possibilities are endless and scary, so I'll just stay right here instead. :D:

Hmm I-95 I understand, translation or transition?

[Kwahati]

Hmm I-95 I understand, translation or transition?

I dunno, transition and translation are both pretty scary. Titanium and other transition metals do scare the crap out of me, but you don't know real terror until you have your first dream in a foreign language! ;)

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I dunno, transition and translation are both pretty scary. Titanium and other transition metals do scare the crap out of me, but you don't know real terror until you have your first dream in a foreign language! ;)

Hmm, in language school, they always SAID you had to think in the language to fully comprehend it!! Dream it in...NEW angle on me!!

[Randy B]

I dunno, transition and translation are both pretty scary. Titanium and other transition metals do scare the crap out of me, but you don't know real terror until you have your first dream in a foreign language! ;)

Not very restful when you spend the entire night saying "Huh?" and "What?".

Randy

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Not very restful when you spend the entire night saying "Huh?" and "What?".

Randy

Glad you asked that, I was wondering about that....

hehehehe

[Terrytunes]

"Timmy" and "Tammy" start sitting on the chains/ropes before they even enter the park. They start at the ticket booths. Parents are standing right next to them, completely oblivious until you politely tell the children, "Sweetie, don't sit on the chains." And hey, half of the time it's adults and mostly teenagers. If it's somone really going to hurt themselves we stand up on our stools, loudly, yet politely through our Mickey shaped window cutout, ask them to please get off the chains. They little ones look genuinely guilty and try to hide their faces from you.
Once I saw one young boy (about 12, old enough to know) jumping the chains and tripping. When the mother caught up with him, he was still rubbing his arm, she slapped him on the back of the head and I could lip read, "See what happens?!" I had our breaker go out and ask him if he was o.k. He was more embarrassed than hurt. Bozo!!
Terrytunes

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

"Timmy" and "Tammy" start sitting on the chains/ropes before they even enter the park. They start at the ticket booths. Parents are standing right next to them, completely oblivious until you politely tell the children, "Sweetie, don't sit on the chains." And hey, half of the time it's adults and mostly teenagers. If it's somone really going to hurt themselves we stand up on our stools, loudly, yet politely through our Mickey shaped window cutout, ask them to please get off the chains. They little ones look genuinely guilty and try to hide their faces from you.
Once I saw one young boy (about 12, old enough to know) jumping the chains and tripping. When the mother caught up with him, he was still rubbing his arm, she slapped him on the back of the head and I could lip read, "See what happens?!" I had our breaker go out and ask him if he was o.k. He was more embarrassed than hurt. Bozo!!
Terrytunes


Ya shoulda gave the mom a prize for trying to prevent a kid from becoming an SG!!

[AlpineDL]

A lot of DL areas are getting easy-breakaway magnetic clipped chains in emergency exit spots, including one of my locations recently. I haven't gotten to witness it yet, but some pretty hilarious stories have already come up... or fallen straight down so to speak. :D:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

A lot of DL areas are getting easy-breakaway magnetic clipped chains in emergency exit spots, including one of my locations recently. I haven't gotten to witness it yet, but some pretty hilarious stories have already come up... or fallen straight down so to speak. :D:

I have seen those at some airports, a smart move, a little kid could't "closeline" himself and leave the business open for suits!

[hobie16]

A lot of DL areas are getting easy-breakaway magnetic clipped chains in emergency exit spots, including one of my locations recently. I haven't gotten to witness it yet, but some pretty hilarious stories have already come up... or fallen straight down so to speak. :D:
Instead of easy breakaway magnets, strong electromagnets should be used. That way the rope or chain would hold Timmy/Tammy until a CM hit a button that shut off the magnet dropping said offender on his/her butt. :twisted:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Instead of easy breakaway magnets, strong electromagnets should be used. That way the rope or chain would hold Timmy/Tammy until a CM hit a button that shut off the magnet dropping said offender on his/her butt. :twisted:

See!! Even better, you need to start marketing this kind of stuff under the "SGT" brand!!

[mechurchlady]

Instead of easy breakaway magnets, strong electromagnets should be used. That way the rope or chain would hold Timmy/Tammy until a CM hit a button that shut off the magnet dropping said offender on his/her butt. :twisted:

I like that idea Hobie

[Big Wallaby]

When I see a kid or adult on the chains, I come up to them, and usually say, "Just so you know, those chains aren't as strong as they look, and I'd hate to see you fall." They usually spring up, and it's not an issue again.

Amazing what getting yourself on the guests' side of the issue will do for you.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

When I see a kid or adult on the chains, I come up to them, and usually say, "Just so you know, those chains aren't as strong as they look, and I'd hate to see you fall." They usually spring up, and it's not an issue again.

Amazing what getting yourself on the guests' side of the issue will do for you.

yeah, but the SG's will ignore even the nicest CM!! And then complain when you tell them something to protect them from harm!

[Rob562]

A lot of DL areas are getting easy-breakaway magnetic clipped chains in emergency exit spots, including one of my locations recently. I haven't gotten to witness it yet, but some pretty hilarious stories have already come up... or fallen straight down so to speak. :D:


Yes, but when a SG "breaks" the chain apart, they never seem to put it back together again... I've made it a game while in the Soarin' queue in Epcot to see how long it takes before I hear the unmistakable "ka-clink-clink" of the chains breaking apart. Happens at least once every time.
(I think I've heard the chains three times in one wait, actually. Which means that two people actually DID put the magnets back together again...only to have it broken apart by someone else when the line moved)

And I can't be the only one who fixes the broken chains they see when they're visiting the parks... Or am I?

-Rob

[Randy B]

Instead of easy breakaway magnets, strong electromagnets should be used. That way the rope or chain would hold Timmy/Tammy until a CM hit a button that shut off the magnet dropping said offender on his/her butt. :twisted:

If a button push is involved you could also add the "feature" of the chain connected to an electric fence box. Press button and timmy gets dumped on his....the ground while the chain tickles him with pulses of high voltage low current zaps. :D:

Actually the more I think of it there are lots of places this fence charger could be used. A wire mesh just under the soil surface of a planter (that is electrically insulated from the earth) attached to a fence charger would teach the Pee-in-the-planter folks why those of us in the mid west know to closely inspect the weeds you are about to water. (remember, electric current causes muscles to contract and so once started, you can't stop.:eek:)

Randy :twisted:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Yes, but when a SG "breaks" the chain apart, they never seem to put it back together again... I've made it a game while in the Soarin' queue in Epcot to see how long it takes before I hear the unmistakable "ka-clink-clink" of the chains breaking apart. Happens at least once every time.
(I think I've heard the chains three times in one wait, actually. Which means that two people actually DID put the magnets back together again...only to have it broken apart by someone else when the line moved)

(And I can't be the only one who fixes the broken chains they see when they're visiting the parks...)

-Rob

Unless its little SG's who have "discovered" a new game!! and of course mom and dad will not correct timmy or tammy for fear of giving them a complex!!

[felinefan]

As to the electric chains--forget about tickling them, where that would tickle them would cause, ahem, shall we say, a "protein spill" and perhaps both sexes making it a real game getting their jollies on the electric chain.:eek::o:

I say, give 'em a jolt in the butt that they'll never forget, and not want to repeat! :shock: Fry 'em. I say1 Get 'em outta the gene pool!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

As to the electric chains--forget about tickling them, where that would tickle them would cause, ahem, shall we say, a "protein spill" and perhaps both sexes making it a real game getting their jollies on the electric chain.:eek::o:

I say, give 'em a jolt in the butt that they'll never forget, and not want to repeat! :shock: Fry 'em. I say1 Get 'em outta the gene pool!

Or you could always do a remake of "The House of Wax, and stock up IASW!!

[Randy B]

As to the electric chains--forget about tickling them, where that would tickle them would cause, ahem, shall we say, a "protein spill" and perhaps both sexes making it a real game getting their jollies on the electric chain.:eek::o:

I say, give 'em a jolt in the butt that they'll never forget, and not want to repeat! :shock: Fry 'em. I say1 Get 'em outta the gene pool!

You obviously have never come in contact with an electric livestock fence. It may be referred to as "tickling" but it is a tiny bit more entertaining than that. A casual brush can feel like a casual brush against a branding iron (but no burn mark). And it is a pulsing zap, about 2 pulses per second. Anyone who "gets jollies" from such a zap is WAY beyond enjoying anything that Disney would offer.

Randy

[Princess Susi]

I am such a hypocrite, lol. I was waiting for the bus back to K-Lot today, when I realized that I was sitting and rocking on one of those chains at the Harbor Pointe bus stop....:eek::rolleyes::p:.

Bad glendalais. Bad! :twisted:

Also, because of this, I've changed my Greeter spiel to include a warning not to sit, swing or hang from the rails. The result of this look out for the guest's safety, I had some guy accuse me of bad show and of ruining the magic by pointing it out ("it brings the outside world into Disneyland", or something to that effect).

How in the heck would having to bring in an Ambulance into the middle of Tomorrowland to attempt to save the life of a child who's gone and broken or cracked open something on the hard floor would be good, magic-enhancing, show?

Again, idiots, I tell you. Idiots.

I really don't get it. Is stupidity on the rise or are these people coming out of the woodwork because they see other lawsuits and think they will win big bucks from Disney's deep pockets? I NEVER am thinking about ways to make money off of the venue I am at, whether it be Disneyland, a grocery store or a skating rink. I believe safety should be first in everyone's, including the guest's minds. I know that Traditions puts Safety at the top of the list right before Courtesy, Show and Efficiency and it is as it should be. If you see some SG taking a header into the Sub Lagoon, then Safety should be the first thing to consider, not *On with the Show* And by telling the SGs that it is dangerous to lean, sit, spin and stand on their head like Criss Angel on the railings or chains is not bad show, it is the first thing EVERY business should be looking out for, for it's patrons. People will find ANY reason to get money, greed begets bad behavior and it seems they are going to the Parks looking for ways to make money from Disney, Not all SGs, just that special breed of SG that thinks this is their ticket out of the Trailer Park. The other SGs just make for good stories and bad shifts....:mad:
I thank every CM for giving me a safety spiel, they are trying to keep me in one piece, unbleeding and alive.:)
Take care and try to laugh it off, I am usually the first person you hear laughing at the poor sap who fell on his/her poor, wittle head.:twisted:
SusiSlicker

p.s. as far as being a hypocrite, we all have those little moments. When you get to be my age, you can call them Senior Moments! ;)

[Princess Susi]

Hey, if our colorful little cards starring Timon and Pumbaa saying "Stay on your feet, they're not seats!" that we pass out to guests don't convince 'em, I don't know what will other than experience. Cold, hard experience, up close and personal with that slab of concrete under them.

Grr...

Oooooooh, I have that entire Safety First pin set! It is soooooooooo cool! I love Pumbaa,:pumbaa: He is probably one of my all time favorite Disney characters. Warthogs....sigh......gotta love em....:hysteria: And he eats worms......:D:

AND, when we went to the Festival of the Lion King, we were seated in Pumbaa's section the first time we went.:D: Talk about luck! My fave character from The Lion King!:p:
susi*does NOT eat worms*slicker:p:
Zazu: we ned more Pumbaa smilies! This one is cute, but does not show the big, beautiful warthog in all his humongus glory!!!!!

[Princess Susi]

Who cares if someone with a similiar name is offended, that's their problem.

Otherwise, we might as well call them something like tuoafasdfoqw and otadnfoqdfewqior.

Hey, that is my nephew and niece you are talking about!:twisted: :hysteria:
Watch it bub!;) LOLOLOLOL
susi-Q

[Cheshire Figment]

Several years ago Judy had a very embarrassing moment at the Frontierland Train Station because of leaning on the railing. She managed somehow to get her knee through the space between the 4x4 vertical posts and could not get it back out.

She, I and the CM at the station worked for several minutes manipulating her leg but could not get the knee back to the Guest side of the railing. Finally the CM called RCES and they sent a squad with a Jaws of Life; put the JoL down at the bottom of the posts and it then pushed them apart and she was able to get her leg out.

I wonder what the maintenance people thought of when they had to put the fencing back together.

Of course Judy was very careful about leaning on fences in the future.

[Princess Susi]

Several years ago Judy had a very embarrassing moment at the Frontierland Train Station because of leaning on the railing. She managed somehow to get her knee through the space between the 4x4 vertical posts and could not get it back out.

She, I and the CM at the station worked for several minutes manipulating her leg but could not get the knee back to the Guest side of the railing. Finally the CM called RCES and they sent a squad with a Jaws of Life; put the JoL down at the bottom of the posts and it then pushed them apart and she was able to get her leg out.

I wonder what the maintenance people thought of when they had to put the fencing back together.

Of course Judy was very careful about leaning on fences in the future.

Great Googly Moogly, THAT had to be embarassing.:eek::o: THAT is something I would do as well. Things like that happen to me all the time. Thankfully not yet at a Disney Park, just in my sad little life.:p:
I can only imagine the sound of thousands of cameras all clicking at once while that was happening. The Jaws of Life saving a woman's leg are NOT something you see everyday at Disney!:p:
How in the world did she get her leg in there in the first place? Inquiring minds want to know, so *I* can avoid doing it myself and having them have to go through the same thing again for me! :hysteria:

Oh man, the vision in my head is so sweet...LOLOLOLOLOLOL!:twisted:

susi*yes, I do do stupid stuff*slicker

[Big Wallaby]

yeah, but the SG's will ignore even the nicest CM!! And then complain when you tell them something to protect them from harm!Well, again, that's the one in a million.

At my weight, I don't lean on chains, but I have been in the queue at Soarin' and broken the magnetic bond. I put it back together and wondered why they don't have that everywhere there's a chain queue.

[hobie16]

Several years ago Judy had a very embarrassing moment at the Frontierland Train Station because of leaning on the railing. She managed somehow to get her knee through the space between the 4x4 vertical posts and could not get it back out.
We were buying tickets to get into the Louvre when we hear a blood curdling scream. Some kid had managed to get himself between the moving rubber hand hold on one of the escalators and a railing. The rubber was moving across his stomach and pulling him farther in. Luckily a guard ran over and hit the E-Stop button before the kid got much of a friction burn. The entrance lobby makes a great echo chamber!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

You obviously have never come in contact with an electric livestock fence. It may be referred to as "tickling" but it is a tiny bit more entertaining than that. A casual brush can feel like a casual brush against a branding iron (but no burn mark). And it is a pulsing zap, about 2 pulses per second. Anyone who "gets jollies" from such a zap is WAY beyond enjoying anything that Disney would offer.

Randy

Anyone who has gotten shocked would not do it again, unless they wanted to, those things hurt!! then again, there ARE some people that like that sort of thing!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I really don't get it. Is stupidity on the rise or are these people coming out of the woodwork because they see other lawsuits and think they will win big bucks from Disney's deep pockets? I NEVER am thinking about ways to make money off of the venue I am at, whether it be Disneyland, a grocery store or a skating rink. I believe safety should be first in everyone's, including the guest's minds. I know that Traditions puts Safety at the top of the list right before Courtesy, Show and Efficiency and it is as it should be. If you see some SG taking a header into the Sub Lagoon, then Safety should be the first thing to consider, not *On with the Show* And by telling the SGs that it is dangerous to lean, sit, spin and stand on their head like Criss Angel on the railings or chains is not bad show, it is the first thing EVERY business should be looking out for, for it's patrons. People will find ANY reason to get money, greed begets bad behavior and it seems they are going to the Parks looking for ways to make money from Disney, Not all SGs, just that special breed of SG that thinks this is their ticket out of the Trailer Park. The other SGs just make for good stories and bad shifts....:mad:
I thank every CM for giving me a safety spiel, they are trying to keep me in one piece, unbleeding and alive.:)
Take care and try to laugh it off, I am usually the first person you hear laughing at the poor sap who fell on his/her poor, wittle head.:twisted:
SusiSlicker

p.s. as far as being a hypocrite, we all have those little moments. When you get to be my age, you can call them Senior Moments! ;)

I have seen this time and again in both my professional life and private. Some people have attitude of "what can I get for free" or "how can I make this pay me" every once in a while you run across people that want the "world" to give them a living, weather to put themselves in a situation that they can sue someone or a big corporation, or see how they can manipulate the rules to benefit themselves. Its the modern day equivalent of begging or scamming. you see it every day. Some of the SG's that a lot of people talk about here, and other places, seem to have this attitude, and you are right, it does seem to be getting bigger.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Several years ago Judy had a very embarrassing moment at the Frontierland Train Station because of leaning on the railing. She managed somehow to get her knee through the space between the 4x4 vertical posts and could not get it back out.

She, I and the CM at the station worked for several minutes manipulating her leg but could not get the knee back to the Guest side of the railing. Finally the CM called RCES and they sent a squad with a Jaws of Life; put the JoL down at the bottom of the posts and it then pushed them apart and she was able to get her leg out.

I wonder what the maintenance people thought of when they had to put the fencing back together.

Of course Judy was very careful about leaning on fences in the future.

Did you get pictures!! (without getting things thrown at you!) hehehe

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

We were buying tickets to get into the Louvre when we hear a blood curdling scream. Some kid had managed to get himself between the moving rubber hand hold on one of the escalators and a railing. The rubber was moving across his stomach and pulling him farther in. Luckily a guard ran over and hit the E-Stop button before the kid got much of a friction burn. The entrance lobby makes a great echo chamber!

Oh my, the SG's are in FRANCE!! Hmm, maybe the are trying to trace to Sicon!!

[Cheshire Figment]

How in the world did she get her leg in there in the first place? Inquiring minds want to know, so *I* can avoid doing it myself and having them have to go through the same thing again for me! :hysteria:

We never figured out how she had gotten it in, and she was unwilling to try again. When we were trying to get it out (and she was wearing shorts, so no clothing in the way) the CM and I both (and later the squad people) attempted to both support her (while she was holding onto the horizontal rail at the top) and maneuver her leg. It must have been the angle that the leg went in that allowed the skin to compress enough to go in, but when trying to get it back out the skin would have been stacking up against the bones.

Did you get pictures!! (without getting things thrown at you!) hehehe
I did value my life and if I had even taken a camera out she might have killed me. Luckily for us it was a slow time of year and really before digital cameras had caught on. Also, the CM would not have allowed any Guests to go to the track side of the railing for pictures.

[Zazu]

I love Pumbaa, :pumbaa: He is probably one of my all time favorite Disney characters. Warthogs....sigh......gotta love em....:hysteria: And he eats worms......:D:

Zazu: we ned more Pumbaa smilies! This one is cute, but does not show the big, beautiful warthog in all his humongus glory!!!!!Okay, how's this one: :pumbaa2:

[Zazu]

Several years ago Judy had a very embarrassing moment at the Frontierland Train Station because of leaning on the railing. She managed somehow to get her knee through the space between the 4x4 vertical posts and could not get it back out.

... Finally the CM called RCES and they sent a squad with a Jaws of Life; put the JoL down at the bottom of the posts and it then pushed them apart and she was able to get her leg out.

I wonder what the maintenance people thought of when they had to put the fencing back together.Probably not much. I had to bust somebody's leg out of that fence about once a month; twice that often at Toontown.

Never bothered calling an Alpha Unit for the job though. We kept an old steel stanchion in the Baggage Room and just busted the stiles loose ourselves. :bbbat:

Judy was, I'm sure, patient. Some of the kids, not so much.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Probably not much. I had to bust somebody's leg out of that fence about once a month; twice that often at Toontown.

Never bothered calling an Alpha Unit for the job though. We kept an old steel stanchion in the Baggage Room and just busted the stiles loose ourselves. :bbbat:

Judy was, I'm sure, patient. Some of the kids, not so much.

I was thinking that if there is that many incidents, they should possibly put a fine mesh over it, tht way no one would be tempted, and it would still be see through.

[DLRFantasmic!Dan]

Several years ago Judy had a very embarrassing moment at the Frontierland Train Station because of leaning on the railing. She managed somehow to get her knee through the space between the 4x4 vertical posts and could not get it back out.

She, I and the CM at the station worked for several minutes manipulating her leg but could not get the knee back to the Guest side of the railing. Finally the CM called RCES and they sent a squad with a Jaws of Life; put the JoL down at the bottom of the posts and it then pushed them apart and she was able to get her leg out.

I wonder what the maintenance people thought of when they had to put the fencing back together.

Of course Judy was very careful about leaning on fences in the future.

It happens often when I am working the Astro Orbitor. Some kid is stupid enough to have their knee caught in between the sliding gates and we have to call maintance to bring the jaws of life.

[Cheshire Figment]

I was thinking that if there is that many incidents, they should possibly put a fine mesh over it, tht way no one would be tempted, and it would still be see through.
But that would be "bad show".

[Shorty82]

I would think Disney would know how to design railings that look good and were also idiot proof, or at least more idiot proof than the ones they have now.

[Princess Susi]

Okay, how's this one: :pumbaa2:

Oh, that is a very nice one! I love it and you are the king, Zazu! Thank you very much!:D:
susi

[Planner]

Build better rails they just make better idiots:D: Nothing is idiot proof, you can slow em down and you can weed some of the more genetically diverse ones out but there are always those...winners in life :ridicule:

[hobie16]

I did value my life and if I had even taken a camera out she might have killed me.
How could she? She was stuck in the rail! :twisted:

[vixen101485]

There is always late at nite when he would be sound asleep. LOL

Donnie;s dad on the other hand has no qualms about taking pics of his wife in odd postitions or situations. I reallllllly didnt want to see the woman;s backside while gardening or the gory pics of her shoulder after being oprerated on. BLECH!

[hobie16]

There is always late at nite when he would be sound asleep. LOL
Ahhhhh, the old frying pan trick.

[vixen101485]

I was leaning toward Lorena Bobbit but, that will work too.

[hobie16]

I was leaning toward Lorena Bobbit but, that will work too.
For a picture?!?! You ladies have no sense of humor.

[vixen101485]

Sure we do, that is if the pic is of you in an odd position. LOL

[hobie16]

Sure we do, that is if the pic is of you in an odd position. LOL
My wife got one of me doing demolition for an addition to the house. I had fallen through the ceiling and was still hanging on to a joist.

She'll pay dearly one of these days. :twisted::twisted:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I would think Disney would know how to design railings that look good and were also idiot proof, or at least more idiot proof than the ones they have now.

Good point, when you make something idiot proof, they seem to find a better idiot!!

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

How could she? She was stuck in the rail! :twisted:

Like others have said, its not the immediate danger, its the distant danger!! usually when you least expect it!!

[Randy B]

Build better rails they just make better idiots:D: Nothing is idiot proof, you can slow em down and you can weed some of the more genetically diverse ones out but there are always those...winners in life :ridicule:

True. The human race seems to be driving to maximize the number of future Dawin Award winners.

One thought about the railings. If the problem is the vertical parts of the rail (the stiles), attach the top of each style with a single nail or screw that is parallel to the floor, causing a hinge. Then the bottom swings free. A series of blocks placed between the bottoms keep the styles in place, and spaced properly. But when it is needed to spread them apart to un-trap someone, simply lift the adjacent spacer blocks and the offending stiles easily spread. Then when the trapped limb is removed, the blocks can be replaced and everything is right back to normal.

Randy

[vixen101485]

Yeah but then you have the morons who have the bright idea of watching how it is done and deciding that they would like them better removed as souveneirs.:rolleyes:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Yeah but then you have the morons who have the bright idea of watching how it is done and deciding that they would like them better removed as souveneirs.:rolleyes:

Thats all we need are SG's that decide to dismantle the park to take home!!

[Cranbiz]

It happens often when I am working the Astro Orbitor. Some kid is stupid enough to have their knee caught in between the sliding gates and we have to call maintance to bring the jaws of life.

But I like using the Jaws of Life. It's so much fun to cut up and contort metal objects in ways the designers never thought of.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

But I like using the Jaws of Life. It's so much fun to cut up and contort metal objects in ways the designers never thought of.

They could start a "New" type of gift shop, pieces of the attractions that had to be cut up because someone was an SG.