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SkullRocker
09-01-2007, 08:54 AM
What's happening here?

http://item.express.ebay.com/Adult-2-DAY-Disneyland-Tickets-Hopper-Pass-9-3-9-16_W0QQitemZ170144571382QQihZ007QQtrZexpQQcmdZExpressIt em

The guy is seliing passes. OK, maybe there's nothing wrong with that. But why does he need to meet you at the end of the day and pick the passes back up again?

I will meet you in the morning as early as a half an hour before Disneyland opens to give you the tickets. You will have both days with the tickets to go back and forth to Disneyland and California. Then on the second day when California closes you would go back into Disneyland where I will meet you. (Once again park hours vary depending on the day you go so please check Disneyland website for all park hours.) If you are already in the park you won't need the tickets anymore, all the fast-pass machines will be closed by then. So I am meeting you twice, once in the morning and then once at night. So I am meeting you twice, once in the morning and then once at night on the second day.

It seems odd. Could someone explain this to me? (Not interested in the auction, just curious) Even if he were a cast member signing people in for money he wouldn't need the passes back, right?

And even if he somehow has the ability to buy tickets for half price, once the 2-Day clock starts running those tickets become worthless the end of the 2nd day, right? So, again, why the big deal about getting them back?

Cheshire Figment
09-01-2007, 09:14 AM
Maybe they are stolen and he does not want Disney getting hold of them to trace.

Big Wallaby
09-01-2007, 09:20 AM
That's certainly weird. I guess it's another case of buyer beware. Imagine my shock.

Cranbiz
09-01-2007, 10:10 AM
I'm sure that there is something fishy here.

He states that he has 10 tickets and that only time they are good is for the first 2 weeks in September.

If he is not trying to hide something, why does he need the media back??

DLRFantasmic!Dan
09-01-2007, 11:12 AM
Yeah, I don't understand the reasoning for that either. It smells fishy to me!!!

ktulu
09-01-2007, 01:13 PM
I bet Disney is already watching this one. Seems very fishy. Maybe someone should email him and ask him why he needs them back :)

Floridian
09-01-2007, 01:22 PM
That is very weird, my only guess is he wants to tickets to try and cover up evidence of the sale. Doesn't sound like what he is doing it legal but then again I sometimes get confused myself about those rules....has a bunch of positive reviews though.

mechurchlady
09-01-2007, 02:53 PM
That is an aweful large amount of time he is spending. He has to park then take a tram then walk to the front then find the person. How do you find someone at the front of the Park. Then he has to repeat this again on the last day. Why spend at least 2 hours and maybe more to sell some tickets? Even if he could get half price tickets he could make more money with local friends than going through Ebay.

If he was an employee then he would not be doing a two park ticket would he? Again he would have it easier to tell people around him that he is an employee comping people for a small fee. He could as an employee take his favorite waitress to a park and then she could give him cash for something else like gasoline or to buy his old lawn mower. "You got $100 for admission to parks using your cast ID" "Nope, she bought my old lawn mower for $100" and then he whips out a bill of sale.

It is a fishy tale however you look at it. I want to go to WDW for my 50th birthday but no so much as risking losing all my money or jail time.

Main Streeter
09-01-2007, 03:05 PM
I bet Disney is already watching this one.They are! TDA contact told me abt this one. Seems fools are still born daily.:rolleyes:

mechurchlady
09-01-2007, 03:11 PM
http://item.express.ebay.com/Adult-1-DAY-Disneyland-Tickets-Hopper-Pass-9-4-9-5-9-6_W0QQitemZ170145114766QQihZ007QQfromsoiZ1QQcmdZExpress Item
Selling a park hopper good for one day at "$49

Wow what schmuck would pay that when you could get a ticket good any time.

SorcererMickey
09-01-2007, 03:45 PM
That is one of the craziest things I have ever seen. Even if you were going to buy a park tickey on ebay why would you willingly give it back? If someone wasn't going to send me the tickets to actually have I would run far, far away from this seller.

Zazu
09-02-2007, 09:19 AM
That is one of the craziest things I have ever seen. Even if you were going to buy a park tickey on ebay why would you willingly give it back?Maybe it's an IQ test. Anybody willing to agree to his terms would be stupid enough he'd feel safe doing business with them. :homer:

darph nader
09-02-2007, 09:37 AM
It's a good thing he isn't asking for your car keys or your hotel keys. :eek:
Like they say,"If it's too good to be true,it probaly isn't".
This sounds too weird to be real. :confused:

Elena (aka: Bubble Lady)
09-02-2007, 12:42 PM
i just emailed the guy to ask why he would need tickets back that would be no good after the 2nd day:poke: ...we'll see what he has to say...i'll be happy to share what he sends back to me :D:

vixen101485
09-02-2007, 02:30 PM
Glad you did that. I was tempted to also. I wanted to play all innocent and ask the same thing but be all like "but I really like to keep my tickets as souveniers but I will make you a copy of it if you really need it back" If he agreed to a copy I would black out all the important numbers.

What gets me tho is his request for your Drivers License info. What is he gonna do if you dont show up to return the ticket? Come knocking on your door in Alaska? Anyone who is stupid enuf to give that info anyway deserves what they get.

LOL...kinda reminds me of those sting operations they do to get people who have warrants out on them. Tell them they won something and when they show up to pick it up, arrest their butts. LOL

ktulu
09-02-2007, 04:18 PM
LOL...kinda reminds me of those sting operations they do to get people who have warrants out on them. Tell them they won something and when they show up to pick it up, arrest their butts. LOL

One of my favorite cops episode is where they call people saying they are from Dewercs saying blah blah blah had won a new t.v., and they show up with box and everything. The perp has a huge smile on his face, and then they drop the box and slap on the cuffs.

Oh, Darph, Dewercs is Screwed backwards.

BRWombat
09-02-2007, 04:38 PM
After seeing this, I'm considering auctioning off day-old lottery tickets. Half-price, and only 0.0000001% less chance of winning!

Princess Susi
09-03-2007, 08:06 AM
Sounds highly suspect to me...There is a link to report the item to eBay, which I did, although eBay rarely does anything about these types of auctions even when they are as suspect as this. :oweye: Asking for a license number, good grief, who would give a complete stranger THAT kind of info? That, right there, is enough right there to raise big, ole, ginormous red flags! :eek:
susi

Elena (aka: Bubble Lady)
09-03-2007, 09:42 AM
ok, so i heard back from whoever it is and this is what he/she said

"They are mutiday tickets. The will have another day left on them. Thanks."

so i wrote back and said "oh, you mean, they're actually good for more than the 2 days?" :confused:

now i'm waiting to hear back from the seller again... :rolleyes:

pattimelt
09-03-2007, 10:58 AM
My .02 as a "Vacation Planner", aka Ticket Seller:

These sound like the 8 day tickets we have been notified about that are being purchased and then sold every 2 days to new people for the $100.. the tickets only cost $249 or so.. but if you sell 2 days on each ticket for $100 per, you're looking at making $400 total on the 4 persons that will use each 8 day ticket-- and then these people use the 8th day to upgrade to a premium annual pass.. You figure a premium ap costs $359. You spend $249 on the 8 day ticket, sell it for $400. $400-249= $151, $151 + the original $249, the guy is making $50 AND getting a premium ap for free... would LOVE to pull his info up on the ap screen and see what we get, since the notes will say if he upgraded and from what type of ticket...

We have been told that if someone has an 8 day ticket that they want to upgrade, that they not only have to tell us what days they went to which park, but we get to pick a day and ask them which park they went to first, and what time they came in... just to help make sure it's their ticket!!

Big Wallaby
09-03-2007, 11:08 AM
Coming soon to a Disneyland near you: Biometrics!

darph nader
09-03-2007, 06:19 PM
Thanks for telling up front ktulu. Otherwise I would have woken up at 3:00 in the am, and yelled "Thats what it means",scaring the hell out of wife. :cool:

Elena (aka: Bubble Lady)
09-04-2007, 11:24 AM
ok, so i heard back from whoever it is and this is what he/she said

"They are mutiday tickets. The will have another day left on them. Thanks."

so i wrote back and said "oh, you mean, they're actually good for more than the 2 days?" :confused:

now i'm waiting to hear back from the seller again... :rolleyes:


so here's the answer i received when i asked if they were good for more than 2 days:

"Yes that's why I need them returned to use the other day. Thanks."

drcorey
09-04-2007, 11:34 AM
so here's the answer i received when i asked if they were good for more than 2 days:

"Yes that's why I need them returned to use the other day. Thanks."

even if they are his legally, I don't think Disney would like him to sell off days from them to make a profit.

vixen101485
09-04-2007, 11:40 AM
Tell him you might be interested in buying the other day and see what he says.

Elena (aka: Bubble Lady)
09-04-2007, 01:15 PM
Tell him you might be interested in buying the other day and see what he says.


i just did

vixen101485
09-04-2007, 02:32 PM
LOL...great minds think alike.

mechurchlady
09-04-2007, 03:24 PM
3 day ticket and I get them for two, run ethel and hide the tickets is my motto. If he was legit then I would send in uncle Bob to get the tickets at a hotel then the rest of us would take the tickets to the park for 2 days then turn them over to uncle bob for one day, woot.

Shorty82
09-04-2007, 04:12 PM
Does DL not use biometrics at the turnstyles like they do at WDW? AFAIK this kind of trick would not work at WDW as the first time you use a ticket they take a biometric profile of your finger.

vixen101485
09-04-2007, 04:25 PM
I checked out the ebay page again to read to Donnie what it had said and there is the little info symbol on there that says "this item is no longer available"

darph nader
09-04-2007, 06:01 PM
Coming soon to a Disneyland near you: Biometrics!

Is that the same as bio-samples? :twisted:

Elena (aka: Bubble Lady)
09-04-2007, 06:53 PM
Tell him you might be interested in buying the other day and see what he says.

i just did
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and here's what he had to say

I sell my 3day tickets for $135 each. If you are looking for last day tickets to upgrade I don't have them. All my tickets will need to be returned. Thanks

vixen101485
09-04-2007, 07:00 PM
So in other words he knows that you know he is running a scam and doesnt want you to make money off his lame idea. :rolleyes:

LittleDollClaudia
09-04-2007, 07:06 PM
Thanks to this forum post, I stopped my manager from purchasing tickets to Sea World on Ebay. I told her about the scam artists and she said thank you from having her make a big mistake. So thanks for the heads up! :clap:

leftcoaster
09-05-2007, 04:13 AM
Does DL not use biometrics at the turnstyles like they do at WDW? AFAIK this kind of trick would not work at WDW as the first time you use a ticket they take a biometric profile of your finger.

Just because they take a profile of your finger, does not make it unique profile. It is not a fingerprint. When WDW rolled out the first system, using two fingers, the machine took measurements of certain aspects of your fingers. I assume they do the same thing with only one finger. That does not mean that someone 100 people behind you could not have the same profile.

Cheshire Figment
09-05-2007, 06:35 AM
Just because they take a profile of your finger, does not make it unique profile. It is not a fingerprint. When WDW rolled out the first system, using two fingers, the machine took measurements of certain aspects of your fingers. I assume they do the same thing with only one finger. That does not mean that someone 100 people behind you could not have the same profile.
Basically it is a partial print.

The first time the scan is taken it selects four points which define a rectangle and records the pattern within that rectangle, not the entire print.

Subsequent times it looks at the entire print to see if it can find the matching rectangle.

Also, if it is a group that has purchased their tickets in one transaction from a location with an ATS terminal the tickets are linked together, so if these people switch tickets among themselves it will accept the scan but show up as "different person" on the greeter side of the turnstile.