Space Mtn. at the future Hong Kong D-land

[BirdMom]

Won't say how I heard about this, but the next Disney theme park, Hong Kong Disneyland is getting a way-cool version of Space Mountain. Person I spoke to saw this huge amazing meteor that will be shooting through the middle of the loop that will be part of the track - it will look as if it's about to collide with the sled as it's going through the loop. Just the fact that it's actually going to have a loop - well, it looks like there's going to be a Space Mountain that will actually be scary!

:pbjtime:

[Polar33]

Ooh, I'm jealous. Now I'm going to have to add Hong Kong Disneyland to my list of "places I need to go".

[VonSeegs]

I would absolutely love to go there to train it. That means that I'd have to go back to the one at home though. Eh... I've got a year to decide.

[Freak]

I've heard too much to actually figure out what Space Mountain is going to be like now. First I hear that SM at HK is going to be a clone of our SM, and we're getting the same SM as HK is getting... So does that mean we're getting a loop? Or is everything all topsy-turvy and backwards? Or is SM in HK going to be the same as ours? :shock: gahhh :x ::falls over confuzed:: I'm done trying to figure out what the hell is going on with this...I'm just going to sit back and wait to see what our SM is going to look like.

[VonSeegs]

Our Space is going to have a new track, although, it will still be the same ride path. Instead of a hollow track I believe it's going to solid, either that or it's still going to be pressurized but much thicker than before. I honestly really haven't cared that much to find out for sure but I could for ya.

There will be new digital effects on the ride, some nostalgic ones. What's really going to change is the station. We'll get station gates (yuck), I think they're going to try to work in some kind of transfer table deal like the Matterhorn, and yes, they want to put in some kind of ADA rocket where we will load the guests in that and then transfer it onto the track. Hopefully we won't break down so much. We're also getting new rockets with new sound equipment. We had the test rocket and was testing it nightly for DOSH. We were supposed to get it to run with guests some time in May but, as y'all know, we closed a little earlier than planed.

So basicall, instead of cheesy 70's style it's going to be cheesy new century style. But the new effects should be cool. There's no loop going in though. Nowhere near enough room in the building. And I believe HK will be getting ours. The Imagineers did a lot of studying at ours here.

[Space Man K7]

Oooooooo so the excitiment that is Space Mountain... that would be great to go to Hong Kong and train.. and I'd do it in a heart beat. I was lucky enough to get a couple of sketches for the new space accepted by WDI... generaly my concourse design is trying to be implimented, and they took my station design and improved it... I'm really excitied about that. I'd love to see it in concrete. The one downfall to going to Hong Kong, would be the fact that they eat all parts of the Chicken... Not a fan of original, or extra crispy head and KFC!

[Dante101]

The one downfall to going to Hong Kong, would be the fact that they eat all parts of the Chicken... Not a fan of original, or extra crispy head and KFC!
Ah... c'mon! It's so tasty!
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/OddPics/Images/McChick.jpg

[Space Man K7]

The above photo... now that just plain wrong and inappropriate, but it's just like a car wreck... I just can't seem to turn away! HELP ME!!! I'm getting sucked into the extra crispy chicken head

[Fritter]

hehe

i can look at that thing, but can't imagine eating it.

[BirdMom]

Well, I heard something interesting about when the Imagineers from WDI went to sign off on the meteor...and this was before the accident on Thunder. While they were in the facility, it occurred to them that this 30 foot wide meteor with all it's spinning and gyrating effects might have a strong propensity of breaking off whatever it's mounted to. It could very well hit part of the loop or fall onto another part of the track causing all kinds of hell. So now, even though the shell is finished, they're having second thoughts about putting it in the ride. If they could come up with a holographic effect that looked realistic, I think they'd install it in a heartbeat.

[VonSeegs]

I remember they were testing some kind of digital effect where when you were coming off of the last lift there were 2 projections of meteors and they came closer and closer and hit and exploded right as you were taking the first turn. The effect was at a baby stage so it looked really corny but after everything was done you could tell that it would have looked RAD. There was also a sound effect that went with it and they played it a couple of times and had it been in sync with the crashing meteors it would have been really scary.

[SirWillow]

^^ I'm confused. You mean break off and hit the loop they're putting on the Disneyland Space? Only problem is, they're not putting a loop on the new version. It's supposed to be a rebuild following the same layout as it had before, which means no loop. Just new track following that layout, then a retheme and a redo of the station and queue area.

Unless you're seeing something that I've missed somewhere... which is always a possibility.

[Space Man K7]

Now my understanding of Space Mountain Version 2.0, is that the track lay out is to remain the same. If you took the Building Specs from DL and DLP... you'd notice that the stuctures are exactly the same diameter, and the Paris building is a couple feet taller. So In theroy the DLP track would fit in the Anaheim building... but in order for that to work, the queue and station would have to be removed and the Columbiad Cannon would have to be added. Thus (ooo I got a chance to use "thus"!!) Tomorrowland would loose HISTA... Ok, I know it sucks, but can you imagine Tomorrowland with one less attraction than it alread has... the place is dying and she needs all the help she can get.

[Polar33]

Although I'm not one to condone the closure of annother attraction in a land that is barren enough as is, HISTA wouldn't be too bad of a loss. It was fun the first few dozen times and is still good to break up a long day at the park...but I haven't seen the que line actually used in years.

But then, I also believe that they could figure out some way to work it so that they could have both...but that would take both time and money so it probabaly wouldn't work out.

[Dante101]

But then, I also believe that they could figure out some way to work it so that they could have both...but that would take both time and money so it probabaly wouldn't work out.
They could easily have both... if they wanted to. But this version of the Disney company is all about saving money. The whole reason we got Astro Orbiter the way it is, is because it is an exact duplicate of the one in Paris. They had all the plans finished and everything worked out for the one in Paris, so the do it again, using those same plans, saved them a sh*tload of $$$.
So for them to rework the queue area, and put it in, say, where the arcade is now, would cost them a lot of money in planning it all out.
They could even get rid of the NASA exhibit - move the Star Trader shop to where NASA was - and use the old arcade/Star Trader area for the Paris-styled queue thing.
But it all comes down to money, and whether or not they want to spend. I'm sure they've had the same conversations years ago, when they first decided to "rebuild" the mountain...

Personally, I think they missed a great chance in redesigning ours to be like the one in Paris. A lot of the planning work can be recycled from Paris, and when it's all done, they could have truthfully advertised Space as a NEW attraction.

But they can't really do that when it has the exact same track layout as before...

You'd think they'd jump at being able to "build a new attraction" at a cheaper cost then designing a whole new one...

[Tink797]

Yeah you would think huh? But the way they are chopping budgets left and right why would they want something new and fun?? I have a huge problem when I walk through tomorrowland, even though it is a ghost town, and have one of the biggest eateries TLT (now Club Buzz) closed most everyday except when they think they might make money. I can't even imagine what kind of labor and hour cut that gave to the foods cast members... gosh what is going on here?!?! :cry:

[Tink797]

By the way I am perminately scared by that picture!!! :shock: AHHHHHHHH!! :shock: RUN AWAY!!!! :shock:

[Ottar]

Just the fact that it's actually going to have a loop - well, it looks like there's going to be a Space Mountain that will actually be scary!Space Mountain in the States doesn't have a loop?!?!?!!?
SM in Paris has two loops, a sideways horseshoe turn (or "french loop") and a corkscrew... I thought they were identical! ...well, apart from the outer housing....

[techie-13]

DLP's Space Mtn. also has a launch sequence that is kind of fun to watch. The theme is that you are being launched to the moon in a really big gun.
And then the ride is awesome. The only downside is that it knocks your head into the sides of the shoulder-harness.



(hmmm, if I start saving now, maybe I can talk the hubby into a second honeymoon for our 10yr anniversary....only about 8yrs to go... 8) )

[SONiC Senshi]

Now my understanding of Space Mountain Version 2.0, is that the track lay out is to remain the same. If you took the Building Specs from DL and DLP... you'd notice that the stuctures are exactly the same diameter, and the Paris building is a couple feet taller. So In theroy the DLP track would fit in the Anaheim building... but in order for that to work, the queue and station would have to be removed and the Columbiad Cannon would have to be added. Thus (ooo I got a chance to use "thus"!!) Tomorrowland would loose HISTA... Ok, I know it sucks, but can you imagine Tomorrowland with one less attraction than it alread has... the place is dying and she needs all the help she can get.

The diameter on both Space Mountains are 200ft. and both are about 16.5ft. below grade. But from their highest to lowest points are total different.
Disneyland: 117ft. (100ft. Above ground)
Disneyland Paris:157ft. (141ft. Above ground)

[FormerWDI]

I remember they were testing some kind of digital effect where when you were coming off of the last lift there were 2 projections of meteors and they came closer and closer and hit and exploded right as you were taking the first turn. The effect was at a baby stage so it looked really corny but after everything was done you could tell that it would have looked RAD. There was also a sound effect that went with it and they played it a couple of times and had it been in sync with the crashing meteors it would have been really scary.

I was there that day...my back hurt after riding for so long! And, yes, that is the effect for Hong Kong...not an actual meteorite.