Night of Joy

[kurtisnelson]

Boy, I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with Night of Joy. Just being in the park with them for two hours today was enough. Too much energy used screaming off of TTA to people on the ground.

[mechurchlady]

september 1998, my worst memory after rain related was Joy Night. Them damned fools were running through parking lots like they owned it. I slammed the brakes to avoid one and yelled something about being a stupid Bambi. Her boyfriend hit my rental car with his fist and left a nice dent. The car had New York license plates and under 5,000 miles.

I wonder what happened in the parks if they were that rude and careless in parking lots. Normally you do not see that kind of wild behavior in parking lots.

[felinefan]

I can remember when they had a Christian-themed private party during New Year's Eve/New Year's Day. There were kids trying to get on rides in Camp Snoopy that they weren't qualified to ride on, and they even tried bribery -- like I'm gonna make an exception for a lousy dollar! I told some kids that if they were Christian, why weren't they obeying the rules? One kid said, "We're atheists!" I countered with, "If you're an atheist, what are you doing in a Christian private party?" I couldn't hear his reply due to background noise. I can remember when Christian kids were better Christians than their parents, or at least you could spot them because they were squeaky clean. No more. Sad.

[kurtisnelson]

Not to get into a flame war, but alot of people call themselves Christians when they really are not. People like them give us a bad name.

[bpgstudios]

Speaking of bribery, last night at Night of Oy i got to confsicate 3 flik cards from these kids that *obviously* stole them since we don;t give out 3 fliks at a time, and they were wearing them proudly. When I told them they needed to give them to be, because they were the protery of the Walt Disney Company, they asked to buy them for $2. Nuh-uh, not for sale buddy. Now hand them over before I get security to explain to you the punishment for stealing from our parks.

I heard from someone in merch that all the little objects on shelves at fantasy faire had to be removed before the 2nd NoJ started because they stole too much the first night.

[APtink]

I know my church uses Night of Joy as an outreach opportunity and often church members will pay ("scholarship") for inner city kids to attend who normally wouldn't be able to afford it.

[darph nader]

Not to get into a flame war, but alot of people call themselves Christians when they really are not. People like them give us a bad name.

What about us agonstic rednecks? Can we have a night of beer,fishing and bug zappers? :rolleyes:

[mechurchlady]

What about us agonstic rednecks? Can we have a night of beer,fishing and bug zappers? :rolleyes:
That is what Fort Wilderness if for, lol.

My church has done youth outreach and will take kids who are not saved to events and youth meetings. In all likelyhood a lot bad stuff is because of unsaved families who do not know how to act civil like but are guests of the Christians who hope to get those heathens and their brats into a good moral group of people.

[Stitch _Lover_Sith]

All I remember from my encounter with Night of Joy was how people did not listen to a single thing that you asked them to do. Like move all the way down a row, really how hard is that. Or how about rows one and two and they take all four. But what really put the icing on the cake for me was when you would ask how many they had in their party they would reply all of us. I really wanted to say no S*** but sadly could not. Night of Joy is ten times worse than Grad night. And that is saying quite a lot.

[hhsrat]

Me: How many in your party?
Guest: All of us.
Me: There are 3 thousand people in this line. You can ride with up to 30. How many in your party?

or

Me: How many in your party?
Guest: Yes
Me: Ok, party of one, take row number 5

[leftcoaster]

All I remember from my encounter with Night of Joy was how people did not listen to a single thing that you asked them to do. Like move all the way down a row, really how hard is that.

As a guest, that is my probably my favorite "love to hate" with SG's. My solution? As I have to trample over them, the foot of each SG just so happens to be in the way of my foot, and I accidently land on top of theirs. Sometimes to balance myself, I have to "hop" to make sure I land correctly, with my foot straight and as high up off the toes as possible. ;)

[Taryn]

Apparently people were sitting on Roy and Walt the other night...Now Roy, I could very slightly understand, since he is, indeed, sitting on a bench. But Walt? The kid apparently had to climb up on his shoulders...do these people have no decency?!

[Kwahati]

Apparently people were sitting on Roy and Walt the other night...

They're lucky I wasn't there to witness this act of blasphemy! Y'know, it's been a while since I've been to temple, so you might want to ask the Christians, but I'm pretty sure that was one of the original commandments Moses brought down from Mt. Sainai: "Thou shalt not sit upon statues of the heroes of others lest ye be sat upon thineself!" And not to cross threads here, but if you think sitting *next* to me on a plane is bad...

Ah well I'm gonna go "talk to a burning bush" for a while, see if I come up with any rules for how we can all get along... :twisted:

[Syndrome]

My solution? As I have to trample over them, the foot of each SG just so happens to be in the way of my foot, and I accidently land on top of theirs. Sometimes to balance myself, I have to "hop" to make sure I land correctly, with my foot straight and as high up off the toes as possible. ;)
I hate to admit it, but I used this tactic on a Disney cruise once. The jacka$$ next to us had an obsession with his digital camera. Despite the annoucements NOT to take flash photos, he did so every five minutes...I'm sure they really came out good, considering we were in the back row. When I said something, he pulled the old "No speak English" card (despite having ordered a smoothie in flawless English earlier). My husband and I left the show a bit early (we skip the cruise director's announcements afterwards), and gosh darn! Somehow I managed to trample the heck out of Photo Boy's feet, excusing myself the whole way, "Oops! Oh, darn, this aisle is so narrow"). I was hoping against hope he would say something to me ("Oh, so you speak English now? Well, the reason I am tripping and stepping all over you is that I am now legally blind from your flash."), but I think he just decided that we were dangerous because he practically stood on his chair when my husband passed, apparently expecting more punishment. It probably wasn't the nicest thing to do, but hey, I tried to ask nicely first. Every now and then you have to pull a "Falling Down."

[SirWillow]

There's several problems that come up at events like this that result in all the rowdiness, immaturity, and idiots that abound:

1. The "outreach" that many do for it, practically begging kids to come along to events like this that would never come near a church otherwise. These are often your big troublemakers, and the hope is that somehow while they're running wild around the park they'll suddenly hear some song and change their lives. Trust me, as a youth leader and vet of many of these things, it doesn't happen. They come for the free ride to the park and to mess around since they'll never be with those that brought them again.

2. The leaders of these groups bringing in to many kids for the adult supervision they brought, then turning them loose in the parks to do whatever they want without an adult or someone responsible watching them. I don't care how good the kids are, when you've got a group running loose, they're going to want to try things they wouldn't otherwise and get in trouble.

Stop bringing in people that you wouldn't want near your kids the rest of the time, and start providing serious adult supervision and these would be great. Unfortunately I doubt either one will happen. To much common sense in it.

[LittleDollClaudia]

What? People taking responsibility for their actions? Surely you are joking. ;)

[mechurchlady]

I apologize for posting religious stuff on this site. I try hard not to do that anywhere. I was very upset with Joy Night because it is a disgrace. I will probably leave this site before i get banned. I had fun and learned a lot, bye, churchy

[kurtisnelson]

I don't think you will get banned... As we know, the people on this forum are VERY tolerent with what they put up with everyday. And if you get banned, I am coming down with you.
:Back on Topic:
I think the problem is you take a bunch of teenagers and put them in one park unsupervised. Teenagers are teenagers.

[WLStephanie]

I apologize for posting religious stuff on this site. I try hard not to do that anywhere. I was very upset with Joy Night because it is a disgrace. I will probably leave this site before i get banned. I had fun and learned a lot, bye, churchy

Am I missing something? I didn't see anything that I would have considered over the top. Churchy, unless there's a post that I didn't see, I'll be coming with you. I've seen way more offensive stuff on this site than anything that I've seen you post in this thread.

[Pooh Bear Fan]

I think the problem is you take a bunch of teenagers and put them in one park unsupervised. Teenagers are teenagers.

Park nothing. You should have seen what was going on at the pool at CBR.

According to my husband, they should have gotten a room. Until I told him that they were only about 15 or 16.

I wonder if their parents know what goes on while they are at Disney.

[Zazu]

Am I missing something? I didn't see anything that I would have considered over the top. Churchy, unless there's a post that I didn't see, I'll be coming with you. I've seen way more offensive stuff on this site than anything that I've seen you post in this thread.We moderators here prefer to do our work quietly and backstage, where it belongs. Since Churchy has raised the issue publicly, and as others are asking about the nature of her offense, I'll see if I can explain things.

One post of hers generated more complaints than any other we've seen before. There were two phrases that seemed to tick folks off the most:

... unsaved families who do not know how to act civil like...Which suggested to some that those who are "unsaved" are automatically "uncivil".

... hope to get those heathens and their brats into a good moral group of people.Which suggested to some that "heathens" -- broadly read as "folks who aren't in my denomination" -- are not of "good morals", and that all of their children are automatically "brats".

I can't say if these interpretations are accurate representations of Churchy's opinions or not (and I'm not asking). They do represent a bit of a stretch, but people with a non-mainstream faith (and some folks in the mainstream) take a lot of flack for their beliefs, and may be a bit sensitive about perceived insults.

Our only admonition to Churchy -- and my advice to everyone else here -- is to leave questions of religion for more appropriate forums. Cast members come from all sorts of backgrounds, and profess all sorts of faiths (including none at all), but we manage to work together successfully because we try (to varying degrees of success) to set aside our differences and concentrate on what we have in common.

Let's try to remember that what we have in common *here* is stupid guests, laughter, and mutual support.

Moderator Zazu

P.S. If anyone wishes to discuss moderation, religeon, or the potential for getting banned here, please do so in a PM to me or the other moderators. It is now off-topic in all forums. --MZ

[felinefan]

I can still remember what one of our teachers said to us during graduation rehearsals when I was in high school. We were going to have a trip to Disneyland for Grad Night, and after explaining the details, the teacher told us, "Just remember--the Monorail will NOT be stopping at the Disneyland Hotel!" (Everybody laughs). This was way back in the 70s.... I remember going with my class and teachers to Disneyland for my junior high graduation (daylight, of course), but I don't think I went to Grad Night four years later.

[ThunderCat]

To get this thread back on topic...

One of my cocast who worked this year's NoJ reported that he was informed he was going to hell no fewer than four times (that's including the pastor who told him, "Son... you know that f-gs go to hell, right?" Nice guy, that Pastor...). He also caught a teenaged couple err... coupling... on the Frontierland Raft Dock to Tom Sawyer's Island. Another friend in Merchantainment reported that on the second Night of Joy, they were told not to restock the pins before the event due to the amazing amount of shrinkage that occurred the night before.

[Main Streeter]

To get this thread back on topic...
friend in Merchantainment reported that on the second Night of Joy, they were told not to restock the pins before the event due to the amazing amount of shrinkage that occurred the night before.She's correct! At DL we do similar in Adventure & Frontier Lands due to shrink. At Emp. all keychains & magnet spinners are covered with a heavy zippered tarp. Pin supplies & like items large shelf is zipper covered & moved against wall of pins which is covered by a DL banner. This is always done for Grad Nights, maybe for other private events too. Thief guests leave us no other choice. :mad:

[kelli giorgio]

What? People taking responsibility for their actions? Surely you are joking. ;)
How exciting! I have exactly 2 weeks from today. We are taking a Disney cruise for our honeymoon. I can't wait!

[darph nader]

NOTHING against CHURCHY. I've said I'm agnostic,I was baptised a Presbyterian. Nuff said. I will backup anyone for there beliefs.It's my right and duty as an American,and a human.I do not have to believe,but I've seen to much sorrow do to religion. :(
DO NOT take this personally.

steps off soap box and goes to bed.

[SirWillow]

To get this thread back on topic...

One of my cocast who worked this year's NoJ reported that he was informed he was going to hell no fewer than four times (that's including the pastor who told him, "Son... you know that f-gs go to hell, right?" Nice guy, that Pastor...). He also caught a teenaged couple err... coupling... on the Frontierland Raft Dock to Tom Sawyer's Island. Another friend in Merchantainment reported that on the second Night of Joy, they were told not to restock the pins before the event due to the amazing amount of shrinkage that occurred the night before.

"Pastors" like this just irritate the heck out of me- and that's as another pastor (I'm a youth minister). Put simply, there's some bigoted jerks out there- some just disguise it under "religion", and it happens in all faiths and belief systems.

These idiots need to read the portions of their Bible that also say that liars, theives, those filled with hatred for their enemies, gossips, etc. are also going to hell. Oh, whoops, guess it just pretty much condemned everyone there, including myself. grrrrrrrr

In other words, the Bible's point is that there isn't anyone better than another, and that all of us have screwed up and are in need of help in some way. And especially self-righteous twits like that.

Sorry if it's sounding a bit preachy. It's not intended that way, just letting off steam about people that give us a bad name, and who obviously completely miss the point.

~~ A Christian youth pastor who has friends of all types at WDW, including gays, a Wiccan, several atheists, and others...

[Kwahati]

~~ A Christian youth pastor who has friends of all types at WDW, including gays, a Wiccan, several atheists, and others...

Yay loving your fellow man (and woman) unconditionally! WOOT!

By the way, you can add a Jew to your list because I'll be friends with anybody who thinks like that! :D:

[BionicEar]

"Pastors" like this just irritate the heck out of me- and that's as another pastor (I'm a youth minister). Put simply, there's some bigoted jerks out there- some just disguise it under "religion", and it happens in all faiths and belief systems.

These idiots need to read the portions of their Bible that also say that liars, theives, those filled with hatred for their enemies, gossips, etc. are also going to hell. Oh, whoops, guess it just pretty much condemned everyone there, including myself. grrrrrrrr

In other words, the Bible's point is that there isn't anyone better than another, and that all of us have screwed up and are in need of help in some way. And especially self-righteous twits like that.

Sorry if it's sounding a bit preachy. It's not intended that way, just letting off steam about people that give us a bad name, and who obviously completely miss the point.

~~ A Christian youth pastor who has friends of all types at WDW, including gays, a Wiccan, several atheists, and others...

There is a certain Christian denomination (I'll call it church A) that I will never join because of what a pastor of that denomination said to my mother & father before they got married. Church A believes that only their members will go to Heaven - everyone else goes straight to Hell. Well, my grandfather died when my dad was 12, and he was a preacher for another denomination (Church B).

My dad, being a gentleman, told my mother that they would have her minister from Church A do their premarital counseling. When her preacher found out that my dad's late father was a minister for Church B, he said that my grandfather was in Hell.

Needless to say, my mother left Church A and promptly joined Church B. Her father paid a visit to the offending minster and reamed him a new one and followed my mother in joining Church B.

That was in 1949. You'd think times would have changed since then, but sadly they have not. My father ended up becoming a minister himself for Church B and is now retired.

And I refuse to ever join Church A because of that incident so long ago. :evil: