Guests Freaking out about MNSSHP-

[Tarzan&jane]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1193545

They're even going so far as threatening a class action law suit against Disney. :rolleyes: All this because the park isn't being closed to 7pm on the nights of the party.

These people need to get a freaking life, makes me VERY happy to be a FORMER CM.

[Polar33]

Good lord, judging by the logic used by some of those folks if I were to buy a TV from Circut City, and somebody else stole one that same day I should be entitled to a free TV too. After all...why should I have to pay for my TV if somebody else got one for free? :rolleyes:

This is exactly why these events shouldn't take place, people start to get all "holier than thou" and feel like they are entitled to more than everyone else.

[Skovdaddy]

One of those letters to guest relations had to mention the "Walt would be dissapointed." line.

[darph nader]

This is too weird. I'm a member of disboard,do NOT hold this against me. I LOVE this site also. Right now that particular site will not come up. So I'm going to save any further comment til later. :cool:

I have griped about Fantasmic playing EVERY night( on season). That has got be a friggin nightmare for you folks. Crowd wise. :eek:

And the 50th fireworks are cool,but what a C-F. :mad:

[GaTechGal]

when I heard about that on the WDW Today podcast my first thought is that it's probably a mistake on the calendar. Even if you call and are told it's not a mistake it probably still is. and when we went last year they were herding everyone into frontierland. My guess is that would cause plain old day guests to leave. People just need to take a pill and calm down. :rolleyes:

[Tarzan&jane]

Now some are mad because they heard Hallowishes will be shown to everyone on some nights instead of just at the party. The entitlement attitude of guests is just disgusting. Then they wonder why moral is down among CM's!?

Skovdaddy One of those letters to guest relations had to mention the "Walt would be dissapointed." line.

I know, like the poor folks at guest relations haven't heard that one before. :rolleyes: It's so funny because these people honestly think Disney cares if they write a letter saying they'll never come back, Disney knows you're psychos people, you'll be back, you always are.

[David R]

I don't usually side with SGs but let me play devil's advocate for a second. These people are paying good money for a "private" party. If non-paying guests will take up prime parade/fireworks viewing space during this "private" party, then I could see why they are upset. I'm not sure how much the tickets are, but if I was one of them and I see a bunch of people on the curve who have not paid the, say, $50 for the "private" event and I have to end up standing behind them to see the parade, then I'd be upset as well.

However, the whole talk about lawsuits, etc is ridiculous. Not that anyone will follow through. How many people have been threatened to be sued by a SG? :rolleyes: Besides, once the word "lawsuit" has been brought up seriously, guest services get to step to the side and the SG gets the treat of dealing with the Lawyears if I'm not mistaken.

[Polar33]

I will agree that if I were to pay extra for a "private" event that turned out to be open to all, I would be pissed. But the problem is...it's August, not October...these folks are up in arms about things that haven't happened yet.

I don't know about WDW, but Disneyland has used this same method to go from the regular buisiness day to private after hours events countless times, and has not had anywhere close to the problems these folks have conjured up in their minds. Many of them have even received emails from Disney that basicaly say "We know what we're doing, we've done this before".

I will admit however, that many of the emails are not on the same page regarding certain details, and that shouldn't be happening. But then, Disney never has been on top of things when it comes to internal communication.

[leftcoaster]

Those people are ridiculous. I've been to MVMCP twice (with tickets), and I was under the impression that although there were signs that said, "Magic Kingdom will close at 6 pm tonight," the guests that did not have tickets were "encouraged" to leave at 6 pm. Disney did not "force" them out. Because the poeple that bought tickets exchanged them for wristbands which allowed them to watch special shows, ride rides/attractions, etc, the non-paying guests who stayed in the park could still enjoy the parades and fireworks.

Since I have not been to MNSSHP, I don't know how things are set up and have not seen first hand what special shows and attractions are happening.

As far as "writing their Congressman," filing a lawsuit is over the top, don't you think? I have learned that if you write a letter to a company because you are disappointed with their product, service, etc, if you tell them "I will not buy another Dell computer ever again!" your letter will just get circular filed. But if you provide some history of the problem, tell the truth, and basically ask, "what are you going to do about this?" you will probably get a response to your satisfaction.

[Yeti Chaser]

Those people are ridiculous. I've been to MVMCP twice (with tickets), and I was under the impression that although there were signs that said, "Magic Kingdom will close at 6 pm tonight," the guests that did not have tickets were "encouraged" to leave at 6 pm.I have also been to the afterhours parties. As stated, the only thing the "uninvited" guests can partake in is the fireworks and parade. My question to them is why bother staying? You can't go on the attractions or take part in the other festivities that require a wrist band. Disney just can't "throw out" the other guests, that would make great press with the local rag sheet called the Orlando Sentinel. If the guests do not care to take notice of the signage (why should they? Some of these same guests probably do not obey speed limit or stop signs either), that is their problem.

As far as "writing their Congressman," filing a lawsuit is over the top, don't you think? I have learned that if you write a letter to a company because you are disappointed with their product, service, etc, if you tell them "I will not buy another Dell computer ever again!" your letter will just get circular filed. But if you provide some history of the problem, tell the truth, and basically ask, "what are you going to do about this?" you will probably get a response to your satisfaction.Remember: "You attract more flies with honey than you do with vinegar"

[BRWombat]

Remember: "You attract more flies with honey than you do with vinegar"I've always been a little confused about that saying. Why is it exactly that anyone would want to attract flies? :)

[Yeti Chaser]

I've always been a little confused about that saying. Why is it exactly that anyone would want to attract flies? :)

Yoy got me there. :rolleyes: May be someone who has watched Bugs Life one too many times and wants to start a fly circus? :sleepy: Anyway, I thought the quote was appropiate (If the shoe fits wear it) :D: :D: :D:

[Notatourist]

You know, Universal doesn't have this problem. To enter the "Stay and Scream" area you have to have a ticket. If you don't, there's the gate, have a great evening...

They don't let the MASSES in until the park is cleared.

Unreal.

[mechurchlady]

I would not sue. I was at WDW during that Christian event and could not get out of the parking lot. They was coming in as people were leaving. My brand new rental car got a ding because a "Christian" event goer took his fist to the car when I yelled at his girl friend who jumped in front of my car. She was faster than the dudes on skid row at night and uglier.

The problem they are addressing is that you have two crowds going in opposite directions and a probable nightmare with traffic. I did a Fourth of July nightmare at SeaWorld and it took me 3 hours to get onto the freeway and 10 miles of looping through San Diego County lost.

Attract lots of flies to feed Kermit at the Muppet Show in DCA.
Attract lots of flies to feed animals in Animal Kingdom.

[leftcoaster]

I have also been to the afterhours parties. As stated, the only thing the "uninvited" guests can partake in is the fireworks and parade. My question to them is why bother staying? You can't go on the attractions or take part in the other festivities that require a wrist band. Disney just can't "throw out" the other guests, that would make great press with the local rag sheet called the Orlando Sentinel. If the guests do not care to take notice of the signage (why should they? Some of these same guests probably do not obey speed limit or stop signs either), that is their problem.The only reason I would stay at an afterhours party without a ticket is to watch or take or photograph the fireworks and/or parade. But, on another night, I would also have paid admission to see everything else. I can't judge the MNSSHP, since I have never attended, but with the MVMCP, the events are timed so that you can either watch the special show(s), watch the parade, find a seat for the fireworks, or ride the rides, buy the MVMCP pin(s), get your picture taken, and get hot chocolate and cookies, etc. You cannot do both, or at least not everything.

Maybe that's Disney's way of getting you to come back.

[Tarzan&jane]

What I find especially pathetic is that some are saying they're going to be Looking out for guests without wristbands and reporting them to the nearest CM", another wants to call the executive offices and count how many people she sees without bands on. WTH? They're going to spend all this money to go there and whine and tattle tale on suspected party crashers? If anyone other then a CM ask me to show my wrist band I'm going to LOL and tell them to get a life. These people need to get a gripe and just go and have fun.

[mechurchlady]

That is rediculous but then I am only the second stupidest guest, lol. You pay lots of money to attend a special event then stand there yelling "no wrist band, arrest that intruder!" If I could only have the chance to go back to DLR and to be able to ride all the rides pain free and fear free like them schmucks.

It is a pain in the rump when you have an event coming in as the day's crowd is leaving but you could be more creative like shout "HAHA me passholder and me got tickets, nyah nyah nyah nyah" splashing sound "help I fell into the Rivers of America and cannot get out". Canoe operator then dumps Dasani caps on head of event attendees.

[felinefan]

I would like to explain the expression "You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar." The honey is a sweet attitude, being nice/polite, etc.. The vinegar is a sour disposition, rudeness or being angry. The flies are what you're trying to get. Anybody here remember flycatching strips? They were strips of paper coated with a sticky substance; any fly that landed on it would get stuck and die=fewer flies in your face. Honey attracts flies, acts like a fly strip. Vinegar drives them away, meaning they'll still bother you. Bottom line, if you are polite when asking guests to leave, you'll get more cooperation than if you ordered them around; give them a leave the park or get arrested attitude, and they'll go berserk. Granted, we have all had people whom we have treated politely, and they still went psycho on us. But people will do what you want more often if you are polite than if you're rude. Clear? :D: ;)