Mean/Rude kids

[Marilou]

I was at WDW 6/29-7/5 and had a ball! We saw a "walking" talking palm tree outside AK while waiting for opening. My kids & lots others ran over to it. I had my kids interact with it/him , they have guest of honor badges so it always makes them feel special when they are greeted by name. I got sooo mad, however when several kids started kicking & punching it/him!! I could not believe my eyes. What in their Psyche or upbringing would make them think this is a good thing to do?????

We had seen "Push" the walking/talking trash can in MK 3 yrs ago, but couldn't find him 2 yrs ago. We found him this yr! We ran to him and I can't believe I am admitting this....we hugged him! He greeted my kids by name (badges again) and we told him we missed him, and he said he missed us too. Took my kids picture with "Push" and then he said "this is fun, where to now?" I said we were heading to Winnie the Pooh, wanna come? He said "sure" So he put on some fun music and followed us all thru Tommorowland. My kids were dancing and we had a small parade of people following us. Push told us he had to stop when we reached Fantasyland and said goodby to us. If any of you know the CM that is "Push" , please tell him that he made the most magical moment in our whole vacation.
Which is why I was so dumbfounded at the cruel behavior of kids that hit "Palm" at AK.

Sorry this was a long post But I had to share my Push story.

[BRWombat]

PUSH is awesome! He spotted my son's birthday badge and serenaded him with "Happy Birthday" in the middle of a shop. It was a high point of an otherwise dreary day. Thanks PUSH!
http://users4.ev1.net/~brwombat/disney2005/Day5pics/DSC02252.JPG

[darph nader]

I'll tell you what,give me a Lifetime Pass to D/L and i'll bring my Kgun 9 News camcorder and record these little angels for Security. Just doing my part to keep the park safe from these little ........ :D:

[David R]

The other day a kid ran to a trashcan and kicked it as hard as he could. The parents laughed and said "that one doesn't talk!" and then turned to me and said "he saw one the other day that talks and moves and now he thinks they all do."

What struck me as odd was the kid's greeting for this potential PUSH. I wonder if he would also be the kind of kid that would kick and punch the palm tree. Or if he indeed kicked the real PUSH.

Often small kids like this one don't quite know right from wrong in unfamiliar situations (and WDW has plenty of those.) It's the parents' job to teach their kids. Laughing at your kid as he or she does something wrong is not good parenting.

[dudspizza]

The other day a kid ran to a trashcan and kicked it as hard as he could. The parents laughed and said "that one doesn't talk!" and then turned to me and said "he saw one the other day that talks and moves and now he thinks they all do."

What struck me as odd was the kid's greeting for this potential PUSH. I wonder if he would also be the kind of kid that would kick and punch the palm tree. Or if he indeed kicked the real PUSH.

Often small kids like this one don't quite know right from wrong in unfamiliar situations (and WDW has plenty of those.) It's the parents' job to teach their kids. Laughing at your kid as he or she does something wrong is not good parenting.

As an elementary school teacher, I get to deal with morons like the laughters every day. They don't think about how their actions are affecting the big picture and when their kids turn out to be morons, just like them, they don't get it.

[lightup]

The other day a kid ran to a trashcan and kicked it as hard as he could. The parents laughed and said "that one doesn't talk!" and then turned to me and said "he saw one the other day that talks and moves and now he thinks they all do."

What struck me as odd was the kid's greeting for this potential PUSH. I wonder if he would also be the kind of kid that would kick and punch the palm tree. Or if he indeed kicked the real PUSH.

Often small kids like this one don't quite know right from wrong in unfamiliar situations (and WDW has plenty of those.) It's the parents' job to teach their kids. Laughing at your kid as he or she does something wrong is not good parenting.

Speaking of "Palm". The other day as i ws entering AK through to the side of the entrance i saw 4 teens surrouning Palm and then 2 moere tried picking him up. Their attempts were futiel seeing how 30 ft away was a sercurity guard. Palm just said " Pheew my coconuts were shaking there for a min"

[David R]

Palm just said " Pheew my coconuts were shaking there for a min"

Absolutely brilliant!

[Sarah Magdalene]

Absolutely brilliant!

Ditto, way to go Palm!

[SWTexasBelle]

When my youngest (Liam) was 2 1/2, we were working in preschool on him using his words when he had a problem - in other words, don't clock the kid who takes your toy! We were at the Splash Mountain play area,and these two brothers were bullying younger kids. Liam went to look at the pressed quarters machine, and a 5 or 6 year old kid came and pushed him down. Liam hauled off and smacked him good. I of course went up and told him we do NOT hit, and made him apologize (not that the parent of the bully made him do the same :rolleyes:) but inside I was happy that he had given that kid a taste of his own medicine.

[DisneyMom]

When my youngest (Liam) was 2 1/2, we were working in preschool on him using his words when he had a problem - in other words, don't clock the kid who takes your toy! We were at the Splash Mountain play area,and these two brothers were bullying younger kids. Liam went to look at the pressed quarters machine, and a 5 or 6 year old kid came and pushed him down. Liam hauled off and smacked him good. I of course went up and told him we do NOT hit, and made him apologize (not that the parent of the bully made him do the same :rolleyes:) but inside I was happy that he had given that kid a taste of his own medicine.

Good Parenting on your part!:)
I got hit HARD on my arm by a 4 year old who had some sort of hyper-excitement at Space Mountain fastpass area Sunday. I said, "Excuse me, that's my arm!"
To Dad's credit, he tried to make youngster apologize.Youngster kept going and ended up getting butt tapped. I felt a little bad he ended up getting spanked, but maybe Dad had enough by that point!

[GaTechGal]

Good Parenting on your part!:)
I got hit HARD on my arm by a 4 year old who had some sort of hyper-excitement at Space Mountain fastpass area Sunday. I said, "Excuse me, that's my arm!"
To Dad's credit, he tried to make youngster apologize.Youngster kept going and ended up getting butt tapped. I felt a little bad he ended up getting spanked, but maybe Dad had enough by that point!

DMom, don't feel too bad. Sometimes it's that tap that gets a kids attention and straightens them back up. If not maybe it clues in Mom and Dad that it's time to head back to the hotel.

[GuestJockey]

Often small kids like this one don't quite know right from wrong in unfamiliar situations (and WDW has plenty of those.) It's the parents' job to teach their kids. Laughing at your kid as he or she does something wrong is not good parenting.

This is the quote of the year, both because it is so brilliant in it's simplicity, and because it's infuriating that it actually has to be said at all.

[SWTexasBelle]

I always say my children spread joy at Walt Disney World - sometimes it's by their sweet behavior, sometimes it's by our leaving when a meltdown is about to occur. For a while, my youngest had a habit of yelling "I want a nap!" as I was wheeling them out of the MK - I felt like I should yell "He's lying! We'll get back to the hotel and he won't sleep at all!". At any rate, it was undoubtly time to call it a day, at least for awhile.
At any rate, I've never understood why you'd keep a toddler who is OBVIOUSLY at the limit of his tiny little endurance in the park, screaming and crying. Um, that's no fun for anyone. Same thing with keep your kids up late in the parks or even worse, Pleasure Island. There are so many fine babysitting services, why not use them and REALLY enjoy yourself. (Not to mention making things better for everyone else.) I feel for the comatose babies and toddlers you see being dragged around after dark. My sister-in-law has a belief that they have to do EVERYTHING together, no matter who is miserable.

[BIG_Dizfan]

When my youngest (Liam) was 2 1/2, we were working in preschool on him using his words when he had a problem - in other words, don't clock the kid who takes your toy! We were at the Splash Mountain play area,and these two brothers were bullying younger kids. Liam went to look at the pressed quarters machine, and a 5 or 6 year old kid came and pushed him down. Liam hauled off and smacked him good. I of course went up and told him we do NOT hit, and made him apologize (not that the parent of the bully made him do the same :rolleyes:) but inside I was happy that he had given that kid a taste of his own medicine.

I have a similar story...when my son was 2, he was playing in one of those backyard bouncy houses (4th of July Party). There was a 7 year old...much larger, causing all of the kids to cry at different times. My son was never one to back away from trouble. At one point, the 7 year old bully went to his mom crying. Another kid came over and said, "Peter hit him in the face". My husband and I gave each other a "Good for him look", but then called Peter over to feign a scolding. We told him it's never OK to hit someone in the face. He very firmly replied, "I DIDN"T hit him in the face". We retorted, "Peter, you did, now stop fibbing!". "I DIDN"T!" "Olivia told us you hit him in the face, and you know hitting is wrong". "I DIDN"T HIT HIM IN THE FACE!!!"..."Peter, enough with the story telling, we know you hit him in the face. Why else is he crying?" "I DIDN"T hit him in the face! I PUNCHED him in the HEAD!" LOL

I guess he told us!

[BIG_Dizfan]

I feel for the comatose babies and toddlers you see being dragged around after dark. My sister-in-law has a belief that they have to do EVERYTHING together, no matter who is miserable.What about everyone taking a NAP together??? I am all for the afternoon siesta. Days at WDW are jam packed. We start very early, and end late. Mid-day naps are a must for the kids... and quite honestly, for the us as well! Makes for a far more enjoyable vacation!!! :D:

[SWTexasBelle]

My girls ( now 18 and 15) would take a nap - but my boys ( 6 and 5) always fall asleep on the way to the hotel, and once in the hotel go nuts. So, for the most part, we just make an early evening of it. If we are going to do something like see the fireworks I'll try a little harder to get them to nap, but our usual routine is to have the babysitter come around 6:30 and my 18year old and I go to the Adventurer's Club. This trip we will take the boys to see "Fantasmic!" but that's going to be their only late night.

[Princess Susi]

What about everyone taking a NAP together???
I am all for the afternoon siesta. Days at WDW are jam packed. We start very early, and end late. Mid-day naps are a must for the kids...and quite honestly, for the us as well! Makes for a far more enjoyable vacation!!!:D:

Heck yeah! We have to take naps, and do not have kids. The Parks tire us out! And we are old...LOL!;)

Naps just make you feel better and rested and ready to go again. I LOVE naps. I take em here at home too, as does Ralphie. It makes the day go by more smoothly if you are rested and a little half hour nap is a great refresher. Besides lying down is GREAT for my back. It can only help if I rest my legs and back.
sues

[hobie16]

"I DIDN"T hit him in the face! I PUNCHED him in the HEAD!"
:thumbsup:

[Whazzup]

We tried taking a nap once mid-day at All Star Music. First the maid came to clean the room (we forgot to put out the do not disturb sign). Fell back asleep just long enough to get into dream mode and the phone rang. It was my son, who was driving up from a meeting in Tampa and was going to meet us for dinner later. We gave up on our naps and went back to the park feeling groggy. I don't think we've napped at WDW since then.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

we found that the easy way is to go hang out at the pool for a few hours!

The adults can re-energise, and the kids can burn some energy, if you want to go back to the parks, just get them going on any surgar treat!!






hehehehehe

[Moonliner]

Since this thread was resurrected, I'd like to clarify an item in a previous post.

The talking palm tree at Animal Kingdom is named Wes. Wes Palm. If you don't understand look at a map of Florida's east coast. If you call him by name he gets excited. But don't be afraid because he is all bark and no bite.:p:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Since this thread was resurrected, I'd like to clarify an item in a previous post.

The talking palm tree at Animal Kingdom is named Wes. Wes Palm. If you don't understand look at a map of Florida's east coast. If you call him by name he gets excited. But don't be afraid because he is all bark and no bite.:p:

Cute! Is he there all the time, or certain hours? we have never seen him, nor the trash can, but keep hearing about them!

[SWTexasBelle]

Push is the best! He wished Liam a happy birthday, and asked him how old he was. His answer sounded like "Forty" instead of "Four", so Push had some fun with that, and then had everyone sing to Liam. Best memory from his b-day.

[Shorty82]

Cute! Is he there all the time, or certain hours? we have never seen him, nor the trash can, but keep hearing about them!

I remember seeing Wes Palm shortly after park opening a few times entertaining the incoming crowds. I've never interacted with him though.

Push is around Tomorrowland occasionally. Back in July he and my little cousin interacted some. My cousin was wearing yellow Crocs and Push said she was wearing bananas on her feet.

Back in 2001 I saw Push and he called me "Stretch" because of how tall I am.

Both Wes and Push are fun.

One thing, I'm not sure how looking at a map of the east coast helps explain his name unless it is a play on West Palm beach.

[Whazzup]

I remember seeing Wes Palm shortly after park opening a few times entertaining the incoming crowds. I've never interacted with him though.

Push is around Tomorrowland occasionally. Back in July he and my little cousin interacted some. My cousin was wearing yellow Crocs and Push said she was wearing bananas on her feet.

Back in 2001 I saw Push and he called me "Stretch" because of how tall I am.

Both Wes and Push are fun.

One thing, I'm not sure how looking at a map of the east coast helps explain his name unless it is a play on West Palm Beach.

That's exactly it, Shorty. Wes Palm!

[mechurchlady]

http://picasaweb.google.com/Rondadams/MagicalSurprises/photo#4987092206203240466

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I remember seeing Wes Palm shortly after park opening a few times entertaining the incoming crowds. I've never interacted with him though.

Push is around Tomorrowland occasionally. Back in July he and my little cousin interacted some. My cousin was wearing yellow Crocs and Push said she was wearing bananas on her feet.

Back in 2001 I saw Push and he called me "Stretch" because of how tall I am.

Both Wes and Push are fun.

One thing, I'm not sure how looking at a map of the east coast helps explain his name unless it is a play on West Palm beach.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for them! (I know, use sunscreen!)

Do they have them at DLR?

[Shorty82]

I'll keep my eyes peeled for them! (I know, use sunscreen!)

Do they have them at DLR?

I don't know. I'll see if I can find out though.

Edit: Looks like DL has Push. He's around Tomorrowland.

We all forgot about Pipa, Push's recycling cousin that hangs out around Conservation Station.

[Ms. Matterhorn]

Edit: Looks like DL has Push. He's around Tomorrowland.


DH and I saw push at DCA in back of Grizzly River Rapids last fall.

[Driver_dylan]

Speaking of keeping your kids under controle, My sister an I were once walking through DHS back when it was MGM. we were walking past TOT on our way to ST but we happened to go by GMR (getting alphabet fried yet:bugeyes::break::drool:) At about this point my niece (about 4 at the time) started to act up that she wanted to go on a ride. So my family and I changed plans and decided to take her on GMR (not the best choice, but hey.) As we waited in the line, Rachel became increeseingly adigetated from not being able to walk around. (she is normally very paitent for her age and will wait as long as she knows what she is in line for) Although we tried to explain whaqt we were doing the argument ended with "Rachel be quiet and wait, you will enjoy it." She continued to push her mothers buttons and my sister finally gave her a single swift swat on her butt.
Rachel immedatly quieted down and we got on the ride. All went well and she had fun and was in fact laughing as we exited when we were called over by security. It seemed that a guest had seen my sisters actions and ran off to tell security that my sister was beating her child. To securities credit they were very nice about the whole thing and after asking Rachel what happened, (she told them all about her first two hours in the park and how much fun she was having, but glanced over the part about what happened in the line) they applogised for stopping us and let us go.
Although I have never seen my sister get that red from embarrisment before, we later were able to laugh it off and get on with our day. Yet I know that I had to wonder about what that guest was thinking was going on :confused:. I mean we were in a group of eight. (Me and Steph, both CM's; My mother and father; My sister; her boyfriend; Rachel; My sisters friend; and her 1 & 1/2 year old.) Technically nine, but still?

[DisneyMom]

Yeah, this "you can't spank your kid" thing is too much! I did swat my kids a few times usually something for their safety. One time my younger son informed me that if I spanked him, he would call the police!:eek: I told him fine, I would give him to the police to keep from me!:twisted:he never said it again.
I'm not saying to it's ok to BEAT the kids, so don't misinterpret!

[Tiny Tim]

My three boys( 9,8,7) are adopted( 2 now and the last in the next 3 months)and dcf preaches dont hit. The last boy had a problem till we got his meds right. Our genuis caseworker told us if he acts up to baker act him. One time it got to that point and we called and the cop that was sent asked if we tried spanking him. We explaned about dealing with dcf and following what they said he laughed and said "that spanking is ok and that if it was done to an extreme then we would have problems. Also dcf will not arrest you no matter what they think but we will" So i dont beat them( and never will) but a well placed smack once in a while. The oldest tried that i going to call the cops routine on me and i just picked up the phone handed it to him gave him the number and he chickened out real fast. I dont expect them to be perfect all the time but i do expect them not to be out of control like some are.

[Shorty82]

Proper spanking is good for a kid. It teaches them to not do whatever it was they did. I was spanked growing up and feel I am a better person for it. Grounding the child might work for some kids but not for others, spanking works pretty well all around.

You beat a child and I'll have a problem, spanking a misbehaving child is a different thing. I've spanked my little cousin when she's done something wrong and she learned not to do that thing again. I'd tell her she had three seconds to straighten up or I'd spank her. After slowly and loudly counting down from three if she was still doing it I'd spank her. It didn't take her long to learn to straighten up fast if I started counting down.

I plan on spanking any kid I eventually have when they misbehave. Not to hard or long but enough to teach them not to do the wrong thing again.

[felinefan]

We were spanked too (I have siblings), and none of us got a complex over it. There were times when Dad would go overboard on the yelling--once he told us to be mean to one of my younger sisters when we were eating in a restaurant because she left 3 french fries on her plate.:eek: I mean, I know both my parents came from poverty-stricken, large families during the Depression, and doubtless they were raised with the admonition not to waste food, but come on!

Kids today are such manipulative actors. They do things to try and wheedle stuff out of adults and get their own way, and when they get caught and punished, they aren't sorry for what they did, they're just sorry they were caught. Parents are no better; they don't lay down the law with their kids, and just let them run all over them. Then they wonder why their kids are always in trouble, and in order to keep from looking like "bad parents", they scream that they're being 'picked on".

And teachers and principals can't do anything either. In my day, if you got sent to the principal's office, that was a reason to be afraid. The teacher or the principal had carte blanche to paddle you if you did wrong. Now if a teacher or school official looks at a kid the wrong way they get in trouble.
I swear somebody is out there trying to destroy this country, and they're doing it by tearing down parental and other authority in schools and society.

[hobie16]

Kids today are such manipulative actors.
Yup. I told my daughter she wasn't going somewhere. She responded with,"Do you thing I'm going to get drunk, do drugs, join a gang, get pregnant, rob a store?"

I replied, "I hadn't, but now that you bring it up, yes."

End of conversation.

[Christine43]

I told my daughter she wasn't going somewhere. She responded with,"Do you thing I'm going to get drunk, do drugs, join a gang, get pregnant, rob a store?"

I replied, "I hadn't, but now that you bring it up, yes."That sounds like a quote from my 16 yr. old daughter. Now, she's a great kid but I still keep her on an appropriate leash and I believe that's why she IS a great kid. I keep communication open and we can discuss anything but some things are simply not negotiable.

[Moonliner]

What's worse is parents who count to three, giving their kids a) free time to continue doing the mischief, or b) time to get away from the parent. I taught my kids early that when I started to count, it would be the number of times they would get swat. And it would not stop at three. Very rarely would it get past "I'm going to count." And almost never past "One."

When my oldest was 6 we were on our way out of a mall when she began to act up. I grabbed her little hand tightly to lead her out of the store. She decided to do the 'go limp' routine and collapsed to the floor. Now I'm 6' 3", and she was about 4'. My arm is about 3' long and hers is 2'. That leaves a 12 inch difference, resulting in the dislocation of her shoulder. She cried "Daddy, you broke my arm!" and we went straight to the ER. I kept glancing over my shoulder, and waiting for the questioning at the hospital, but it never came. I was a lot more careful after that, and she never refused a request to follow me.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

What's worse is parents who count to three, giving their kids a) free time to continue doing the mischief, or b) time to get away from the parent. I taught my kids early that when I started to count, it would be the number of times they would get swat. And it would not stop at three. Very rarely would it get past "I'm going to count." And almost never past "One."

When my oldest was 6 we were on our way out of a mall when she began to act up. I grabbed her little hand tightly to lead her out of the store. She decided to do the 'go limp' routine and collapsed to the floor. Now I'm 6' 3", and she was about 4'. My arm is about 3' long and hers is 2'. That leaves a 12 inch difference, resulting in the dislocation of her shoulder. She cried "Daddy, you broke my arm!" and we went straight to the ER. I kept glancing over my shoulder, and waiting for the questioning at the hospital, but it never came. I was a lot more careful after that, and she never refused a request to follow me.

It must have been just a slight sprain!!!

A good lesson in the dangers of going limp!!

[SWTexasBelle]

I count to three - but rarely, RARELY, get past one. One is - get here now. Two is - you are getting a spanking. Three - you are getting a spanking and your life will not be worth living.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I count to three - but rarely, RARELY, get past one. One is - get here now. Two is - you are getting a spanking. Three - you are getting a spanking and your life will not be worth living.

Too bad they can come up with a scaled down version of the stun gun, for use on kids only, like the dog collars for roudy pups! hehehe EAT your veggies. ZAP ZAP !!!!

(hehehheheheheheheeee!)

[SWTexasBelle]

My brother has long said that our fortunes would be made with the "Toddler Tazer" - his tag line? Cause they're all cute when they're asleep.

[EeyoresButterfly]

I personally am against spanking, I feel that there are better ways to discipline children, although I understand why people do it. I was never spanked, and my parents never had to hit me to get my attention. My friends who were spanked frequently tell me that it taught them to not get caught, or to even fear their parents, it rarely resulted in stopping their behavior. There are some great discipline methods out there that are far more effective, even though they may take more work. My favorite that I've heard is one that my grandmother did. Now, my grandmother was a widow with three boy who was a drill instructor for the army and then worked for the OSS and CIA. Apparently my father got into the habit of calling his brothers liars and she had him write, "I shall strike the nomenclature prevaricator from my vocabulary" 100 times. She told him that he had to tell her what it meant, and if he didn't know, he had to look up the words. Not only does he still remember it to this day, he said that he never engaged in that behavior again!

[SWTexasBelle]

Yeah, I was always anti-spanking, until child #4. It's hard to have a two year old write 100 sentences . . . and all my other brilliant parenting tricks? Nope. Luckily, in addition to being a very challenging child, he's a very sweet, loving one. But I do think God has a sense of humor . . . waiting until the fourth one (!)

[felinefan]

How about giving kids and parents special lanyards as they enter the gate....which in reality are Taser devices. If a CM catches the SGs breaking a rule or being obnoxious/threatening, after reasonong has failed, the CM secretly presses a hidden button on their costume and ZAP!!!! They're down for the count! During which they will be taken out of the park and not allowed back in! Don't forget to take back the special lanyards!:twisted::D:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Well, I have seen a lot of the "no spanking" theory, the joke is that you don't know its effective until its too late.

A smack to the rear and a stern NO corrects the problem post haste, its a quick and sure correction. the NO tells them they did something wrong, and the smack to the behind, where they were provided extra padding for just that occasion, helps them remember it quickly. It also lets them know that there ARE boundries that they should not cross. The beauty is that you only have to do it once or twice when they are small, the memory of the stern NO will then take its place.

AS I have stated before, I have been successful in raising several kids, who are by no means meek and mild!

The other ones ...well, a certain number of them never are corrected, or grow up to believe that they can do anything that they want, and they, of course, become the SG's that we so despise.

The other, more hard core self centered ones, become the reason why we have to make and unbelieveable amount of laws, and employ police forces.

But I guess security forces and law enforcement need job security!!

[Randy B]

How about giving kids and parents special lanyards as they enter the gate....which in reality are Taser devices. If a CM catches the SGs breaking a rule or being obnoxious/threatening, after reasonong has failed, the CM secretly presses a hidden button on their costume and ZAP!!!! They're down for the count! During which they will be taken out of the park and not allowed back in! Don't forget to take back the special lanyards!:twisted::D:

wouldn't it be easier to just issue trank guns? Maybe a spring loaded tube up the sleeve (zip gun) with a nice fast acting trank dart.

See SG.

See SG be BAD.

See CM raise arm.

See CM press hidden trigger.

See SG fall asleep. Sleep SG, sleep.

See sleeping SG carried to a tramp steamer headed, nonstop for northern Iceland. Goodbye, SG, goodbye.

:twisted::D:

Randy

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

wouldn't it be easier to just issue trank guns? Maybe a spring loaded tube up the sleeve (zip gun) with a nice fast acting trank dart.

See SG.

See SG be BAD.

See CM raise arm.

See CM press hidden trigger.

See SG fall asleep. Sleep SG, sleep.

See sleeping SG carried to a tramp steamer headed, nonstop for northern Iceland. Goodbye, SG, goodbye.

:twisted::D:

Randy

Hmmm, there IS some merit to that!!

But why not put them to work scrubbing the drinking fountains!!! or make them work in a new booth inside each park, Labeled "Unlimited complaint department"

[Randy B]

Hmmm, there IS some merit to that!!

But why not put them to work scrubbing the drinking fountains!!! or make them work in a new booth inside each park, Labeled "Unlimited complaint department"

Because their poor behavior would still have a chance to spread to other guests. Extreme SG behavior is like a virus that can infect non-SGs or borderline-SG guests. So such behavior needs to be quarantined. Maybe a nice "Mousetanimo Bay" facility.

But for the more mild forms of the disease your suggestions may help to remove the virus from the system without a full quarantine. Of course there will be the few "inadvertant" or just "DOH" type of SGT that should be delt with by a simple point and laugh. It's amazing how strong an innoculation a good "being laughed at" can be.

Randy

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Because their poor behavior would still have a chance to spread to other guests. Extreme SG behavior is like a virus that can infect non-SGs or borderline-SG guests. So such behavior needs to be quarantined. Maybe a nice "Mousetanimo Bay" facility.

But for the more mild forms of the disease your suggestions may help to remove the virus from the system without a full quarantine. Of course there will be the few "inadvertant" or just "DOH" type of SGT that should be delt with by a simple point and laugh. It's amazing how strong an innoculation a good "being laughed at" can be.

Randy

That, or ship them to "discovery Island" (the "original" it could be the new botany bay!!)

[mechurchlady]

That, or ship them to "discovery Island" (the "original" it could be the new botany bay!!)

It it weren't for the high water table they could build a massive underground facility. Instead a Luxury resort on Discovery Island. Congratulations SG you have one a two night stay at the Grand Discovery Resort. SLAM, zap, snoring sounds and the deprogramming of the SG begins. I got it all set up.

They are served a meal.

Guest: WAITRESS why are my eggs runny.
CM: Sir those are 3-minute eggs just as you ordered them.
Guest: I WANT A MANAGER NOW!!!
Handler/Manager: Sir you know better than to yell.
Guest: MY DAMNED EGGS ARE RUNNY

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAP

Guest: WTF
Handler/Manager: I am sorry but rude behavior ends in a shock. You will learn more in class which is in 15 minutes so eat your breakfast, sir.
Guest: NO

ZZZZZZZAAP

I want taht job, lol.

[felinefan]

Where do I sign up?:twisted::D:

[Big Wallaby]

The other, more hard core self centered ones, become the reason why we have to make and unbelieveable amount of laws, and employ police forces.

I would love to found a city, state, or country where you didn't need laws or courts, because people just understand the difference between right and wrong. I mean, seriously... those of you here, is it really the laws and rules that keep you from, say, stealing something every time you go into a store? No, it's the fact that you know it's... say it with me now, "Wrong."

I think they tried that once, back in the late 18th century, where they started this country on the idea that man has a right to govern himself, and it worked for a while. But then, those with the SG tendencies started showing their true colors. Sad that such a minority of people can ruin it for the rest of us that would rather enjoy the freedom, not do anything to hurt another person, govern ourselves and live our lives. But for some, that is too much to ask.

[BRWombat]

I would love to found a city, state, or country where you didn't need laws or courts, because people just understand the difference between right and wrong. I mean, seriously... those of you here, is it really the laws and rules that keep you from, say, stealing something every time you go into a store? No, it's the fact that you know it's... say it with me now, "Wrong."

I think they tried that once, back in the late 18th century, where they started this country on the idea that man has a right to govern himself, and it worked for a while. But then, those with the SG tendencies started showing their true colors. Sad that such a minority of people can ruin it for the rest of us that would rather enjoy the freedom, not do anything to hurt another person, govern ourselves and live our lives. But for some, that is too much to ask.Amen to the first paragraph. But interestingly, as to the second, I am reading a biography of John Adams now, and it struck me how much our system of government was set up with checks and balances precisely because they knew no one can be trusted with unbridled power. True, the founders did state that an underlying accepted moral order was required for a truly free society, but they also recognized mankind's sinful nature and built in ways to keep its impact on governance from getting out of hand.

Now, I could go off into how I think our government has strayed far from that and basically has unchecked power now, but I don't want to aggravate myself too early in the morning... :rolleyes:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I would love to found a city, state, or country where you didn't need laws or courts, because people just understand the difference between right and wrong. I mean, seriously... those of you here, is it really the laws and rules that keep you from, say, stealing something every time you go into a store? No, it's the fact that you know it's... say it with me now, "Wrong."

I think they tried that once, back in the late 18th century, where they started this country on the idea that man has a right to govern himself, and it worked for a while. But then, those with the SG tendencies started showing their true colors. Sad that such a minority of people can ruin it for the rest of us that would rather enjoy the freedom, not do anything to hurt another person, govern ourselves and live our lives. But for some, that is too much to ask.

I think you may have come upon the answer as to why there are SG's....The migrated from England and europe before we could stop them!! and have infected the population!!

We got to stop them!!! I know, first lets build a wall around New York....
and put the SG's there, then they couldn't escape from New York...

Wait.. that sounds similar to a movie I saw....




Wheres Snake Pliskin when we need him???

[DisneyMom]

I think you may have come upon the answer as to why there are SG's....The migrated from England and europe before we could stop them!! and have infected the population!!

We got to stop them!!! I know, first lets build a wall around New York....
and put the SG's there, then they couldn't escape from New York...

Wait.. that sounds similar to a movie I saw....




Wheres Snake Pliskin when we need him???

HAHA, what about Escape From LA? Where all the inmates were congregated
on the Main Street of a well-known theme park!:p:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

HAHA, what about Escape From LA? Where all the inmates were congregated
on the Main Street of a well-known theme park!:p:

That one too!, except it does show that the SG's won! (Isn't that the real agenda with them, they want to destroy and/or possess the park (Judy Tenuta?)

[DisneyMom]

That one too!, except it does show that the SG's won! (Isn't that the real agenda with them, they want to destroy and/or possess the park (Judy Tenuta?)


Aaaaargh! I don't remember a lot of it, will have to ask hubby when he comes home! (the big stud-muffin!):D:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Aaaaargh! I don't remember a lot of it, will have to ask hubby when he comes home! (the big stud-muffin!):D:

IF I remember right, and its been a long time since I have seen the film, they didn't really come out and say Disneyland. They did show the Shark from the universal tour, but I really don't think that the depiction of the "park" looked like Disney (perhaps some legal opinions were offerred by Disney?)

[DisneyMom]

IF I remember right, and its been a long time since I have seen the film, they didn't really come out and say Disneyland. They did show the Shark from the universal tour, but I really don't think that the depiction of the "park" looked like Disney (perhaps some legal opinions were offerred by Disney?)

Well, it was definitely NOT accurate, but seemed very familiar! Anyone got a picture? Susi? Hobie?.......Bueller?;)

[ejud]

That one too!, except it does show that the SG's won! (Isn't that the real agenda with them, they want to destroy and/or possess the park (Judy Tenuta?)

Arggggggggg! This reminds me of an old picture story in MAD magazine, about the Cold War, Krushev vs Kennedy and in the last panel, one of his minions advises the Premier, "We have won!" to which Krushev relpies, "Then we did it? We have taken DisenyLand?"

Nyuk nyuk nyuk...

:)

Jud
http://iJud.blogspot.com

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Arggggggggg! This reminds me of an old picture story in MAD magazine, about the Cold War, Krushev vs Kennedy and in the last panel, one of his minions advises the Premier, "We have won!" to which Krushev relpies, "Then we did it? We have taken DisenyLand?"

Nyuk nyuk nyuk...

:)

Jud
http://iJud.blogspot.com

Are you old enough to know the signaficance of that?

The visit to Disneyland?

[felinefan]

Throughout the history of this country, especially during the 1800s, there were many efforts by groups of people to found Utopian societies; most of them were based on kinkiness in general. They all failed. Most famous of these was the Oneida Colony, which after espousing free love, no marriage, etc., found they were better off making fine china. Yep, that's the story behind Oneida silverware, glassware and chinaware! I think they make better dishes than sexual revolutionaries. ;)

[GaTechGal]

Are you old enough to know the signaficance of that?

The visit to Disneyland?
But I thought Kruchev didn't get to go because they weren't willing to guarentee his safety. Which is what pissed him off and caused the shoe pounding incident at the UN.

[ejud]

But I thought Kruchev didn't get to go because they weren't willing to guarentee his safety. Which is what pissed him off and caused the shoe pounding incident at the UN.

Hi GaTechGal,

Hehehehee... actually he did go- though he was purposely delayed a bit while the CIA rigged a toilet to catch his poop so they could analyze it... really! LOLOL!!! Your tax dollars at work!

:)

Jud

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

But I thought Kruchev didn't get to go because they weren't willing to guarentee his safety. Which is what pissed him off and caused the shoe pounding incident at the UN.

Ahhhh Modern edumacation!

[GaTechGal]

Ahhhh Modern edumacation!

Go Jackets! :D:

[disneyprincess1988]

Ug, have my own rude kid story. I went to Epcot after work to watch the World Showcase Players (one of my absolute favorite acts in the whole park). I was sitting on the curb in the U.K. pavilion watching them perform their preshow when these two brats decided to stand right in front of me, completely blocking my view. :mad:

[felinefan]

Did you try yelling, "Down in front!" or "Excuse me, I'm trying to watch the show, and you're blocking my line of sight"? Of course, there's stupid kids who think that that's actually funny....:mad:

[hobie16]

I was sitting on the curb in the U.K. pavilion watching them perform their preshow when these two brats decided to stand right in front of me, completely blocking my view.
Get one of these to prod them along.
http://taser.com/SiteCollectionImages/Product/Military%20Product%20Banner/x26military.jpg
Add a Taser Cam that'll record 1.5 hours of video so you can share the fun with your friends.
http://taser.com/SiteCollectionImages/Product/LE%20Product%20Banner/tasercam_02.jpg

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Get one of these to prod them along.
http://taser.com/SiteCollectionImages/Product/Military%20Product%20Banner/x26military.jpg
Add a Taser Cam that'll record 1.5 hours of video so you can share the fun with your friends.
http://taser.com/SiteCollectionImages/Product/LE%20Product%20Banner/tasercam_02.jpg

Disney should rent them out for those of us on the SGT!!!!

We could post the results on Youtube...or here!!!

could make for some fun viewing!!

Cutting in line...no problem...ZAP

Magic ruined because of rain? Demanding something for free? no problem...ZAP

Complaining about a CM because he /she made you follow the rules? no problem....ZAP ZAP (extra one for fun!!)

[disneyprincess1988]

Oh believe me, if I had that taser I would've used it on both kids as well as the little twats who thought it was funny to set off all the Pal Mickeys in the store at once on Easter.

[hobie16]

... well as the little twats who thought it was funny to set off all the Pal Mickeys in the store at once on Easter.
Ain't miniaturized electronics great?

[StephM]

Yeah, I was always anti-spanking, until child #4. It's hard to have a two year old write 100 sentences . . . and all my other brilliant parenting tricks? Nope. Luckily, in addition to being a very challenging child, he's a very sweet, loving one. But I do think God has a sense of humor . . . waiting until the fourth one (!)

OMG I could have written this word for word. I have swatted kids #1-#3, probably all put together, 4 times?? And 2 of those times were dangerous....one DD was reaching for the hot burner on the stove and had her hand slapped, and the other, DS unbuckled himself while we were on the thruway.

My 3 yr old is another story. We have tried everything we can think of with him and nothing works. He is just unreal.

He is also the most loving of all 4, he is all sweetness 60% of the time, and a demon the other 40. I think it is self-preservation. :D:

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

OMG I could have written this word for word. I have swatted kids #1-#3, probably all put together, 4 times?? And 2 of those times were dangerous....one DD was reaching for the hot burner on the stove and had her hand slapped, and the other, DS unbuckled himself while we were on the thruway.

My 3 yr old is another story. We have tried everything we can think of with him and nothing works. He is just unreal.

He is also the most loving of all 4, he is all sweetness 60% of the time, and a demon the other 40. I think it is self-preservation. :D:

Well, you could always use the water squirt bottle, like we use on the grumpy pups, it gets their attention and they don't like it!!

[SWTexasBelle]

Okay, StephM - you are obviously my long lost sister. Why, you ask? I checked out your blog and YES it is THE PEOPLE MOVER. Also, I have 2 boys (5 and 6) and 2 girls (15 and 18 - 15 yr. old lives with her dad) AND I will be at WDW May 2 - 8th. I'm just sayin' . . . :D:

[Zazu]

Well, you could always use the water squirt bottle, like we use on the grumpy pups, it gets their attention and they don't like it!!We call this device the "Catomizer" as we use it on our cats, generally with excellent results.

We had one cat that was too stubborn, and the first bottle-full was emptied in about a week. On the second bottle, every time we sprayed it down an inch I topped it off with white vinegar. Took about 1/4 bottle, but it finally got yucky enough to get through to him.

Of course, I never again dared leave my shoes on the floor....

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

We call this device the "Catomizer" as we use it on our cats, generally with excellent results.

We had one cat that was too stubborn, and the first bottle-full was emptied in about a week. On the second bottle, every time we sprayed it down an inch I topped it off with white vinegar. Took about 1/4 bottle, but it finally got yucky enough to get through to him.

Of course, I never again dared leave my shoes on the floor....

Yeah, I know what you mean, the pups just stop doing what they were doing, the kitties plot revenge!

[Whazzup]

Yeah, I know what you mean, the pups just stop doing what they were doing, the kitties plot revenge!

And the horsies get even! ;)